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2002 G320 versus U320 - what's the difference

I see a 2002 "G320" (model 4020) for sale on the Foretravel factory website. Foretravel Motorcoach - 2002 Foretravel 4020 G320

I've been reading about, and searching for the "U320" model - and I'm not familiar with the "G". I think this "G320" is a "GV320" (Grand Villa) as there are no "G320" specs on this page. Foretravel Specifications, Floor Plans, Photos & Brochures by Year

On the "Foretravel History" page Foretravel's Company History it says for 2002 only 3 "speical order" Grand Villa Unicoaches where produced. I'm probably misunderstanding the statement. Maybe the Coach I looking at is something different (not a special order).

What is the difference (other than floorplan) between a Grand Villa and a regular "U320"?

Is a "G320" and a "GV320" the same? Is a "Grand Villa" and "Grand Villa Unibody" the same thing?

Do they use the same chassis and engine/transmission?

I thought I was beginning to understand these Foretravel MHs, but this has me confused. Thanks for your help.

Re: 2002 G320 versus U320 - what's the difference

Reply #1 –
I have a 03/GV295. Grand Villa is mid door entry and front, windshield is slanted back. Look at the pictures, other than that, engine, trany, etc is same for the most part.  Mine was a custom order, but then again I believe lot of the FTs were made to order. I am not 100% sure but I think GV production was ended at the end of 2002.
Former 2003 GV U295 (6230) (2015 - 2025)
Former 94 GV U225 (2013-2016)

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Reply #2 –
Quote from: propman –
I have a 03/GV295. Grand Villa is mid door entry and front, windshield is slanted back.

Thanks.

I like the location of the door (mid coach) and the slanted windshield.  Do you think it would be more difficult to get a replacement windshield for a GV?

Also I think the GV has a "door" for toilet area, whereas on the "U" the open toilet room has no door, so the doors to bedroom and living area need to both be closed for privacy (although there may be other floor plans on the "U"s that differ. I'm still learning).

Re: 2002 G320 versus U320 - what's the difference

Reply #3 –
Quote from: CountryB –
Do you think it would be more difficult to get a replacement windshield for a GV?

Also I think the GV has a "door" for toilet area, whereas on the "U" the open toilet room has no door, so the doors to bedroom and living area need to both be closed for privacy (although there may be other floor plans on the "U"s that differ. I'm still learning).
Don't know about the GV320 windshield availability/cost.  Might be a good thing to ask the parts guys at FOT - they could tell you.

As to floor plans, there are a good number of them found in the "U" models.  Availability was often dependent on model year, trim level and length of coach.  Some have the "private" toilet space, some don't.  Every floor plan has plus and minus features...each buyer has to decide what is most important to them.
1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
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Re: 2002 G320 versus U320 - what's the difference

Reply #4 –
We had to have a windshield replaced last summer on our 1993 GV. No problem in getting one.

Foretravel brought out the Unicoach in 1995. For a year or two you could get either a Unihome (aka Grand Villa) or a Unicoach (bus style). After that it was all flat face, front entry coaches unless you were willing to special order a GV. That was basically a standard U320 (Unicoach) with the GV front cap and a slightly different floor plan because of the mid entry of the GV. Otherwise, the coach you are looking at is a 2002 U320.

Re: 2002 G320 versus U320 - what's the difference

Reply #5 –
Just an FYI on that coach, a friend looked real hard at that one and it needed alot off work to the tune of 15 k buyer beware.do your homework.
Andy & Eileen
MONTROSE COLORADO
1992 U300  40' 6V92 TA
2016 4 Runner
1998 Jeep Grand cherokee

1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee) Build # 4135 Skp# 122921

Re: 2002 G320 versus U320 - what's the difference

Reply #6 –
The GV320s that I have seen do not have front overhead cabinets, for some a loss of useful storage.
Roger Engdahl and Susan Green
2001 U320 3610 #5879 (Home2) - 2014 Jeep Cherokee or 2018 F150
Hastings, MN

Re: 2002 G320 versus U320 - what's the difference

Reply #7 –
The GV looks cooler. :)
Husband & Wife Team. 3 Kids. 8 yo boy, 4 yo girl, 19 mth girl. Mostly Finished Renovating 1986 Grand Villa 3300 GVF SBI for a multi year trip around the country with the kids.

