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Re: Looking at 1986 3600 OREG

Reply #25
We have a'87 6.9... other than replacing the injector pump due to the "new" diesel blends,,, still turning dead dinosaurs into smoke and noise
'02 40' U320t  4010WTFS Build 6036 1 slide
Motorcade # 17841
SKP 151920
Retired truck driver
 5 million miler
Still have itchy feet for travel

Re: Looking at 1986 3600 OREG

Reply #26
Yes the 6l nightmare. Lots of fixes out there for them now. My new boss has a brand new Ford 750 with the 6.7 in it. Happy with it so far other than we can't find anyone allowed to do warranty work on it apparently everyone here can't do bigger than a 550. My boss is buying 6 more in the next two years.

As for the 7.3 yes carrying a can sensor would be a good idea they are cheap and easy to change.
Very interested to hear how you make out with this
Toby a 94 u280
Cummins 8.3
6 speed Allison
Exhaust brake


Adopted by Derek and Annabelle

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Reply #27
After buying one for every 7.3 never had another to go out. Several

people I knew had them to go out. Our glove boxes were the parts store

for several. They all sold with an extra in there except for this 7.3 I keep at

the farm. with a goose neck on it, it will out pull anything anyone else shows

up with. Why did Ford quit buying them? Pollution issues???

Carter-

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Reply #28
I worked at Navistar in Waukesha, WI where we made the four bolt main bearing caps for the 7.3 engine.
Lots of quality issues until I was able to get them fixed.
Example: broach cars (they each held a main cap) would not stay locked.
Example: Dial index machine (that I designed while working at Wisconsin Drill Head Co) constantly broke the drills so holes wandered. Turned out WDH purchasing agent specified a rap coupling instead of an alignment coupler on each slide feed cylinder.
Example: The setup guy came in the first day I was there and wanted to know which mark after the "6" on a vernier calipers was .01"
                He had no idea how to set the tools on the machine.
Example: We also made the "B" and "C" caps for Cummins. Almost every month we would end up sending two inspectors to go thru the palletainers of caps we had sent and do 100% inspection of them.
Example: The machine shop was shut down and everything shipped to Mexico. According to the Division Manager he fired the Machining Facility Manager ( Carl Metzger) because he lost too many good people. (we quit because of Carl)
Nitehawk,  Demolition Lady, & our NEW master, Zippy the speeding BB cat.
1989 Grand Villa 36' ORED
Oshkosh chassis, 8.2 DD V8
2006 Saturn Vue AWD

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Reply #29
I'm curious about the manual transmissions. Have they been used in Foretravels? I could see them in a front engined one but the linkages for a rear engine would be pretty incredible.

I had a 1969 Bronco with 3 on the tree and I always thought driving manuals were more fun, so an RV with one would be quite an adventure. 
1986 36' Grand Villa OREG converted to 7.3 IDI diesel

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Reply #30
There is an 86 gv 36 for sale in Salina KS Craigslist. 3208 cat for $7k but it kinda suspect.
Old Phart Phred, EIEIO
89 GV ored 36' #3405 300 hp cat 3208 ATAAC side radiator, mountain tamer exhaust brake

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Reply #31
Have you found that coach for under 4,000? It will be hard to find one

as most of those are sitting on lake lots or a place in the country.

Much nicer digs than you get in anything else for that amount of $.

Carter-

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Reply #32
Phred,

  Someone must have liked it, because it is gone.

Carter-

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Reply #33
785-342-7932 ask for carlo.
Got an email late yesterday afternoon wanting to know if I was still interested. He has the manuals.
 
Working another deal, for a 94 u300 wtb 6v92 with fresh tires, batteries, (1) new roof ac, always stored inside, all manuals and Nac service records from where purchased in 96. But we're not talking $7k either.
Old Phart Phred, EIEIO
89 GV ored 36' #3405 300 hp cat 3208 ATAAC side radiator, mountain tamer exhaust brake

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Reply #34
Still there, ad title lists it as and 89 but description lists 86 which it is. 26000 gvrw 197k miles so it's probably been used on a regular basis, new start batteries and alternator that's miswired as it is not charging. No pictures.
Old Phart Phred, EIEIO
89 GV ored 36' #3405 300 hp cat 3208 ATAAC side radiator, mountain tamer exhaust brake

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Reply #35
Funny you should mention that...I spotted this item and thought this seller could benefit from this Forum by introducing her dad's rig, that is for sale. This coach belonged to her 90 plus año father.  Cool looking ride, right?

2017 Travel in Style~ 1985 Travco/Foretravel 36' Rv Motorhome
Paul & Kathleen
1995 U320c SE 40'
Build 4681 --Cummins M11 /17511
"That Irish Girl"
Red MINI " 40"

Re: Looking at 1986 3600 OREG

Reply #36
Funny you should mention that...I spotted this item and thought this seller could benefit from this Forum by introducing her dad's rig, that is for sale. This coach belonged to her 90 plus año father.  Cool looking ride, right?

2017 Travel in Style~ 1985 Travco/Foretravel 36' Rv Motorhome
I wonder how Foretravel was able to get the same storage pods on my '81 4 years before this Travco?
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

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Reply #37
On that 1985 the fuel says gas but the description says diesel pusher. HUH?
Nitehawk,  Demolition Lady, & our NEW master, Zippy the speeding BB cat.
1989 Grand Villa 36' ORED
Oshkosh chassis, 8.2 DD V8
2006 Saturn Vue AWD

Re: Looking at 1986 3600 OREG

Reply #38
On that 1985 the fuel says gas but the description says diesel pusher. HUH?
Original post explains it. Gas engine removed Diesel engine installed.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

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Reply #39
Interesting as to side storage. Since Mr. Fore owned both

companies I would have thought they would have been about

alike on the fiberglass outside that just the interiors were different?

Carter-

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Reply #40
Interesting as to side storage. Since Mr. Fore owned both

companies I would have thought they would have been about

alike on the fiberglass outside that just the interiors were different?

Carter-
There are 3 of those storage pods on the roof of the '81 side storage was minimal because of frame, kept them shallow. It has 3 on the pass. side and 1 on the driver side
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

Re: Looking at 1986 3600 OREG

Reply #41
Have you found that coach for under 4,000? It will be hard to find one

as most of those are sitting on lake lots or a place in the country.

Much nicer digs than you get in anything else for that amount of $.

Carter-
I'm talking to someone that has an '86 Grand Villa that originally had the 460, that he had replaced with a idi 7.3. for that price it seems to be worth putting some work into. If that falls through, I am considering the pros and cons of getting a gas engine GV and converting it to the 7.3 or if its got the Chevy 454, to a Cummins 5.9.

The main difference as far as I can tell is that I would then have the Oshkosh 814 chassis with hydraulic brakes, the Ford C6  transmission and leaf springs  instead of the 917 with air suspension, the Allison 643 and air brakes. Well, and another 8000 lbs GVW.

I imagine that the smaller chassis would be easier to work on, and get better gas milage. both major considerations for me. The 917 chassis is probably more robust. and I hate to admit, has the coolness factor.  I've done a fair amount of research, and i think any Foretravel I get will be a great ride.
1986 36' Grand Villa OREG converted to 7.3 IDI diesel

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Reply #42
Please keep the thread updated. It would be awesome of follow your progress. Good hunting!
1993 U300 40ft GV SE
Build # 4344

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Reply #43
Please keep the thread updated. It would be awesome of follow your progress. Good hunting!

Will do. I am currently second in line for it. the buyer ahead of me is hemming and hawing a little too much for the seller, so there is still a chance I get this one.  Otherwise, I think I wouldn't be so quick to turn my nose up at a rear engine gas model. This seems to be like a viable conversion.
1986 36' Grand Villa OREG converted to 7.3 IDI diesel

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Reply #44
Before I forget it, if you do make a conversion to a 7.3, remove the OEM fuel filter, fuel heater, etc. assembly and round can it. It has a dozen places for air to get into the fuel system. Just remote a fuel filter (mount and filter NAPA or ebay) and add a Facet electric pump to prime it. Only use the long tubular variety not the square kind.

Pierce
Pierce and Gaylie Stewart
'93 U300/36 WTBI
Detroit 6V-92TA Jake
1140 watts on the roof
SBFD (ret)

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Reply #45
It may be a stretch because of the weight factor, but a friend blew the 454 in his 36' AS. Found a Duramax and Allison from a rear-ended fresh truck. Took him and his Dad a few months, but he sure is happy!  ^.^d
1993 U-240 "La Villa Grande"..CAT 3116 w/ Pacbrake PRXB...Allison 3060 6-speed..
Previous: 1983 Airstream 310 turbo diesel, 1979 Airstream 280 turbo diesel
                                      Build # 4297
                                      PNW natives
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                        DW Judy & Chet the wonder dog
                        Full-Timers 'Sailing the asphalt sea'

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Reply #46
Sounds like a good conversion. Don't think the weight is that much different. Rear end ratio might be a little on the short side. Our 440 Dodge was high numerical side stock and with the 7.3, really on the short side. Did cruise an easy 60 though. I can see taking a little longer with the electronics.

Pierce
Pierce and Gaylie Stewart
'93 U300/36 WTBI
Detroit 6V-92TA Jake
1140 watts on the roof
SBFD (ret)

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Reply #47
PPL has a 87 Foretravel,may be worth a look they are calling it above average.
96 U270 BUILD 4810
85 380SL
Drummonds TN.

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Reply #48
So... I'm going to go check this out and probably bring it home in 10 days, if there are no surprises. Its got the 7.3 IDI, a 2 speed differential, which sounds like how they dealt with the lower rpm engine.  I don't remember if its the 7.3 IDI or the Powerstroke 7.3, but one of those mounts on the 460's engine mounts, so it sounds like an easy swap. Ill ask again which engine that was.
1986 36' Grand Villa OREG converted to 7.3 IDI diesel

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Reply #49
Good Luck!
'02 40' U320t  4010WTFS Build 6036 1 slide
Motorcade # 17841
SKP 151920
Retired truck driver
 5 million miler
Still have itchy feet for travel