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Start batteries

Once we get landed in Stockton I'm going to replace the three start batteries. They look like typical automotive batteries, so I'm hoping that they won't be too heavy to lift out. What is the current thinking on what to use? I'm assuming that I'll get them in Bolivar, so O'Reilly's, Auto Zone, and Wal-Mart are the choices for stores.

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Reply #1
Mine has 3x group 24, which I got at costco. They work great.
95 U300SE

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Reply #2
Optima AGM RedTop is popular with (some) Forum folks.  Available at most auto part chain stores, or they can get them on short notice.  Shop around for the best deal...they are often on sale.

http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/OBT2/RED34/03321.oap?ck=Search_C0423_1327766_-1&pt=C0423&ppt=C0005
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C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
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Reply #3
I don't believe in the red/yellow top batteries. Good quote but I don't want to offend.  I have always used Duralast batteries. I installed three 24 series Duralasts in our coach the day we bought it in N.C. Still cranking like new about 8 years later. Other good choice would be 31 series. Duralasts are made by Johnson Controls.

Three Duralasts should be a bit over $300.

Pierce
Pierce and Gaylie Stewart
'93 U300/36 WTBI
Detroit 6V-92TA Jake
1140 watts on the roof
SBFD (ret)

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Reply #4
Freightliner has had their group 31 start batteries on sale for $70: Houston Freightliner: XHD31C 1,000 CCA 69.95ea
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
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Reply #5
Every Foretravel unihome and unicoach made had optima agm l batteries in them new.  And gels for the house.

Yes it's more money.  Are you a price or quality buyer?
"Riding and rejoicing"
Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

1095 watts solar
08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4

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Reply #6
Every Foretravel unihome and unicoach made had optima gel batteries in them new.  And gels for the house.

Yes it's more money.  Are you a price or quality buyer?
Quality buyer. That's why I buy Duralasts. I remember someone bemoaning the fact that our coaches skimped on the chassis rustproofing.

P
Pierce and Gaylie Stewart
'93 U300/36 WTBI
Detroit 6V-92TA Jake
1140 watts on the roof
SBFD (ret)

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Reply #7
Every Foretravel unihome and unicoach made had optima gel batteries in them new.  And gels for the house.
Yes it's more money.  Are you a price or quality buyer?

If you go to the optima website you will find they only make agm batteries, not gel.
Jim C.
coachfree, previous 1997, 1999, 2000, and 2003 Foretravels.

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Reply #8
David,

A newly overhauled engine is always tight which makes cranking

more difficult. This can make a good battery seem not as strong.

You might want to have the batteries checked before purchasing

new ones.

Carter-

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Reply #9
Yes changed my post to Agm
"Riding and rejoicing"
Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

1095 watts solar
08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4

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Quality buyer. That's why I buy Duralasts. I remember someone bemoaning the fact that our coaches skimped on the chassis rustproofing.

P
Duralast has a very good rating. Do a search on "optima quality", it would be my last choice.
Jim C.
coachfree, previous 1997, 1999, 2000, and 2003 Foretravels.

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What year did they stop using 8D batteries?
Scott Cook
1991 U300 36' 6V92TA
Old Town Penobscot 16
1984 Honda VF1100C (V65 Magna)

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Reply #12
I was not able to fit 31s in my rack. I measured because I wanted to go with commercial batteries vs automotive. 24 takes up the full width.
95 U300SE

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Reply #13
Commercial 31s are a tiny bit wider but about an inch longer. Capacity will be about 80Ah for a 24 but 125Ah for a 31 series. A pretty big advantage. The commercial warranty is usually not as long but that's just a competitive thing for manufactures vying for sales in the automotive battery market. They have the added advantage of a little more distance between the plates and the bottom of the battery so as the battery ages, the deteriorating plate material can't bridge the gap between the battery bottom and the plates above shorting the battery.

Battery quality can usually be determined by weight. For a determined DIYer, the rack may be modified so they will fit. Three good quality 24 series should start a 9 or 10 liter diesel in sub-freeing weather. Naturally, a 31 series has a lot more in reserve. One 8D can't match three 31s but two 8D really rule.

Pierce
Pierce and Gaylie Stewart
'93 U300/36 WTBI
Detroit 6V-92TA Jake
1140 watts on the roof
SBFD (ret)

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I bought my last set of Red Tops at Amazon - cheapest price I could find (and they were recent with free shipping) - Then I took my old ones back to Napa and got money for them...
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Titusville, FL - The Great Outdoors
'98 270 buying this month
Toad is a 2018 F150 XLT

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Reply #15
Pulled the batteries out last night, cleaned them off and found that they are from O'Reilly's. We had to go to Buffalo today, so I took the batteries along. Fortunately I asked for them to test them first. All three tested fine. Young eyes found a date code - batteries were made just before we bought the coach. I was told I can expect seven years (!) out of these, and some people have gotten 12. Guess I'll put them back in after supper. Since we didn't have to buy three batteries we decided to splurge and get a couple of Orange Julius drinks instead. Much cheaper and certainly tastier.

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Pulled the batteries out last night

Why did you pull them?  ???  Can you not monitor both battery banks?
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Reply #17
seven years is average as long as your batteries arent abused ( left dead, deep cycled, overcharged, etc). Ten to twelve is exceptional.
95 U300SE

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Mike, I assumed that I would have to replace them, so I may as well take them with me when we went into town. Yes, putting a meter on each bank is pretty easy, once all my joints are creaking together in harmony.

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We replaced all three Redtops this trip in Savannah at O'Reillys for $680. They did the install! Store manager pitched in. When the last battery came out, it was a 2011 and the other two were early 2012. (That date seems like yesterday...but, time flies.) We are now fresh as a daisy and we know what we have on board.

I did get the "Click Click Click" the day before. The "Boost" allowed an almost instant start up. The day we made the purchase, the boost was not as forceful, but we got up and running to the O'Reilly store. They get good marks for service from me!
Paul & Kathleen
1995 U320c SE 40'
Build 4681 --Cummins M11 /17511
"That Irish Girl"
Red MINI " 40"

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Reply #20
Lots of ten to twelve year oem red top batteries posts here
"Riding and rejoicing"
Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

1095 watts solar
08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4

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Reply #21
I had yellow tops.. will they be sufficient ? Was going to put 3 in. I already have them

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Reply #22
Yellow tops were OEM in my 2001 U320.  I replaced mine with yellowtops in 2011.  Still strong.
Roger Engdahl and Susan Green
2001 U320 3610 #5879 (Home2) - 2014 Jeep Cherokee or 2018 F150
Hastings, MN

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Reply #23
Are yellow tops / red tops a specific model or do they come in different sizes ?
Jimmy
2003 U295 3620

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Reply #24
Three Autozone Duralast 34 series in September of 2009. Still starts like the day I put them in with no boost on the 9 liter Detroit. $300 for all three in '09. Trickle charge them at 13.1 volts

Pierce
Pierce and Gaylie Stewart
'93 U300/36 WTBI
Detroit 6V-92TA Jake
1140 watts on the roof
SBFD (ret)