Re: 2002 G320 versus U320 - what's the difference

Reply #8 –
Quote from: AKATheAlchemist –
The GV looks cooler. :)
I have met FT bus owners that admitted our GV was the best looking coach FT ever did!  ^.^d
1993 U-240 "La Villa Grande"..CAT 3116 w/ Pacbrake PRXB...Allison 3060 6-speed..
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Re: 2002 G320 versus U320 - what's the difference

Reply #9 –
Quote from: Andy 2 –
Just an FYI on that coach, a friend looked real hard at that one and it needed alot off work to the tune of 15 k buyer beware.do your homework.
Kim and I also looked at that coach (along with the salesman who seemed bothered by us looking at the USED coaches...).  It did indeed need a lot of work, did not look like it had been taken care of and they wouldn't budge on the price.  Really disappointing as I love the Grand Villas and had high hopes for it...
Bill Jackson & Kim Sweeney
2013 27' Lazy Daze RK
2002 U320 PBDS 36' Build 5941 (Sold)
1999 U320 40' (Sold)
2005 Country Coach Intrigue 40' (Sold)

Re: 2002 G320 versus U320 - what's the difference

Reply #10 –
Quote from: Bill & Kim –
Kim and I also looked at that coach (along with the salesman who seemed bothered by us looking at the USED coaches...).  It did indeed need a lot of work, did not look like it had been taken care of and they wouldn't budge on the price.  Really disappointing as I love the Grand Villas and had high hopes for it...

That's disappointing. I love the look of that particular coach. I'd totally buy a GV like that. Would be a perfect upgrade from our front engine gasser GV.

What kind of work does it need?
Husband & Wife Team. 3 Kids. 8 yo boy, 4 yo girl, 19 mth girl. Mostly Finished Renovating 1986 Grand Villa 3300 GVF SBI for a multi year trip around the country with the kids.

Re: 2002 G320 versus U320 - what's the difference

Reply #11 –
Quote from: AKATheAlchemist –
That's disappointing. I love the look of that particular coach. I'd totally buy a GV like that. Would be a perfect upgrade from our front engine gasser GV.

What kind of work does it need? 
As I recall on the exterior, there was some delimitation and other rough areas, needed new tires, new air bags.  The interior had a lot of wear, loose panels - what appeared to be a considerable amount of "lack of maintenance" that over time, stacked up.  Left me with the impression that what I can see looked poor, what's under the skin could be worse.  For the life of me, I can't recall mechanical issues on it. 

We'd came up to Nac specifically to look at that coach and a few others.  I was open to bringing a coach "up-to-date" and repairing usual stuff but this coach seemed like it could be a bottomless pit.  FoT has had it on their lot for quite some time...
Bill Jackson & Kim Sweeney
2013 27' Lazy Daze RK
2002 U320 PBDS 36' Build 5941 (Sold)
1999 U320 40' (Sold)
2005 Country Coach Intrigue 40' (Sold)

Re: 2002 G320 versus U320 - what's the difference

Reply #12 –
Being it has been on the lot for some time a lower price might be accepted making it a decent buy. It is 15 years old also it's going to have a few bruises.
91 GV U300 Unihome 40' Build 3811
6V92TA Detroit

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Reply #13 –
Noting that it's a 40' U320 (ISM 450) with 2 slides yet no tag axle, it would be prudent to get axle weights on this coach if you were considering it.
Learn every day, but especially from the experiences of others. It's cheaper!  - John C. Bogle

2000 U320 36' non-slide / WildEBeest Rescue
2003 U320

Re: 2002 G320 versus U320 - what's the difference

Reply #14 –
Quote from: Michelle –
Noting that it's a 40' U320 (ISM 450) with 2 slides yet no tag axle, it would be prudent to get axle weights on this coach if you were considering it.
Perfect application for a Sleep Number air mattress filled with helium.
1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
"Nature abhors a vacuum"