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Building a bunk room?

Hey everyone!  It's been a while since I've come by here to chat, but I was wondering if anyone has or knows someone who has built a bunk room in their back bedroom.  We have five kiddos and as much as we like our own little bedroom in the back, we would much prefer to put them back there and have the living area up front to ourselves after they're in bed at night.  Can it even be done with the engine access back there? I saw in a search that someone had built bunks in the bathroom closets, but we are too private of bathroom people to attempt that...lol!
-Trent and Siobhan Walker + 5 boys
Proud owners of a 1995 U300 SE that we bought from Jor.  We are so blessed and loving life on the road!

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Reply #1
Just trying to clarify your question - as a GV owner, I can't imagine where you would fit bunk beds around the existing queen bed.  So, are you saying you want to remove the queen mattress, and install two or more smaller beds?  The engine cover/mattress platform is a "fixed" shape - no way to move it or significantly reduce it in size.  If you built a bunk bed frame on top of the engine cover, you would impair your easy access to the engine compartment.

I guess you (and your partner) envision sleeping up front on the pull-out sofa?  Sounds like cruel and unusual punishment to me...
1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
"Nature abhors a vacuum"

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Reply #2
Maybe hammocks hung from side to side.  Easy to take down. These are made to order, made to fit. One color for each.  A ring on each end and a hook in the wall...

Grey Ultralight Camping Hammock by CampgroundSupplyCo on Etsy
Roger Engdahl and Susan Green
2001 U320 3610 #5879 (Home2) - 2014 Jeep Cherokee or 2018 F150
Hastings, MN

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Reply #3
Thought about taking a large family on a trip,here's an idea,shop for a used pop-up and just take it with.You would'nt need one
with a washroom,just ac and bunks.Some are light enough to move by hand.Hammocks would be cool but one drawback would
be getting from the farthest one to the bathroom at night.Just some thoughts.
96 U270 BUILD 4810
85 380SL
Drummonds TN.

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Reply #4
I'd say trade in and buy a Band Tour Bus with the bunks already there.
91 GV U300 Unihome 40' Build 3811
6V92TA Detroit

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Reply #5
How about 5th wheel toy trailer, put bunk beds in the toy area.
1988  40' Grand Villa Cat 3208t

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Reply #6
1982 equal 10 international to her about
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
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Reply #7
If they bought that coach, the Walkers would have room for one more "band member" - make it a even half dozen! 8)
1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
"Nature abhors a vacuum"

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Reply #8
We love our cozy home too much to trade it in for a tour bus.  Besides, tour busses break down all the time, it seems.  We love our Foretravel.  We already counted ourselves very blessed to have found one that has the double pullout sofas up front allowing us to fit our whole family, because it seems that is not a common layout. 
Hammocks are an idea and wouldn't be permanent, which is an idea I like. 

Church and Jeannie...thanks for answering my question.  I didn't think that the bed frame was going to be able to be altered.  Just wanted to make sure I was seeing things right and we definitely wouldn't want to obstruct the access to the engine. 

We have several friends who also travel with their families full time in fifth wheels and they are constantly in and out of the shop with leaks and broken axles and blown tires and all kinda of stuff like that.  A toy hauler would be nice for the space, but I don't want my home to fall apart.  Once again, LOVE our Foretravel.  All of our toy hauler friends who come in our rig always say how sturdy it feels.  Well yeah, it wasn't stapled together in a day out of poor materials. 

The only reason I thought maybe we could convert the back to a bunk room is because I remember, when we were still looking for our coach, I ran across a BB Wanderlodge that was a pusher and the back had been converted into a bunk room, but they must just have totally different engine setup back there.

It's ok.  Maybe we will toy around with the idea of hammocks at some point, but we aren't desperate enough to leave our home.  Our kids would cry buckets and probably hold it against us for the rest of their lives.  We left our rig in KY to drive up to MI this weekend for a funeral and our 4 year old about had a tantrum last night when he realized that we were spending the night at Uncle Johnny's house.  "No!  I want to go back to the RV!"  Four year old little brains just don't have any concept of distance.  I tried to explain that if we left right away we wouldn't even get to the RV until the sun was up.  Lol....he wasn't having it.  Needless to say, they love their home. 😂

Which reminds me, I need to update my signature and maybe put a little Walker family update post out for all our fellow foretravelers here. 

Still so thankful for all the help you all gave us when our alternator went out several months ago.  Everything is still running perfectly!  Such a helpful, caring community here and the support staff at Foretravel has been great to us as well.  😀
-Trent and Siobhan Walker + 5 boys
Proud owners of a 1995 U300 SE that we bought from Jor.  We are so blessed and loving life on the road!

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Reply #9
This would not be all that tough but would require an all or nothing commitment.

I would start by removing all cabinets  in the bedroom, carpet, wall covering...everything.

With the now blank canvas take a look at the engine house.  On our U320 it would be possible to lower the platform about 10 inches. Pay attention to the thermal insulation and the electrical bay at the front.

Now build a system of bunks that fold down from the wall. One set that matches the height of the engine hatch and one set halfway up. It would likely be possible to have six bunks back there in a U shape depending on how tall your kids are...

With everything folded up you stack the mattresses on the platform and have a somewhat normal bedroom.

The hardest part about this would be providing for a bit of privacy. If that was a key requirement a more rigid system that included panels/curtains would work but not fold out of the way.

 

Chris 1999 U320

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Reply #10
Call David Flanagan at Foretravel and ask him how he would do it. Maybe also get a sketch and a quote
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Reply #11
Yes!  This is the kind of ideas I was looking for.  Just wanted to hear if we could get creative back there somehow.  It would be interesting to see if we could do something convertible like this that still allowed access to the engine. 
This would not be all that tough but would require an all or nothing commitment.

I would start by removing all cabinets  in the bedroom, carpet, wall covering...everything.

With the now blank canvas take a look at the engine house.  On our U320 it would be possible to lower the platform about 10 inches. Pay attention to the thermal insulation and the electrical bay at the front.

Now build a system of bunks that fold down from the wall. One set that matches the height of the engine hatch and one set halfway up. It would likely be possible to have six bunks back there in a U shape depending on how tall your kids are...

With everything folded up you stack the mattresses on the platform and have a somewhat normal bedroom.

The hardest part about this would be providing for a bit of privacy. If that was a key requirement a more rigid system that included panels/curtains would work but not fold out of the way.

 


-Trent and Siobhan Walker + 5 boys
Proud owners of a 1995 U300 SE that we bought from Jor.  We are so blessed and loving life on the road!

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Reply #12
Call David Flanagan at Foretravel and ask him how he would do it. Maybe also get a sketch and a quote

We are actually planning on scheduling an oil change in Nacadoches in about 3 weeks.  Maybe we will have someone look at it then.
-Trent and Siobhan Walker + 5 boys
Proud owners of a 1995 U300 SE that we bought from Jor.  We are so blessed and loving life on the road!

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Reply #13
Folding bunks as described, or maybe "slide in" platforms that are of stress skin design (self supporting across each span without uprights or other supports).  These could slip into cleats installed on bulkheads at head and foot of each.  A few other things to consider:

Needing to access engine from bedroom is pretty rare occurence.  As long as whatever you put in is removable without too much effort you're golden.

Maintain Egress through one or two windows.  Have evacuation drills where kids actually exit.  I'd strongly consider adding the litle hand and foothold "steps" on the outside.

Keep the engine cover padded, it'll be a kid private communal area.  You'll probably find em all asleep in a dogpile there anyway.  What a CREW! 
"Not so  long ago we were a nation of risk takers, riding five million pounds of  thrust straight into space."  Joe Gresh
Chuck Pearson
1996 U295
2018 Can Am X3 TurboRS

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Reply #14
-Trent and Siobhan Walker + 5 boys

Every post of yours leaves me in awe of the amazing journey your family is on - together in a FT.  In a few more years a tent next to the coach will be a whole new adventure and free up some room.  But you are together and this lasts forever.

Our preference is National, State, County, City and COE parks when we can. They may be busy and full but we are always pleased to see the range of people and campers in them. Especially families with all of the bikes and toys and stuff. And older couples in a simple tent perhaps and young people, early 20's perhaps doing what they did as kids with their family or trying it out on their own.

We are so blessed to have the space and the amazing places to visit, to go there with our families and to be together, to share the adventure and create the values, memories and joy of travel. Have a safe and a wonderful journey together.
Roger Engdahl and Susan Green
2001 U320 3610 #5879 (Home2) - 2014 Jeep Cherokee or 2018 F150
Hastings, MN

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Reply #15
5 boys! Just wait until the boys grow up and want to go along with their wives!! I can just picture a nice long caravan of Foretravel coaches!! :))  :))  :))  ^.^d
Nitehawk,  Demolition Lady, & our NEW master, Zippy the speeding BB cat.
1989 Grand Villa 36' ORED
Oshkosh chassis, 8.2 DD V8
2006 Saturn Vue AWD

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For those who may have missed it, on the Walkerfam7 profile page, there is a link to their "professional" web site.  Very well done - tells about their wondrous journey, plus provides a sample of their unique musical style.  Well worth a visit!  ^.^d

Trent & Siobhán
1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
"Nature abhors a vacuum"

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Reply #17
Years ago Dodge built a motor home called a Travco. They sold the line to Mr. Fore and he manufactured Travco's along with the FT brand. They had a couch in the front that the back folded out and had straps that hooked on the ceiling which made an upper bunk and a lower bunk. This worked, we had one. Someone may still make that concept. You could have one on each side to have 4 bunks and something in the middle for #5? Ask the FT people about this, it might be an option?

Anyone remember the old Travco's? The kids used to call it the "ARK" and loved it.


Carter Langford
Nac-

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Reply #18
Sounds like the safari magic bed.
96 U270 BUILD 4810
85 380SL
Drummonds TN.


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Reply #20
Could do like what is done on the space station? Or Velcro on the PJs and stick the kids on the walls?
Sleeping bags in large PVC tubes and stacked in the bedroom? >:D  >:D  :))  :))  :))
Nitehawk,  Demolition Lady, & our NEW master, Zippy the speeding BB cat.
1989 Grand Villa 36' ORED
Oshkosh chassis, 8.2 DD V8
2006 Saturn Vue AWD

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Reply #21
The Japanese refined that concept years ago - they are called Capsule Hotels.
1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
"Nature abhors a vacuum"

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Reply #22
An idea. With coach pointed north, three on the queen oriented east-west, 2 above suspend north-south directly above the queen. Thinner pad on the queen and/or shorten doghouse for extra vertical. Leaves aisles and windows accessible.
Old Phart Phred, EIEIO
89 GV ored 36' #3405 300 hp cat 3208 ATAAC side radiator, mountain tamer exhaust brake

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Reply #23
The floorplans and spec pages on the Beamalarm site show a 1995 U300 with twin beds...  I have not found a picture of one yet but if twin beds we available there is a strong likelihood that the height of the doghouse can be managed.

An adaptation of these would be straightforward...

Disc-O-Bed Cam-O-Bunk Cots with Organizers - Extra Large - REI.com


The bunks I put in the closet of our coach work great but there is a point in the future that the kids will grow out of them.

When that happens we will use a tent for the two plus night stays and something like this for the single night stays.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IXom_Zv9_U

Chris 1999 U320

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Reply #24
The floorplans and spec pages on the Beamalarm site show a 1995 U300 with twin beds...  I have not found a picture of one yet but if twin beds we available there is a strong likelihood that the height of the doghouse can be managed.
I see the specs show a "SB" model with twin beds, but I've never run across a photo of that setup.  Would really like to see how it worked!
1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
"Nature abhors a vacuum"