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My front roof box is always on?

My most consistent problem is gas. Stove works but nothing else. Half a dozen circuit boards?

Learned something new. Front a.c. is hard wired to the house batteries. Flipping switches...Turned the temp dial to heat.. Other dial off. Lost water pump, then monitor, fridge, led lights, and finally everything after 4 hours. Disconnected batteries. Charged them. Half way through pulled out the heat gun.. Front a/c unit showing 70 on an overcast 60 day. The temp dial on "hot" and control "off". Heat pump dial "off." ?

Oh, the rear tv is original. It won't come out without wood alteration.
Paul
'92 U300 SBID 40'  #3968 "Large Marge"
Detroit Diesel 6v92TA & Allison HT746
'09 Mini Clubman w/ manual 6spd @ 39 mpg

Re: No gas.. more veggies?

Reply #1
Your A/C can't be hardwired to the battery. It is 120 volt ac.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

Re: No gas.. more veggies?

Reply #2
Disconnected from shore. It's on the batt or what then?
Paul
'92 U300 SBID 40'  #3968 "Large Marge"
Detroit Diesel 6v92TA & Allison HT746
'09 Mini Clubman w/ manual 6spd @ 39 mpg

Re: No gas.. more veggies?

Reply #3
disconnected from shore generator only.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

Re: No gas.. more veggies?

Reply #4
My inverter is on even though it says it's off? Generator is off, everything is off...
Paul
'92 U300 SBID 40'  #3968 "Large Marge"
Detroit Diesel 6v92TA & Allison HT746
'09 Mini Clubman w/ manual 6spd @ 39 mpg

Re: No gas.. more veggies?

Reply #5
Paully, you might get more assistance if your thread title and post was more descriptive.  ;D
1993 U300 40ft GV SE
Build # 4344


Re: Electrical surprise and no LP

Reply #7
So I'm blackballed for not knowing much? Seems like a bunch of y'all are former employees and drivers. I'm not a bad guy, young and inexperienced perhaps, but that will change.
Paul
'92 U300 SBID 40'  #3968 "Large Marge"
Detroit Diesel 6v92TA & Allison HT746
'09 Mini Clubman w/ manual 6spd @ 39 mpg

Re: Electrical surprise and almost no LP

Reply #8
Paully,no one is blackballying you,they are trying to get more info so we/they can help you.Read your first post,I read it a few
times and your jumping all over the place,take a breath and ask your questions and try and explain the problems you will get
help.
96 U270 BUILD 4810
85 380SL
Drummonds TN.

Re: Electrical surprise and almost no LP

Reply #9
I don't think you have a heat pump maybe you have heat strips in the a/c. When you say the inverter is on even though it says off, the inverter part of the panel can be off but the charging system would still be on. If you don't have a manual for the inverter they can be downloaded on the net for free. You need to separate your problems into different posts to get the best response.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

Re: Electrical surprise and almost no LP

Reply #10
ok sorry... it was after a day without power. Rather than "tweeting" i tried to summarize.

What I experienced was the front a/c was turned to heat but still "off" and it slowly caused system shutdown and ultimately fail. No fun. It took me a day and a half to figure out what happened and why, and to recharge the house batteries.
Paul
'92 U300 SBID 40'  #3968 "Large Marge"
Detroit Diesel 6v92TA & Allison HT746
'09 Mini Clubman w/ manual 6spd @ 39 mpg

Re: Electrical surprise and almost no LP

Reply #11
The front a/c is not original... the dial on the wall that says "heat pump" is original. You're the second person to tell me I don't have a heat pump. As best I can tell the inverter is off. Thanks for the manual reminder. I didn't know what to look up as things were dyeing one by one...

When i turn the heat pump temperature dial up and turn the kitchen exhaust to fan to either low or high, the front box produces heat. I figured that out playing around the other day. What fouled up the coach was that the front box also makes heat simply with the temperature dial turned to red. ? is that normal?
Paul
'92 U300 SBID 40'  #3968 "Large Marge"
Detroit Diesel 6v92TA & Allison HT746
'09 Mini Clubman w/ manual 6spd @ 39 mpg

Re: Electrical surprise and almost no LP

Reply #12
Do you have the manual for the A/C? If not download one of them also. If someone wired your A/C through the inverter it would explain some of your issues and it needs to be corrected. You do not have enough batteries or a large enough inverter do have it wired that way. Can you take a picture of the dial that says heat pump? If someone else here can say if heat pumps came on a '93 it would help.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

Re: My front roof box is always on?

Reply #13
I have a '93 U300 Paully. No heat pumps, but my AC's are original and they do have heat strips. They do have heat strips. The heat/ac has nothing to do with the exhaust fan in the kitchen. The AC's run on 110, the exhaust fan runs on 12V.

