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Leaving in morning NEED help with propane!!

Coach propane tank read E...took coach to town and had the tank filled to 3/4...coach is parked outside the house getting ready to leave in AM.  Noticed temp in fridge was 66, freezer 47....refrig. check light on....turned fridge off waited a few seconds turn on...check light off, generator is on so I switched fridge to AC.
There is no gas to the stove...turned on stove to be sure everything was ok with propane but there is no gas coming out of the burners...I had the nose right on the burner....no gas.
What do I need to do?  LP tank full, but no gas...could there be air in the lines from filling...surely not since LP is a closed system...guys I need some serious help with this if you can advise....Thanks!
dave
One more thing please....freezer is cooling nicely but the fridge portion is still hovering around 66....will freezer cool off before the fridge portion does????....
Man I thought I was set to go....crap.
Dave
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Reply #1
Check to make sure you turned the tank on.. when I turn mine on it is almost instant to the fridge.

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Reply #2
First check you have tank valve open (has to be shut off when filling) and wait for around 4 or more hours before fridge part starts to get cool. Cold air comes from the freezer usually so that is always the first to feel cold.
I would keep trying to light the stove to see if it finally gets circulating.
JohnH
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Reply #3
Coach propane tank read E...took coach to town and had the tank filled to 3/4...coach is parked outside the house getting ready to leave in AM.  Noticed temp in fridge was 66, freezer 47....refrig. check light on....turned fridge off waited a few seconds turn on...check light off, generator is on so I switched fridge to AC.
There is no gas to the stove...turned on stove to be sure everything was ok with propane but there is no gas coming out of the burners...I had the nose right on the burner....no gas.
What do I need to do?  LP tank full, but no gas...could there be air in the lines from filling...surely not since LP is a closed system...guys I need some serious help with this if you can advise....Thanks!
dave
One more thing please....freezer is cooling nicely but the fridge portion is still hovering around 66....will freezer cool off before the fridge portion does????....
Man I thought I was set to go....crap.
The law in Texas dictates that person filling tank must turn off the discharge valve before filling, they often forget to turn it back on after filling your tank.
Jim C.
coachfree, previous 1997, 1999, 2000, and 2003 Foretravels.

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Reply #4
The freezer cools before the fridge.
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Reply #5
If valve is already on at main tank, try turning it back off, then opening it quite slowly.
Dan - Full timing since 2009
2003 U320 40' Tag 2 slide

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Reply #6
Try turning these things back on if they are shut off. We have one by the step well and another one by the power meter. If they accidentally get shut off.      You get propane to nowhere.  Don't ask :)
Robert and Susan
 1995 36' 280 WTBI 8.3 3060r
 1200 watts on the roof, 720 Ah of lithium's
 Build # 4637. Motorcade # 17599
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Reply #7
If the propane sniffer is turned off it shuts a solenoid located on the tank supply line which cuts the flow if there is a leak detected. This switch (in previous post photo) must be on.
1994 U280, Build 4490
Deming, NM.

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Reply #8
I am thinking that sometime around 99 due to change in laws, FT did away with the propane shut off. My 99 and 2000 did not have the electrical shutoff valve.
Jim C.
coachfree, previous 1997, 1999, 2000, and 2003 Foretravels.

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Reply #9
Sooo,  2000 and newer have no gas shut off system in case of a leak??    There must be something like it to check.
Robert and Susan
 1995 36' 280 WTBI 8.3 3060r
 1200 watts on the roof, 720 Ah of lithium's
 Build # 4637. Motorcade # 17599
        FMCA  # 451505
        18  Wrangler JLUR


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Reply #11
is gas getting to stove?

do you have an ice maker in the freezer of your refrigerator (ice maker is electric in RV refrigerators, might be cooling the freezer some -
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Reply #12
Sooo,  2000 and newer have no gas shut off system in case of a leak??    There must be something like it to check.
I believe it used to be a requirement to get a RVIA sticker on your coach. They followed NFP guidelines. Some manufacturers never used  RVIA so did not install the solenoid shut off. NFP  and thus RVIA dropped the requirement somewhere in the late 1998 or 1999. The audible propane monitor alarm inside the coach is still required.
Jim C.
coachfree, previous 1997, 1999, 2000, and 2003 Foretravels.


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Reply #14
Wow, interesting. So if one of the 5 propane devices in a post 99 coach go south when your away, the coach blows up ?      But you get an alarm    If your home. 

  Thank you Foretravel for complying in 1995.
Robert and Susan
 1995 36' 280 WTBI 8.3 3060r
 1200 watts on the roof, 720 Ah of lithium's
 Build # 4637. Motorcade # 17599
        FMCA  # 451505
        18  Wrangler JLUR

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Reply #15
Like others have posted....check the CO detector and reset it.  Mine needs to be reset after I re-fill tank.
Jeff & Carrie
2023 Geneva 31VA
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Reply #16
The 12v electric gas solenoid can fail, stuck closed.  I discarded mine when it failed. They are more trouble than they are worth.
1997 U270 34FT Build 5140 Cummins 8.3 Allison 3060R
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Reply #17
  Until. It saves your life or the coach !

That sounds like talking the battery out of a pesky smoke detector train of thought.
Robert and Susan
 1995 36' 280 WTBI 8.3 3060r
 1200 watts on the roof, 720 Ah of lithium's
 Build # 4637. Motorcade # 17599
        FMCA  # 451505
        18  Wrangler JLUR

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Reply #18

LP Gas Alarm
Good discussion on propane detectors and shut off valves.
Jim C.
coachfree, previous 1997, 1999, 2000, and 2003 Foretravels.

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Reply #19
My solenoid is 25 years old and still works so I have left it in place. If it fails I will probably just remove it. The only time I've had an issue with it shutting off is when I'm working on the batteries and disconnect it for a moment. An off/on cycle fixes that.

see ya
ken
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Reply #20
Many new rigs do not have solenoids. The RV industry realized it was causing more issues that it was worth.
1997 U270 34FT Build 5140 Cummins 8.3 Allison 3060R
Solar 1920Watts, 14KWH lithium. Orion BMS.