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Low Coach Voltage

When I plug my coach to my storage power I am only getting 97v when I check wall plug voltage in the coach.  The reading at the wall outlet is 120.  only thing running is the residential refer which is new...have had this problem for quite a while.  When I am on the road at a park there is no issue.  Any ideas??
John and Stacey Smith
Motorcade NO: 11973
1997 U295 CSGI 40'..Build No. 5036     
920 Watts on the roof..CAT Power w/fuel Inj. Programmer
2021 GMC Sierra AT4 1500
EX..2015 Jeep Wrangler Sahara
Ex 1990 U280 RSAI 36'..Build No. 3638

Re: Low Coach Voltage

Reply #1
Have you checked the voltage at the storage site box?
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
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Re: Low Coach Voltage

Reply #2
120v and only thing running on on the inside is refer.
John and Stacey Smith
Motorcade NO: 11973
1997 U295 CSGI 40'..Build No. 5036     
920 Watts on the roof..CAT Power w/fuel Inj. Programmer
2021 GMC Sierra AT4 1500
EX..2015 Jeep Wrangler Sahara
Ex 1990 U280 RSAI 36'..Build No. 3638

Re: Low Coach Voltage

Reply #3
Are you using an extension cord and if so how long and what gauge wire?
Greg & Nettie
1998 U320 40Ft Limited Edition
Build #5382
2014 Ford Cmax toad
Escapee #122299

Re: Low Coach Voltage

Reply #4
Put a splitter or "octopus" at the outlet and check voltage while you are plugged in. If still 120 volts you have a real mystery. Make sure the refrigerator is cycling when checking. Unless you are using a small gauge ext.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

Re: Low Coach Voltage

Reply #5
Thanks, will go to storage in a bit and give it a try
John and Stacey Smith
Motorcade NO: 11973
1997 U295 CSGI 40'..Build No. 5036     
920 Watts on the roof..CAT Power w/fuel Inj. Programmer
2021 GMC Sierra AT4 1500
EX..2015 Jeep Wrangler Sahara
Ex 1990 U280 RSAI 36'..Build No. 3638

Re: Low Coach Voltage

Reply #6
When I plug my coach to my storage power I am only getting 97v when I check wall plug voltage in the coach.  The reading at the wall outlet is 120.  only thing running is the residential refer which is new...have had this problem for quite a while.
This post is confusing, to say the least. You're saying 97v @ the "wall plug" and 120v @ "the  wall outlet"?  Where & what is "the wall plug"?  Has this been happening since the reefer was installed?
1993 U-240 "La Villa Grande"..CAT 3116 w/ Pacbrake PRXB...Allison 3060 6-speed..
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Re: Low Coach Voltage

Reply #7
120v at the outlet outside the coach, 97v at the wall plug inside the coach...analog meter is in the 80's
This has been going on quite a while. 
John and Stacey Smith
Motorcade NO: 11973
1997 U295 CSGI 40'..Build No. 5036     
920 Watts on the roof..CAT Power w/fuel Inj. Programmer
2021 GMC Sierra AT4 1500
EX..2015 Jeep Wrangler Sahara
Ex 1990 U280 RSAI 36'..Build No. 3638

Re: Low Coach Voltage

Reply #8
120v at the outlet outside the coach, 97v at the wall plug inside the coach...analog meter is in the 80's
This has been going on quite a while.  Before new refer.

John and Stacey Smith
Motorcade NO: 11973
1997 U295 CSGI 40'..Build No. 5036     
920 Watts on the roof..CAT Power w/fuel Inj. Programmer
2021 GMC Sierra AT4 1500
EX..2015 Jeep Wrangler Sahara
Ex 1990 U280 RSAI 36'..Build No. 3638

Re: Low Coach Voltage

Reply #9
I would be looking at my schematic to see what else is connected to that circuit, and if any "add-ons" have been done. Ground-fault-indicators (GFI) generally work or trip, period. When you travel & hook-up, are you on 50 amps, and, in storage, is it 30 amps? Wiring lag (without tripping the breaker) is my thought, at this time.
1993 U-240 "La Villa Grande"..CAT 3116 w/ Pacbrake PRXB...Allison 3060 6-speed..
Previous: 1983 Airstream 310 turbo diesel, 1979 Airstream 280 turbo diesel
                                      Build # 4297
                                      PNW natives
                      Home base:  'Cactus Hug' (Ajo, Arizona)
                        DW Judy & Chet the wonder dog
                        Full-Timers 'Sailing the asphalt sea'

Re: Low Coach Voltage

Reply #10
I just picked up a 2' 12 gauge ext cord w/ 3 outlets.

