New Steering Wheel

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New Steering Wheel

January 14, 2018, 09:38:51 am

Got a chance to install one of my Christmas gifts this weekend. The old one is available if anyone is interested.
FYI- Found a way to light the Smart Wheel buttons, without replacing the steering column. Details will be posted when the project is complete.

Bob

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Reply #1 – January 14, 2018, 01:00:02 pm

Nice !!!

I wonder if that would fit on an older Foretravel? say 1994 U300 Did you get it from the factory or supplier? Aprox. cost?

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Reply #2 – January 14, 2018, 02:29:29 pm

The new wheel was approx $290 directly from VIP. I'm not sure what you have. Maybe someone on the forum will let you know.

Bob

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Reply #3 – January 14, 2018, 03:45:41 pm

Would love this upgrade.
More information please! Did you do the install yourself? We have a '98 U320. Is VIP a on-line supply company?

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Reply #4 – January 14, 2018, 03:49:20 pm

VIP= Vehicle Improvement Products

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Reply #5 – January 14, 2018, 04:41:18 pm

Bill & Jan,

Contact VIP and tell them what you have. I'm fairly certain that you would be able to upgrade, but doubtful that you have the correct steering column to illuminate the Smart Wheel Buttons. I included a picture of the original steering wheel. Yes, I did the install myself.

Bob

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Reply #6 – January 14, 2018, 04:48:17 pm

I do not think a 94 u300 has the same column with steering wheel buttons. 97 and 98 had the non light up button steering wheel. 99 had the powered column to furnish the light up buttons and the rearranged buttons with a clear protector over the buttins

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Reply #7 – January 14, 2018, 09:54:39 pm

They may have changed to the newer style steering wheel and column some time in 99' but ours (1999 U270, build number 5402) had the older style smart wheel and the SM203 IPX master wiper control (controls cruise control, wipers, flash). I know that Dave Katsuki who has a 99' U270 and is build number 5484 is likewise equipped. We have both changed to the newer style VIP Smartwheel PC217L. As far as I know, there is no way to have backlit buttons on our wheels. Would love to find out otherwise! Even without the backlight, the VIP Smartwheel PC217L is one of the best upgrades for the buck as far as driving pleasure.
Don

Quote from: Caflashbob – January 14, 2018, 04:48:17 pm

I do not think a 94 u300 has the same column with steering wheel buttons. 97 and 98 had the non light up button steering wheel. 99 had the powered column to furnish the light up buttons and the rearranged buttons with a clear protector over the buttins

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Reply #8 – January 14, 2018, 10:10:47 pm

This is the steering wheel on my '99 but it doesn't light up.
Wish it did as the braille system is a pain at night.

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Reply #9 – January 23, 2018, 09:30:53 pm

Quote from: craneman – January 14, 2018, 10:10:47 pm

This is the steering wheel on my '99 but it doesn't light up.
Wish it did as the braille system is a pain at night.

Have the same upgrade on our 97. I too wish it lit up.

Chris

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Reply #10 – January 23, 2018, 10:03:05 pm

Quote from: craneman – January 14, 2018, 10:10:47 pm

This is the steering wheel on my '99 but it doesn't light up.

Looks exactly like my 2000 model.

Trent

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Reply #11 – January 23, 2018, 10:03:50 pm

Does yours light up?

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Reply #12 – January 23, 2018, 10:07:33 pm

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Reply #13 – January 23, 2018, 10:09:37 pm

Like others for the last few years I have been wishing it lit up. Slowly memorizing the buttons location.

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Reply #14 – January 24, 2018, 07:46:19 am

I am in the final stages of completing my lighted steering wheel conversion. I will be powering my wheel with an Admiral 1000mAh 3S 11.1V 30C LiPo Battery with JST Connector. It tucks under the wheel out of sight. Admiral 1000mAh 3S 11.1V 30C LiPo Battery w/ JST EPR10003J – Motion RC For those who are interested in doing the same, there are several potential ways to accomplish it. The first step is to remove at least one of the button panels. Remove four screws and disconnect the plug. The button cover will peel off the housing, exposing the PC board. Inspect the board for two led's. If you are not sure what you are looking at, post a picture and I will let you know what I see. You may not have the led's.
I was told by VIP engineering that in the past, they sent out conversion wheels with lighting based on whether or not the model coach had the provision for powering the led's. They now send out all wheels with lighting to avoid extra inventory.

