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accumulator replacement

Looks like I need to replace my accumulator in my 95 gran villa. When I depressed the air valve water came out. When I turn the pump on it runs continuously very little pressure.
I read in early post that I can put the new accumulator tank anywhere in the cold water line (perhaps under the sink), if I do that do I need to remove the old accumulator tank or can I just leave it there.
I may put in a 4 gal tank under the sink because there is more room  if there is any advantage to using the larger tank
All opinions are appreciated
Thanks in advance
Donnie
Donnie, Elaine & Harley
1995 U280 Unihome 36'
Coach Build 4680
2006 Saturn Vue
Previous coach 1998 U270 34'

Re: accumulator replacement

Reply #1
I read in early post that I can put the new accumulator tank anywhere in the cold water line (perhaps under the sink).

If I do that do I need to remove the old accumulator tank or can I just leave it there?

I may put in a 4 gal tank under the sink because there is more room  if there is any advantage to using the larger tank?
My opinions:

1.  Yes, you can put it anywhere in the cold water line.  I mounted ours under the bathroom sink, to free up space in the water pump bay.

Water Pump Accumulator Tank

2.  Remove the old tank.  Don't want the water there to get stagnant and nasty.  Even if it's empty, still takes up valuable space.

3.  Larger tank means more water will flow out of faucets before the pump kicks on.  But then the pump will also run longer.

4.  Be sure new tank is pressurized to slightly less (2 psi) than pump "kick on" pressure, before you turn the water pump on.
1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
"Nature abhors a vacuum"

Re: accumulator replacement

Reply #2
Thanks for the input
Do I need to remove the hot water heater to remove the old tank?
Thanks again
Donnie
Donnie, Elaine & Harley
1995 U280 Unihome 36'
Coach Build 4680
2006 Saturn Vue
Previous coach 1998 U270 34'

Re: accumulator replacement

Reply #3
Our tank was originally "hanging" in a bracket screwed to the bottom of the metal frame that supports the water heater.  So in our case, no, did not have to do anything to the water heater to remove the tank.

You'll end up with a water line that must be capped off.  Easiest thing is to use SharkBite termination cap.  They just push on the end of the cut off pipe.  Work great.  Look in the upper right corner of the photo below - you'll see the brass cap on the grey pipe:
1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
"Nature abhors a vacuum"

Re: accumulator replacement

Reply #4
Donnie,
  You can also just eliminate the tank altogether. That's what I did on my last rig. Freed up the space and never missed it. (Nice photo and compartment, Chuck!)
jor
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95 300
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99 320

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Reply #5
Donnie,
  You can also just eliminate the tank altogether. That's what I did on my last rig. Freed up the space and never missed it. (Nice photo and compartment, Chuck!)
jor
That's what I did (Thanks Chuck) works like a charm with 4008 pump...
Hans & Marjet
1995 U300 "Ben" (#4719)
3176B Cat,4060HD,Jake
SKP#139131
Motorcade#17579
2006 Honda Element (towed)

Re: accumulator replacement

Reply #6
Photo below
Hans & Marjet
1995 U300 "Ben" (#4719)
3176B Cat,4060HD,Jake
SKP#139131
Motorcade#17579
2006 Honda Element (towed)

Re: accumulator replacement

Reply #7
You can also just eliminate the tank altogether.
OP doesn't say what kind of pump they have.  Some pumps work very well without a pressure tank...some not so good.  We tried running our new 4008 first without the tank, then with it.  We prefer with the tank - sounds more "relaxed" to me (perception is everything).

As always, DWMY(think you are)H.
1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
"Nature abhors a vacuum"

Re: accumulator replacement

Reply #8
Chuck.

 I see you have the same temp/humidity sensor in the water bay that we have. Nice to know what's going on there. We also put one under the front cap above the grill and one in the back window (added by PO) and the base unit over the door. We now know what the temp/humidity is everywhere around the coach.
  Is yours working good for you ?

  Bob n Sue.
Robert and Susan
 1995 36' 280 WTBI 8.3 3060r
 1200 watts on the roof, 720 Ah of lithium's
 Build # 4637. Motorcade # 17599
        FMCA  # 451505
        18  Wrangler JLUR

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Reply #9
Actually, the remotes are still working fine, but the base unit broke - it quit receiving the data from the remotes.  So I replaced it with a slightly simpler model (link below) which is working great.  I left the old remotes in place because I can still use them as digital thermometers when I open the bay doors.  Have one in both ends of the wet bay, along with the new senders for the new unit, and the 3rd one in the bedroom next to the bed.

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1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
"Nature abhors a vacuum"

Re: accumulator replacement

Reply #10
Does the new unit show multiple readings or just one st a time. I do like the original because it has multiple readings to compare on a single screen. Humidity / temp here verses there kind of thing.

 Bob n Sue
Robert and Susan
 1995 36' 280 WTBI 8.3 3060r
 1200 watts on the roof, 720 Ah of lithium's
 Build # 4637. Motorcade # 17599
        FMCA  # 451505
        18  Wrangler JLUR

Re: accumulator replacement

Reply #11
The new one just shows temps - temp at the base unit on the bottom, and cycles through the 3 remotes on the top.  Time in the middle.
1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
"Nature abhors a vacuum"

Re: accumulator replacement

Reply #12
update. The accumulator was replaced without any issues ( a little tight area to work but manageable), I put the same size ( 2 gal) purchased from home depot in the same location
again thanks to those who offered guidance
Donnie
Donnie, Elaine & Harley
1995 U280 Unihome 36'
Coach Build 4680
2006 Saturn Vue
Previous coach 1998 U270 34'

Re: accumulator replacement

Reply #13
Donnie,

Did you adjust PSI to pump cut in PSI minus 2 PSI?
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
Moderator, ForeForum 2001-
Moderator Diesel RV Club 2002-
Moderator, FMCA Forum 2009-2020
Chairman FMCA Technical Advisory Committee 2011-2020

Re: accumulator replacement

Reply #14
How do we determine the pump cut in pressure. I must have missed that part and I also just replaced the accumulator.
Robert and Susan
 1995 36' 280 WTBI 8.3 3060r
 1200 watts on the roof, 720 Ah of lithium's
 Build # 4637. Motorcade # 17599
        FMCA  # 451505
        18  Wrangler JLUR

Re: accumulator replacement

Reply #15
How do we determine the pump cut in pressure. I must have missed that part and I also just replaced the accumulator.

You will have to go to our pump manufacturer's website or owners manual for the pump. 

For many of the older pumps it is 25 -2= 23 PSI.  But there have been several different pumps used over the years.
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
Moderator, ForeForum 2001-
Moderator Diesel RV Club 2002-
Moderator, FMCA Forum 2009-2020
Chairman FMCA Technical Advisory Committee 2011-2020

Re: accumulator replacement

Reply #16
yes I set the pressure to 23 psi and it works well
thanks again
Donnie
Donnie, Elaine & Harley
1995 U280 Unihome 36'
Coach Build 4680
2006 Saturn Vue
Previous coach 1998 U270 34'