1993 U300 40ft GV SE
Build # 4344

Re: My front roof box is always on?

Reply #14
Ok.. No heat pump. But my Kool-O-matic works like one. Working on uploading a pic..
Paul
'92 U300 SBID 40'  #3968 "Large Marge"
Detroit Diesel 6v92TA & Allison HT746
'09 Mini Clubman w/ manual 6spd @ 39 mpg

Re: My front roof box is always on?

Reply #15
I give up.

New phone and a new house. I took a pic but I can't get it to upload. There's a lot going on and I can't figure it out. I've been a hermit for years. I'm trying
Paul
'92 U300 SBID 40'  #3968 "Large Marge"
Detroit Diesel 6v92TA & Allison HT746
'09 Mini Clubman w/ manual 6spd @ 39 mpg

Re: My front roof box is always on?

Reply #16
Ok.. No heat pump. But my Kool-O-matic works like one. Working on uploading a pic..

The fan just sucks air out of the coach. The thermostat you see is just an auto on feature. Once the temp hits the set temp it turns on automatically...no cooling or heating involved...just air from the coach being pushed outside.

It works great as a 'whole house fan' and can be used instead of AC. Just crack open a couple of window, the fan gets the air circulating....perfect for boon-docking in warm weather.
1993 U300 40ft GV SE
Build # 4344

Re: My front roof box is always on?

Reply #17
Really. So the temperature dial is the trigger for the fan...

I still don't understand why turning the temperature dial on the roof box turns it on.

Thank you for the answers. I am overwhelmed with everything. A bunch of campers showed up. I said hi to one guy parking.. he moved farther away.
Paul
'92 U300 SBID 40'  #3968 "Large Marge"
Detroit Diesel 6v92TA & Allison HT746
'09 Mini Clubman w/ manual 6spd @ 39 mpg

Re: My front roof box is always on?

Reply #18
switch is a thermostat - ffan comes on at temps higher than set on the switch, overnight as temps decrease, the fan will quit when it reaches the temp set on switch

Used to cool coach when nights are cool, but not get too cold as outside temps continue to drop

At least that is how mine works

Tim Fiedler

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Re: My front roof box is always on?

Reply #19
The thermostat for the koolamatic fan should be located on the wall about 1 foot below the ceiling fairly close to the fan. I don't know where the thermostat for the ac is located, maybe on the face of the cabinets. That is where they were when the coach was built if I remember right. The ac should not be wired to run off the inverter. If it does that must be changed.
previous 1984 35 ft ORED 250 HP 3208 Cat       
previous 1998 40 ft U295 CAI 325 hp Cummins
previous 2003 40 Ft u320 build #6140 450 Cummins M11.                                                         
1999 Mazda Miata
Ron, Nancy, Tipper the cat, Max The dog
1997 U 270 36 ft build number 5174 8.3 Cummins

Re: My front roof box is always on?

Reply #20
It's already cold here. I turned the a/c on to check it. However, the heating element is wired in. The on/off controls the fan. But the element is always hot...
Paul
'92 U300 SBID 40'  #3968 "Large Marge"
Detroit Diesel 6v92TA & Allison HT746
'09 Mini Clubman w/ manual 6spd @ 39 mpg

Re: My front roof box is always on?

Reply #21
Paully, If your coach runs fine, you might want to go check out another similar Foretravel for sale by an owner who has had it for awhile and ask a lot of questions. I wouldn't have a problem with a person doing that if I was selling mine.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

Re: My front roof box is always on?

Reply #22
There is something wrong wit that. and you say that you are not plugged into 120 volts ac.
previous 1984 35 ft ORED 250 HP 3208 Cat       
previous 1998 40 ft U295 CAI 325 hp Cummins
previous 2003 40 Ft u320 build #6140 450 Cummins M11.                                                         
1999 Mazda Miata
Ron, Nancy, Tipper the cat, Max The dog
1997 U 270 36 ft build number 5174 8.3 Cummins

Re: My front roof box is always on?

Reply #23
Thanks Tim. I was using it to heat the coach... I thought. I'm lucky I didn't burn it down.
Paul
'92 U300 SBID 40'  #3968 "Large Marge"
Detroit Diesel 6v92TA & Allison HT746
'09 Mini Clubman w/ manual 6spd @ 39 mpg

Re: My front roof box is always on?

Reply #24
No no everything is plugged in now and has been. I just can't turn the front box dial without draining coach
Paul
'92 U300 SBID 40'  #3968 "Large Marge"
Detroit Diesel 6v92TA & Allison HT746
'09 Mini Clubman w/ manual 6spd @ 39 mpg