1) I am getting 120v with out coach plugged in.

2) I am using 50 amp shoreline with 30amp adapter

3) As soon as I plug in coach now 104 inside and at 3 outlet 2' ext cord.

4) Cords seemed a little warm.

5) Turned off Main switch at step(entrance). refer still running no change.

Thanks ,
John
John and Stacey Smith
Motorcade NO: 11973
1997 U295 CSGI 40'..Build No. 5036     
920 Watts on the roof..CAT Power w/fuel Inj. Programmer
2021 GMC Sierra AT4 1500
EX..2015 Jeep Wrangler Sahara
Ex 1990 U280 RSAI 36'..Build No. 3638

Re: Low Coach Voltage

Reply #11
Definitely not 50 amp.....I believe 25 amp
John and Stacey Smith
Motorcade NO: 11973
1997 U295 CSGI 40'..Build No. 5036     
920 Watts on the roof..CAT Power w/fuel Inj. Programmer
2021 GMC Sierra AT4 1500
EX..2015 Jeep Wrangler Sahara
Ex 1990 U280 RSAI 36'..Build No. 3638

Re: Low Coach Voltage

Reply #12
Your 50A cord from the coach plugs into a 50A to 30A adapter, and then that plugs into a 30A to 20A adapter to plug into a regular wall outlet. Is that correct? If that's the case you should be fine. If you are using an extension cord from the 30-20A adapter to the outlet that may be part of your problem.

Is there any way that you can plug into a regular 50A or 30A outlet at your storage site?

Re: Low Coach Voltage

Reply #13
No 50 or 30....The cords are as you described
No extension cord
I am using the 2' 12 gauge from the outlet to the 50 amp shoreline
If I take the stubby cord out of the equation it makes no difference
John and Stacey Smith
Motorcade NO: 11973
1997 U295 CSGI 40'..Build No. 5036     
920 Watts on the roof..CAT Power w/fuel Inj. Programmer
2021 GMC Sierra AT4 1500
EX..2015 Jeep Wrangler Sahara
Ex 1990 U280 RSAI 36'..Build No. 3638

Re: Low Coach Voltage

Reply #14
It may be that your 30 amp adapter is not making good contact either at the plug end or at the receptacle end.  Doe the plugs fit snuggly?  If not or the cords are warm a new one might be a good choice.  It you have a cord reel it is possible that the contactors at that end are not working properly.  This is something you should resolve sooner than later.
Roger Engdahl and Susan Green
2001 U320 3610 #5879 (Home2) - 2014 Jeep Cherokee or 2018 F150
Hastings, MN

Re: Low Coach Voltage

Reply #15
Definitely not 50 amp.....I believe 25 amp
Are you checking the amps at the point-of-electrical connection where you're stored?  BTW, unless your coach has changed from ours, the switch at the steps shuts down all lighting, etc., ONLY. I believe it's called a "Salesman Switch". I would be "leery" of plugging a large coach into a 15 amp circuit.
1993 U-240 "La Villa Grande"..CAT 3116 w/ Pacbrake PRXB...Allison 3060 6-speed..
Previous: 1983 Airstream 310 turbo diesel, 1979 Airstream 280 turbo diesel
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                                      PNW natives
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                        DW Judy & Chet the wonder dog
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Re: Low Coach Voltage

Reply #16
Hi Guys,

I wonder if the low side power goes really low with a bigger A/C current draw. If So I might wonder if you have loose connections or burned contacts on the transfer switch or somewhere in your adaptors. Contact surfaces usually can be cleaned unless too badly burned. Just a thought.