To be continued
Bob

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Reply #15 – January 28, 2018, 02:03:49 am

Quote from: Don & Tys (AKA acousticart) – January 14, 2018, 09:54:39 pm

As far as I know, there is no way to have backlit buttons on our wheels. Would love to find out otherwise! Even without the backlight, the VIP Smartwheel PC217L is one of the best upgrades for the buck as far as driving pleasure.
Don

Yep, I checked into getting backlights working on our conversion, and found I would have to change the steering column, so abandoned that idea. Luckily we seldom drive at night, so not much of a problem, but I would love to find a way...

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Reply #16 – January 28, 2018, 02:07:06 am

Quote from: Bob Rozek – January 24, 2018, 07:46:19 am

I am in the final stages of completing my lighted steering wheel conversion. I will be powering my wheel with an Admiral 1000mAh 3S 11.1V 30C LiPo Battery with JST Connector. It tucks under the wheel out of sight. Admiral 1000mAh 3S 11.1V 30C LiPo Battery w/ JST EPR10003J – Motion RC For those who are interested in doing the same, there are several potential ways to accomplish it. ...

Are you charging the battery from the control lines? What turns it on/off?

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Reply #17 – January 28, 2018, 07:06:42 am

Dave,
The battery pack is removable for charging. SkyRC e3 11W 3 Cell (3S) Compact AC LiPo Battery Charger – Motion RC It tucks up under the steering wheel. The lights will be started with a momentary push button switch.
I am hoping to wrap things up this week and will post pics of the completed project.
Did you check to see if the led's are there?

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Reply #18 – January 28, 2018, 02:28:43 pm

Bob, I just took one of the panels off S Wheel and I have room for 2 lights I guess as there are contacts there at the 2 spaces between buttons. I looked at the rubber panel into light and sure enough I can see the lines of the wiper function buttons, and by putting a flashlite behind the panel it all lites up. Perfect, so were do I get the "bulbs"?? you have already posted the battery pack so just need hooking up info.
Thanks
JohnH

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Reply #19 – January 28, 2018, 02:30:45 pm

Craneman, yours is the same as mine and to me looks like you can do it too. Take one of the side panels off as Bob mentions and remove silicone cover and put a flashlite behind it.
JohnH

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Reply #20 – January 28, 2018, 02:51:17 pm

Thanks John I will check it out.

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Reply #21 – January 28, 2018, 03:43:09 pm

John,
Are you sure that the led's are not there? They are very small. There are other options but utilizing what's there is the easiest. Can you take a picture of the PC board.

Bob

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Reply #22 – January 28, 2018, 05:09:04 pm

Bob, took it out again to take picture.
Does not look like any there to me.
JohnH

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Reply #23 – January 28, 2018, 07:56:49 pm

I won't bother taking mine apart as yours is newer than mine.

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Reply #24 – January 28, 2018, 08:47:41 pm

John,
Looks like you got your wheel before they standardized on the lighted button circuit boards. The new boards come with two
3 VDC led's in series and a resistor on - side. This arrangement is necessary to operate on a 12 VDC system. My conversion utilized the provided led's by cutting the necessary harness wires and tying them to a timer/relay which is initiated with a momentary push button. When I am complete I will program the timer for a two-hour interval. If the need arises after that, tap the button and off you go for another two hours. The timer is in the circuit to make sure is secured after the sun comes up, as it would be very easy to overlook. Lipo's should never be discharged below 80% of capacity.

If it were me I would check with VIP and see how much replacement boards are. I have micro led's that I intended on using until I found they were already there. They are difficult but not impossible to work with. You would also have to provide resistors at each location.

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