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Grand Villa Identification Points

Given my obsession with vehicle identification when I was in the Army, it is probably inevitable that I would try to figure out the best ID methods for the various versions of the 1986 to 1995 Grand Villas.  Based on photos from the net so far I have this:

Individual sealed beam headlights, 1986 to 1988.
Composite headlights, 1989 and up.

Inverted (Isuzu?) taillights, 1986 to 1994
Wrap around (Ford?) taillights, 1995 and up.

OREDs and OREGs, bottom hinge cargo doors with handles on top.

Unihomes, top hinge cargo doors, with handles on the bottom.

U280/U300 The body line below grill and headlights and at top of cargo doors is even with top of wheel openings.

ORED/OREG U225/U240 The body line below grill and headlights and at top of cargo doors splits wheel openings.

Double stacked metal bumpers, 1986-1990 U280/U300

Single stack metal bumper, 1986-1990 ORED, OREG, or U225/U240

Plastic/fiberglass bumper 1991 and up, all models.

Narrow spacer between grill openings, narrow body.

Wide spacer between grill openings, wide body.

I have noticed some OREDs have 8 lug wheels, others have 10, even in the same year, but I am not sure why.  I also can't find any method of separating U225s from U240s, or separating the bigger U280s from the U300s.  Are there external clues to this?

Anyway, does this look like an accurate breakdown, or what needs correction?  I realize there is going to be some variation due to custom orders or later modifications.  It is not quite as cut and dried as a Soviet T-72 versus an American M60A3.
Mike & Lilli
1991 GV U280 36' SBI, 3208 Cat, Build #3825
4320 Watts Solar
Kansas City, MO

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Reply #1
OK Mike, I want you on any treasure hunt team I am ever on......

bet you were very good at the "find the 10 things different in these two pictures" challenges as well

Tim Fiedler

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Reply #2
That pretty well sums it up. Ored 300 hp units have side radiator. DD 8.2 I think are 8 bolt wheels.
Old Phart Phred, EIEIO
89 GV ored 36' #3405 300 hp cat 3208 ATAAC side radiator, mountain tamer exhaust brake

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Reply #3
What Phred said--DD 8.2 eight (8) bolt wheels
Nitehawk,  Demolition Lady, & our NEW master, Zippy the speeding BB cat.
1989 Grand Villa 36' ORED
Oshkosh chassis, 8.2 DD V8
2006 Saturn Vue AWD

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Reply #4
Something that comes to mind the difference between a U280 and U300 would be exhaust pipe If someone has not altered.

 U280 -  4" tail pipe for 3208 Cat and 8.3 Cummins
 
 U300 -  5" tail pipe for  6v-92 Detroit and M11 Cummins.
Doug W.
96 36' U270 CSGI #4946
04 Toyota Tacoma 4x4
PNW

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Reply #5
5" exhaust pipe on my 300 horsepower 3208 cat, it appears to be OEM.
Old Phart Phred, EIEIO
89 GV ored 36' #3405 300 hp cat 3208 ATAAC side radiator, mountain tamer exhaust brake

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Reply #6
At least some of the 270/295 8.3's had a 5 inch exhaust from the muffler, and from turbo to muffler, 4 inch. Think this was probably a cost saving measure by Foretravel, because ism was 5 inch from turbo, and 5 inch from muffler, so they could use same muffler and tailpipe on both.
Jim C.
coachfree, previous 1997, 1999, 2000, and 2003 Foretravels.

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Reply #7
Single stainless steel bumpers on our 91 ORED.  Have a great day  ----  Fritz
Fritz & Kathy Johnson
1991 36'

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Reply #8
5" exhaust pipe on my 300 horsepower 3208 cat, it appears to be OEM.

I don't think a 300hp 3208 Cat was ever offered on  U280.
Doug W.
96 36' U270 CSGI #4946
04 Toyota Tacoma 4x4
PNW