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VMSpc & M11 Celect Plus question

1998 U-320 with M11 Celect Plus

Searched the archives here, and on the Silverleaf site. 

I've seen posts about the VMSpc software not being able to read the retarder temperature on the M11 Celect Plus engines.

Is this still the case, or have people with M11 Celect Plus engines been able to get VMSpc to display retarder temperature information?

Same question about oil pressure and temperature.  Is the M11 ECU able to provide oil pressure and oil temperature information to VMSpc?

Thank you,
Chris

Re: VMSpc & M11 Celect Plus question

Reply #1 –
Reads them all on my '99 M11 Celect Plus

Re: VMSpc & M11 Celect Plus question

Reply #2 –
Read them on my coaches too.
2025 Wanderbox Outpost 32 on F600 Expedition Motorhome
2015 Born Free Royal Splendor on Ford 550 nonslide version  for sale
Former Coaches  covering. 360,000 miles
1999 34 U270
2000 36 U320
2001 42' double slide U320
2018 Jeep Rubicon

Re: VMSpc & M11 Celect Plus question

Reply #3 –
Chris,
You can also use the ScanGauge D for a lot less $$ than the SilverLeaf.

» ScanGauge D

They have it for sale at PPL Motorhomes.
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John M.
John & Carm Morales

"We travel not to go anywhere, but to just go.  We travel for travel's sake.  Our great desire is to move."

Re: VMSpc & M11 Celect Plus question

Reply #4 –
Thank you for the replies confirming VMSpc and the M11

Quote from: John Morales –
Chris,
You can also use the ScanGauge D for a lot less $$ than the SilverLeaf.

» ScanGauge D

They have it for sale at PPL Motorhomes.
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John M.

John,

Thank you.  Yes I have been looking at both.  I've used the ScanGauge II on a Sprinter based coach and loved it. 

What I like about the ScanGauge D is the smaller size, less cabling and devices, and not needing a power cable.  But... there is less confirmed information about what gauges it will report with the M11 Celect Plus.

I called the folks at ScanGauge and asked if the ScanGauge D would report oil pressure, oil temperature, and retarder temperature for the M11 Celect Plus

They said no to retarder temperature, but said they weren't sure about oil pressure and oil temperature for the M11 Celect Plus.

The four main gauges I am interested in having accurate readings for are:
- engine coolant temp
- transmission temp
- engine load
- retarder temp

If anyone has the ScanGauge D and the M11 Celect Plus and can verify if it shows these I would appreciate it.

I'm not interested in graphs, MPG, trip times, etc.

Chris

Re: VMSpc & M11 Celect Plus question

Reply #5 –
The rmpg function of the silverleaf over a long term looking at it and its changes helped me to diagnosis that Foretravel put in a overkill, power robbing hydraulic fan controller that was using maybe 40hp at 60 mph and 1250 rpm.

Entire industry uses a 199 degree full speed dynanetic hydraulic fan controller.

Foretravel used a 180 full on controller.

Two giant fans locked on high if the motors warm.

So what I am saying is if you are not wanting to be a student of what's happening under your hood versus do not want to know the details like most the simpler unit should be fine.

I spent $500 for the silverleaf and hp steam 11 notebook.

Best money I have spent on the coach.

Three separate trip meters I use on screen.

A 10k mile long term.  A total current trip and a reset per tank.

My two cents.

Not sure where Foretravel hooked up my trans temp gauge.  Sump or retarder.  May ask as its in the shop for the brakes
"Riding and rejoicing"
Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

1095 watts solar
08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4

Re: VMSpc & M11 Celect Plus question

Reply #6 –
The VMSpc reads them in our 1995 U320 M11.
David and Carolyn Osborn
1995 U320C SE 40' Build 4726 Feb 1995
FMCA 147762
Motorcade 17186

Re: VMSpc & M11 Celect Plus question

Reply #7 –
I have a VMSpc and a 1998 M11.  I can read oil pressure, oil temp and transmission temp.

I do not get a reading for retarder temp.  possibly I just do not have something set correctly.  I have tried the "retarder temp button, but nothing reported.

I have a scangauge D, but there is more data on VMSpc. 

Edit: I bought the scan gauge first and upgraded to VMSpc.  I would buy the VMSpc  rather than scan gauge if I did it again
1998 U320 40'
2005 GMC Yukon
MC# 17609

Re: VMSpc & M11 Celect Plus question

Reply #8 –
VMSpc should display all of these values.  The retarder temp is a standard gauge now in the latest versions. In earlier versions you have to make the gauge with the correct PID (data channel).

You have no idea what you are missing until you actually see the data.  Recent MPG helps you see the effects of wind, terrain, speed and your driving habits. It is a rolling average over several minutes so it makes more sense.

Please see VMSpc Kits for 2017- Easy to Install. Ready to Use.

Roger Engdahl and Susan Green
2001 U320 3610 #5879 (Home2) - 2014 Jeep Cherokee or 2018 F150
Hastings, MN