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luminescent dash

What is the construction of the dash panels?

Is it some paint over aluminum?

In the video when I rub my finger over the burnt area you can see a small white spark I tried to scrape the gold color away with my fingernail but it still seems to be shorting to something?  :o

http://photos.smugmug.com/Foretravel/Forums-post/i-rGVGMMF/0/a0989703/1280/20180216_125517-1280.mp4

Steve

1997 U270 36' build 5179
Motorcade #18147
1980 CJ5

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Time for Silverleaf to be installed

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$5k?  I actually like the analog red needle dash and it's gauges  location just below your sight line myself.

I looked at flyte10's  silverleaf  dash.  Really nice.  Almost crashed 30 years ago in a new 40' bird looking down and playing with the dash stuff. 
"Riding and rejoicing"
Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

1095 watts solar
08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4

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I'm not sure of the material of the dash, but the "gold color" is supposed to illuminate.
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Thanks David but I dont think Silverleaf will do my old coach much good as I dont have a lot of computer stuff on it, its still old school  :)
Steve

1997 U270 36' build 5179
Motorcade #18147
1980 CJ5

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I'm not sure of the material of the dash, but the "gold color" is supposed to illuminate.
Thanks Siren, yes the gold still lights up on, well except for that one spot.

I just want to keep if from sparking, but it is sort of cool looking at night when it sparks  :))
Steve

1997 U270 36' build 5179
Motorcade #18147
1980 CJ5

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I think it is not a short, but a bad connection. Try this paint I have used it to repair circuit boards.

Electric Paint 10ml - Bare Conductive
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prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
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I think it is not a short, but a bad connection. Try this paint I have use it to repair circuit boards.
Thanks craneman I will give it a try.  I just ordered it from a place in Colorado.
Steve

1997 U270 36' build 5179
Motorcade #18147
1980 CJ5

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Wow! Love it lit up! My doesn't do that anymore! Would love to get that restored/functioning again!
1996 36' U295 Build #4879 Motorcade #18088
2007 Jeep Liberty 4x4 FMCA #F474816
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Alas, the 96' Unicoach dashes don't have the electroluminescent feature, even though they look the same at first glance. On the other hand, you don't have to worry about destroying its functionality by making a custom cut out for a gauge or monitor. I suppose there may be a few late 96' builds that had already transitioned to the EL dash as I believe that the 97's are so equipped.
Don
Wow! Love it lit up! My doesn't do that anymore! Would love to get that restored/functioning again!
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1999 U270 3602 WTFE #5402
Xtreme Stage 1 w/Headlight, Step Conversion, etc.
2009 Honda Fit Sport with Navi
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Alas, the 96' Unicoach dashes don't have the electroluminescent feature, even though they look the same at first glance. On the other hand, you don't have to worry about destroying its functionality by making a custom cut out for a gauge or monitor. I suppose there may be a few late 96' builds that had already transitioned to the EL dash as I believe that the 97's are so equipped.
Don

Bummer!
1996 36' U295 Build #4879 Motorcade #18088
2007 Jeep Liberty 4x4 FMCA #F474816
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Don, is the dash in a 2000 U320 supposed to be luminescent?
2000, U320 36' with Cummins 450, Toad - 2016 Ford CMax Energi
Previous MHs; 1970 Winnebago, 1973 FMC 2900R, much later a heavily modified 1975 FMC 2900R.

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It is standard in a '99 U320 so 2000 should be also.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
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Another thing for me to learn about and diagnose as to why my dash does not light. This is becoming a full time job.
2000, U320 36' with Cummins 450, Toad - 2016 Ford CMax Energi
Previous MHs; 1970 Winnebago, 1973 FMC 2900R, much later a heavily modified 1975 FMC 2900R.

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Ken the dash should be fitted as my 2000 is
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Thanks Siren, yes the gold still lights up on, well except for that one spot.

I just want to keep if from sparking, but it is sort of cool looking at night when it sparks  :))
I have the E.L. (Electro Luminescent) dash and when I turn it up/on to where it turns on/blue I have 2 sections that glow blue. The dash around the gauges and then to my left where the retarder and all the buttons/rocker switches are located. The dash doesn't seem to have any issues. But surrounding the rocker switches part of the EL is not glowing blue.  About a 3 inch section is dark and actually has some sparking/flickering of white light  (and a little buzzing/sizzling) happening when I turn up the knob to illuminate the rest of the dash

Is the buzzing normal?

  Is this thing toast or is there a way to fix it? 

Super8mm. Did you have any luck with the Electric Paint 10ml - Bare Conductive for a fix that Craneman recommend, and how did you fix it?

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My side panel does not light up.  Should it?
"Riding and rejoicing"
Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

1095 watts solar
08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4

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Should be aluminum under the coating
1996 U295-36, Cummins 300hp, 8.3. Build number 4864. Vin number 1F97D536XTNO54271. Purchased October 31, 2019.

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When we bought our coach 1 of the EL panels didn't work. By the time we were half way home another one failed. I really like the classy look of the EL, so plan to take a crack at fixing them. There's some good info in this thread: Log in especially posts 5 and 8, by James Stallings.
Greg & Cathy
2000 U320 4010 DGFE Build #5650
Had: 1999 Tradewinds 7370

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Hey you lucky folks with el panels, how about shooting a picture of one lit up at night?  I'm curious.
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Chuck Pearson
1996 U295
2018 Can Am X3 TurboRS

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Hey you lucky folks with el panels, how about shooting a picture of one lit up at night?  I'm curious.
I'll shoot one tonight.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
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Hey you lucky folks with el panels, how about shooting a picture of one lit up at night?  I'm curious.
Mine looks really good lit up. First time I saw it I was like, oh cool!!
Was a unexpected surprise.
'99 U320 40 WTFE
Build #5462,
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Here is a picture of mine taken while I was playing with the different color options of my Autometer fuel pressure gauge. As you can see, there are a few areas where the luminescent outlines are blotchy. It would be nice to be able to cure that, so I will be following to see if anyone has success with a fix. Aside from the outlines around the perimeter, the various HVAC controls light up. The side panel where the retarder controls etc. are located do not light up on our 99' U270. I think that similar model year U320's and U295's with the angled side console may light up, but I haven't actually seen that.
Don
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1999 U270 3602 WTFE #5402
Xtreme Stage 1 w/Headlight, Step Conversion, etc.
2009 Honda Fit Sport with Navi
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When we bought our coach 1 of the EL panels didn't work. By the time we were half way home another one failed. I really like the classy look of the EL, so plan to take a crack at fixing them. There's some good info in this thread: Log in especially posts 5 and 8, by James Stallings.

This is an important link.  Repair is a lot more complicated than just reestablishing continuity over the broken/burned area, as the strip has to be electrically isolated from the aluminum dash facia.
Brett Wolfe
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Hey you lucky folks with el panels, how about shooting a picture of one lit up at night?  I'm curious.
Here is mine.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean