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The old Refrigerator

My original Dometic 7130 has stopped cooling. I have tried both Propane and elec. neither will get it to go. There is no smell. Are there things I can check and next what is the cheapest way to go if I have to replace. I would probably go residential based on what I have read on the forum. But can I do it with no battery changes and using existing electrical? Many on this forum have done great upgrades that go way beyond my needs. I would like to use the KISS method. [Keep it simple stupid]. I live in the leesburg fl area. Thanks.   
1995 U320 40', 2013 chevy sonic toad, my real love are corvettes have owned 30

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Reply #1
How do you use your coach ? What batteries do you have ?
Dave W. (AKA Toyman )
'03, 270, 36', Build 6095, Pulling whatever I hook it to.

"Don't cry because it's over. Smile because it happened."
Dr Seuss

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Unless it's something you've overlooked, like the card, see if Dometic makes a plug-in retro-fit. My experience ($$$) with Dometics, is , don't bother having it re-built. Get a fresh one, with warranty.  ^.^d
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I have two large gel batteries and a 2000watt inverter. I dont full time and seldom dry camp.
1995 U320 40', 2013 chevy sonic toad, my real love are corvettes have owned 30

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Joe, if you are like many of us and are connected to a land line much of the time most residential ref will work fine with out battery changes or electrical mods.  There are lots of size options.  A smaller residential refrigerator won't necessarily use less power.  Get the most efficient refrigerator you can for the size.  Ice makers use lots of power.  If you like to be off the grid then adding an extra battery or adding solar will help. 

Adding/adjusting cabinet space can be pricey depending on who does it so think that part through to make it as effective for you going forward.

Roger Engdahl and Susan Green
2001 U320 3610 #5879 (Home2) - 2014 Jeep Cherokee or 2018 F150
Hastings, MN

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My original Dometic 7130 has stopped cooling. I have tried both Propane and elec. neither will get it to go. There is no smell. Are there things I can check and next what is the cheapest way to go if I have to replace. I would probably go residential based on what I have read on the forum. But can I do it with no battery changes and using existing electrical? Many on this forum have done great upgrades that go way beyond my needs. I would like to use the KISS method. [Keep it simple stupid]. I live in the leesburg fl area. Thanks.   
Joe..
Are you getting a "check" light on the eyebrow panel.?

Hans & Marjet
1995 U300 "Ben" (#4719)
3176B Cat,4060HD,Jake
SKP#139131
Motorcade#17579
2006 Honda Element (towed)

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No the check light does not come on in either mode gas or elec.
1995 U320 40', 2013 chevy sonic toad, my real love are corvettes have owned 30

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Reply #7
Disconnect and reconnect the connection on the controll board.
Do you have a schematic ? You can check for voltage on the power pin in the connector.
Does the light come on inside the refrigerator when you open the door ?
John Duld
1995 U320C SE 40'

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Joe, if you are like many of us and are connected to a land line much of the time most residential ref will work fine with out battery changes or electrical mods.  There are lots of size options.  A smaller residential refrigerator won't necessarily use less power.  Get the most efficient refrigerator you can for the size.  Ice makers use lots of power.  If you like to be off the grid then adding an extra battery or adding solar will help. 

Adding/adjusting cabinet space can be pricey depending on who does it so think that part through to make it as effective for you going forward.


When we bought our coach we were told up front that the refrigerator was very iffy. When we got the coach home, a few weeks after we originally saw it, the refrigerator was definitely dead. We replaced it with a residential model. Our original plan was to get one that would fit in the original opening, with maybe some space on the side. Couldn't be done with a normal-sized refrigerator (a dorm room one would fit, but that's too small). We also required the new residential unit to be able to fit in through the door. I finally had to take out the cabinets under the old refrigerator in order for the new one to fit.

We lived with the new refrigerator just kind of tacked down as we decided whether we wanted it on the floor and a cabinet above or a cabinet below as the factory originally had. We thought we wanted the cabinet above, but when we got to Foretravel Larry suggested that we make it more like the original, so we did. Cost was about $3500 for that work (original estimate was less than $2000). Since then, we've had several people in our coach and we often tell them that some of the cabinet work was done in March, while the rest was done in 1993, and ask them to find the new work. So far no one has been able to spot the new work until we point it out.

We replaced the original battery chargers and inverter about the same time on the theory that newer equipment would be more efficient and the old stuff might be nearing the end of useful life. Didn't change the batteries or add solar. Haven't really done boondocking yet, but we've run on just the inverter and batteries for a few drive days without any ill effects.

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Here is a like to my install.  Did it all myself including the cabinetry.  Sold the LP refrig, it was limping along.  Got the refrig on sale.  Total net cost less than $1000.  Several have done it themselves with great outcomes.

Another Samsung installed
Roger Engdahl and Susan Green
2001 U320 3610 #5879 (Home2) - 2014 Jeep Cherokee or 2018 F150
Hastings, MN

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On many Dometic boards there is a small fuse.  Check by removing cover and use a meter to see if fuse is good.  When stored corrosion can form, on both the board connectors and the fuse contacts.  Also check valve and regulator on gas line to ensure that valve is open and regulator is operating.  You can see if you have gas at stove and that will tell you if you have a gas supply. Also confirm that you have 12 volts at the solenoid on the gas line to fridge.
Gary B

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Good morning everyone, first Roger nice install I wish you were here. John I do have a schematic and I will disconnect and reconnect the 12v at control board. Light bulb inside stopped working so I pulled bulb. Lever sw. for light was always sticking. Gary I have gas at stove and was able to light pilot for frig. I stopped at lowes and home depot. The least expensive frig. That come close to size is a magic chef in black and a Haier in stainless. Both in the $450.00 range. I believe I can get them through the front door by taking doors off. I will need to confirm that.
1995 U320 40', 2013 chevy sonic toad, my real love are corvettes have owned 30

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Getting the new refrig in is the easy part.  My Samsung weighed less than 1/2 of what the Dometic did.  I took the pass side window out and went that way.  Lot less risk of damaging the new refrigerator, pass chair, door or dash.  You can get a rubber gasket for the window from Xtreme to use when putting it back in.  Cleaning all the sealant off the window easily took as long as getting it out and back in.  I rented a material lift with forks for about $40 for a day.  It was a crank up thing  -  12' up and 400 lbs - made the job easy.

I also made a box on wheels the same height as the bottom of the LP  refrigerator so that it just slid straight out. Then we rolled it down by the window and got the box out from under it and on to the floor where we had some working room.  A much shorter box on wheels for the Samsung got it into position easily and it just slides into place.
Roger Engdahl and Susan Green
2001 U320 3610 #5879 (Home2) - 2014 Jeep Cherokee or 2018 F150
Hastings, MN

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Here is what I used to get my old one out of the hole, & new one in.

1500 lb. Capacity ATV/Motorcycle Lift

I put in the Haier 10.11' and have been more than happy with it. I'd say your equipment, & use profile would easily support the residential. PM me if you want more info.
Dave W. (AKA Toyman )
'03, 270, 36', Build 6095, Pulling whatever I hook it to.

"Don't cry because it's over. Smile because it happened."
Dr Seuss

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JoeS, you by the sounds of it are putting in the one we have although ours is called "whirlpool". I brought it in via the door and was no problem. Neighbour gave me a hand to both bring it in and take the old Dometic 2 door our that way.. On the old one I did remove doors and some trims but it went out without a problem and no damage. Just heavy as all have noted.
Very happy with new one and is over 3 yrs old now. We boondock a lot and never a problem.
JohnH

John Haygarth's fridge and pantry upgrade (What did you do to your coach today)
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2000 U295  36' Cummins 350 c/w Banks Stinger, Resonator upgrade,Solar, LED lites.Residential fridge with slide out pantry. Build 5674. Sold
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Well here is how my exploration is going. I was leaning toward the Haier type 10.11 cu. ft. fridge and doing the removal and install myself like many of you have done. I then stoped at a rv repair shop in Fruitland Park Florida. The gentleman repairs appliances in rv's. He quoted me $720.00 cash to remove rebuild and reinstall my present Dometic. He will warranty all labor and parts for one year. I don't have to do a thing and I won't loose a thing. I know its risky on rebuild, but I will give it a try. Won't do it till after the Holidays.  If this works out down the road it may be an option for others.
1995 U320 40', 2013 chevy sonic toad, my real love are corvettes have owned 30

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Reply #16
   ---$720.00 cash----

That may cause a problem if it does not work out! get a written guarantee , signed with his business on it.
JohnH
Coachless, now use aircraft. 2003 Ford Travelair TC280 class C. Super shape. Just for 1 yr .
1994 Ford E350 ClassC,total renovation inside and out. Now sold.
2000 U295  36' Cummins 350 c/w Banks Stinger, Resonator upgrade,Solar, LED lites.Residential fridge with slide out pantry. Build 5674. Sold
ex 92 GV 022C ored Cummins. Sold
ex 95 GV240 cat 3116. Sold
2017 Mini cooper s & 2016 land Rover LR2 HSE  LUX.
jhaygarth@aol.com    SKP #130098
treat everyone as you would like to be.

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You bet John I forgot to mention that he stated it will be in writing on his contract form. He is a small time guy who appears to have been in that location a long time. Its a gamble but I have dumber things in my life just ask my wife.
1995 U320 40', 2013 chevy sonic toad, my real love are corvettes have owned 30

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---$720.00 cash--- hmmm.

I'd first ask him just what he is going to rebuild. It shouldn't be a secret.  Is he going to replace the entire cooling unit with a remanufactured?  That's the usual rebuild.  If so, what brand? 

Have you checked to see if your control board is functional?  A call to dinosaur electronics (well regarded manufacturer of replacement control boards) might be in order.  They have been very helpful with diagnosing problems, and their replacement boards are cheap.  Even if you buy a board and put it in, and it doesn't fix it, it will be usable for your water heater....or salable to other RV'rs. 

Definitely easier to repair than replace with home style.  Bear in mind that many of the folks who have gone to all electric refrigerators are very talented woodworkers and innovative problem solvers.  It is no small project to replace with residential, and get a finished appearance equal to what you have now. 

"Not so  long ago we were a nation of risk takers, riding five million pounds of  thrust straight into space."  Joe Gresh
Chuck Pearson
1996 U295
2018 Can Am X3 TurboRS

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@Joe,

I'd check to be sure there is power at the outlet the fridge is plugged into. If you have lights on the panel switch it to electric, wait about 10 to 15 minutes and check the flu for any heat. There is an access panel on the side of the flu with insulation packed into it. Peel back the insulation until you find the electric heater. If it's putting out heat it's probably your coils are bad. If it's not putting out heat I'd bet it's the controller board. If it's the controller board go with the dinosaur board as others have mentioned. Easy DYI. If it's the coils you can DYI them but your guys offer at $750 sounds pretty good. Find out what coils he plans to use and let us know. I'd recommend the Amish coils if you can get them.

see ya
ken
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We had our cooling unit replaced with a remanufactured one in 2009- been working great since then.  I agree check on what brand the reman cooling unit is- it will go quicker if it is just a replacement with the reman. already there.  Also agree to replace the board with a Dinosaur while you are at it.  I paid $680 for the unit and install back in 2009, so your price sounds good.  I was able to use credit card for the business- fyi.

They had 2 guys working on ours and it was 2.5 hours from the time they started until they were done.

Hope this helps and you get yours fixed.

 ^.^d
Ted & Karen
2001 U270 36' - sold after 12 years full timing

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Thank you all for those suggestions I dont have answers to your questions but I'll be asking them when he does it. Ted and Karen your prices are great most rv joints around here want 6 hours my guy is 4 hours. Its a gamble but I am a gambler. This wont be till after the holidays and I'll report what was done.
1995 U320 40', 2013 chevy sonic toad, my real love are corvettes have owned 30

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Joe, if you have second thoughts about this, call Paul Yasbeck, he's right in Leesburg, 813-382-0869...everything he does is first rate, & when he does something, it is always done right.  He's done several fridges for FT folks in the area. Some residential, some marine, in coaches.

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Good idea got a call in for Paul. He may know the guy since its local and he may have other sugedtions. Thanks Miz Dani
1995 U320 40', 2013 chevy sonic toad, my real love are corvettes have owned 30

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Thank you all for those suggestions I dont have answers to your questions but I'll be asking them when he does it. Ted and Karen your prices are great most rv joints around here want 6 hours my guy is 4 hours. Its a gamble but I am a gambler. This wont be till after the holidays and I'll report what was done.
Joe....We had our cooling unit 7130 replaced by the Amish in Indiana. Been working great for the last 2 years, prior to that I replaced the board with a Dinosaur unit.

Hans

Hans & Marjet
1995 U300 "Ben" (#4719)
3176B Cat,4060HD,Jake
SKP#139131
Motorcade#17579
2006 Honda Element (towed)