Jim
Jim Frerichs
2002 U320 42'

Re: Low Coach Voltage

Reply #17
Will look into that one next
All power cords are new, including shoreline
No problems when I plug into 50 amp, ......Generator shows 120v
John and Stacey Smith
Motorcade NO: 11973
1997 U295 CSGI 40'..Build No. 5036     
920 Watts on the roof..CAT Power w/fuel Inj. Programmer
2021 GMC Sierra AT4 1500
EX..2015 Jeep Wrangler Sahara
Ex 1990 U280 RSAI 36'..Build No. 3638

Re: Low Coach Voltage

Reply #18
You have either an additional load you are not aware of (inverter/charger charging, water heater element, etc) OR

You have a bad connection between the outlet you are plugged into and your outlet in the coach.  I would start by checking the shore power cord carefully for signs of overheating or loose/burned connection.

Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
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Re: Low Coach Voltage

Reply #19
Coach has been at FOT for the past month getting upgrades and many items checked

Water heater may be on..hopefully this is it.
New shoreline and reel was installed at FOT while there. (doubt this is it as this has been going on for a while).
I should be able to check my Tri-Star display and see what kind of amps are being used
John and Stacey Smith
Motorcade NO: 11973
1997 U295 CSGI 40'..Build No. 5036     
920 Watts on the roof..CAT Power w/fuel Inj. Programmer
2021 GMC Sierra AT4 1500
EX..2015 Jeep Wrangler Sahara
Ex 1990 U280 RSAI 36'..Build No. 3638

Re: Low Coach Voltage

Reply #20
If it seems to be ok plugged into a 50 amp outlet but when you add in the 50 - 30 converter and plug into a 30 outlet and the voltage drops, well the converter is a good first place to start.  Bad connections are bad.  They cause voltage loss, heat and other problems including burning up you new 50 amp landline.  Get a new one.
Roger Engdahl and Susan Green
2001 U320 3610 #5879 (Home2) - 2014 Jeep Cherokee or 2018 F150
Hastings, MN

Re: Low Coach Voltage

Reply #21
I am thinking converter too....Just left my kids inheritance at FOT, oh well this is a great coach...she deserves the best.

I believe it is the original converter too.

Time to start shopping.

John and Stacey Smith
Motorcade NO: 11973
1997 U295 CSGI 40'..Build No. 5036     
920 Watts on the roof..CAT Power w/fuel Inj. Programmer
2021 GMC Sierra AT4 1500
EX..2015 Jeep Wrangler Sahara
Ex 1990 U280 RSAI 36'..Build No. 3638

Re: Low Coach Voltage

Reply #22
Good call Brett, checked coach and found the block heater to be on.  114v in the coach now... amp draw is .6 amps

I want to thank all of you for you ideas and help...This forum is a wonderful resource with so much knowledge.  I appreciate you all  very much.
John and Stacey Smith
Motorcade NO: 11973
1997 U295 CSGI 40'..Build No. 5036     
920 Watts on the roof..CAT Power w/fuel Inj. Programmer
2021 GMC Sierra AT4 1500
EX..2015 Jeep Wrangler Sahara
Ex 1990 U280 RSAI 36'..Build No. 3638

Re: Low Coach Voltage

Reply #23
John, I would still be concerned that the voltage drop with the block heater turned on was 17 volts (114 to 97)  Check the plug where the block heater is connected.  Many have discovered a melted plug. 
Roger Engdahl and Susan Green
2001 U320 3610 #5879 (Home2) - 2014 Jeep Cherokee or 2018 F150
Hastings, MN

Re: Low Coach Voltage

Reply #24
I will, going to Galveston for a few days tomorrow, will have time to look her over...In the past, it seems the voltage starts low and works its way back up very slowly
I sure wish it was fall..
John and Stacey Smith
Motorcade NO: 11973
1997 U295 CSGI 40'..Build No. 5036     
920 Watts on the roof..CAT Power w/fuel Inj. Programmer
2021 GMC Sierra AT4 1500
EX..2015 Jeep Wrangler Sahara
Ex 1990 U280 RSAI 36'..Build No. 3638