Re: The Next Issue to Troubleshoot Reply #25 – April 29, 2018, 06:16:15 pm Quote from: craneman – April 29, 2018, 06:02:22 pmI think John is referring to what looks to be a oil pan bolt.Ya perspective is a "mother bear". I am not seeing the oil pan at all.In Reply #15, first picture is from below, but ABOVE the pan. Picture #2 is from above showing what I think is the thermostat housing/outlet pipe and exhaust manifold.Were I younger, I would stand on my head to see a "different perspective". Quote Selected
Re: The Next Issue to Troubleshoot Reply #26 – April 29, 2018, 06:16:34 pm Quote from: floridarandy – April 29, 2018, 05:26:21 pmWill do Brett. I know P.O. replaced it fairly soon before purchase. Can't get away just now...Talladega finish. I think that Chase E. is gonna be a force to be reckoned with in a few more races.... Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: The Next Issue to Troubleshoot Reply #27 – April 29, 2018, 06:22:14 pm Quote from: wolfe10 – April 29, 2018, 05:18:27 pmRandy,The perspective is kind of hard to make out, but is that not the upper exhaust manifold bolt for cylinder #1? Open the bed and look from the driver's side.If so, look carefully for a cracked exhaust manifold and/or leak (black soot) between head and exhaust manifold. It was checked when you bought it and no problem, but that IS an issue with the Cummins engines.Manifold bolts are in upper part of picture and do not appear loose to me. They were properly torqued to 32 ft/lbs when manifold was replaced last year. Quote Selected
Re: The Next Issue to Troubleshoot Reply #28 – April 29, 2018, 06:30:54 pm Here's a few more pics to help ID the area where I see evidence of fluid. Driver side, just behind and slightly below alternator and just in front and below turbo. Bolts not loose...must be optics in earlier pic John questioned. Quote Selected
Re: The Next Issue to Troubleshoot Reply #29 – April 29, 2018, 06:37:22 pm After a PM from John, the picture we are talking about may show the "illusion" of two issues: The upper one would be the exhaust manifold bolt, the lower one may be an oil cooler bolt.Again, very difficult to tell by remote. Quote Selected
Re: The Next Issue to Troubleshoot Reply #30 – April 29, 2018, 06:44:43 pm Thanks guys. Don't expect a diagnosis by photo. Will try and get into Cummins Tampa (power club) or a local diesel mechanic recommended by a fireman at the local fire station. Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: The Next Issue to Troubleshoot Reply #31 – April 29, 2018, 08:38:00 pm What does the mist smell like? Run a clean rag or paper towel over the mist especially an area previously cleaned.. smell like diesel? or oil.. good for started if you can tell.. clean the area where you can get a good sample and after running a few miles you get out and check wit ha clean rag or so.. then you might be able to tell what it is. Quote Selected
Re: The Next Issue to Troubleshoot Reply #33 – April 29, 2018, 09:41:39 pm Quote from: saddlesore – April 29, 2018, 06:16:34 pmI think that Chase E. is gonna be a force to be reckoned with in a few more races.... Like Dale Jr., he has the pedigree. Good race, the 'pups' are giving the old timers all they can handle theae days! Quote Selected
Re: The Next Issue to Troubleshoot Reply #34 – April 30, 2018, 09:41:54 am I had replaced the fuel filter in my duramax and about a month later it started to die randomly. Get out and pump it and it would start up and run for a while but after sitting for a few hours it wouldnt start... found the filter was loose and caused a small leak.. I would dbl check the fuel filters first wipe them off and see if any drissle is on them at all after you drive a little.. clean everything and then drive like mentioned. Quote Selected
Re: The Next Issue to Troubleshoot Reply #35 – April 30, 2018, 01:58:03 pm Well, I'm proud of myself. It may be a simple task but everything is new the first time. I changed both the primary and secondary filter's, pictures attached, and the engine actually started when I was finished. Ran for about a minute then died. I shut the ignition off waited a few minutes, switch the ignition on it's starting and running fine.I cleaned as much of the splatter as I could find from the engine and will clear by the VMSPC codes and take her out for a drive and see what happens. Stay tuned. Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: The Next Issue to Troubleshoot Reply #36 – April 30, 2018, 03:43:36 pm Quick follow up. Small oring goes on FS1022 secondary fuel filter shaft. Wasn't on previous filter installed at mot but confirmed it should be there. Removed filter and installed. Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: The Next Issue to Troubleshoot Reply #37 – April 30, 2018, 03:49:11 pm Randy, I would change where I buy my fuel. Quote Selected
Re: The Next Issue to Troubleshoot Reply #38 – April 30, 2018, 03:49:18 pm So, the fuel leak was from the secondary fuel filter? Quote Selected
Re: The Next Issue to Troubleshoot Reply #39 – April 30, 2018, 04:07:51 pm Those are some scrungey filters. Did you find the leak? Quote Selected
Re: The Next Issue to Troubleshoot Reply #41 – April 30, 2018, 04:52:07 pm With that trip coming up I would have at least 3 or more sets of filters on board. Quote Selected 2 Likes
Re: The Next Issue to Troubleshoot Reply #42 – April 30, 2018, 04:53:59 pm Not sure how small oring on filter shaft would cause a external leak. To me it just appears to force fuel to go to outside of filter element and flow to center. Not sure how a outside leak would occur because of lack of that oring, as big oring on outside of filter seals fuel in regardless of whether or not small oring is there or not. Although in Randy's case, filter appears to work very well.Perhaps Brett could explain this. Quote Selected
Re: The Next Issue to Troubleshoot Reply #43 – April 30, 2018, 05:30:25 pm Yup, fuel comes into the filter through the small outer holes. To engine through large center hole.Lack of an O ring around the center would allow some mixing of filtered vs unfiltered fuel. The more clogged the filter, I suspect the more would go directly to the outlet. Agree, don't see how that would cause an external fuel leak.But, looking at the filters the FS1022 (secondary filter) still caught some of the contamination, but not nearly as much as the primary.I am surprised you were able to get to full power with that restriction. I would sure use a kill dose of algicide (should be able to find Biobar JF pretty easily in FL-- it is widely used in boats). Would also use something to treat asphaltene-- Cummins stocks one.Suspect that the filters are clogged with EITHER algae or asphaltene. If it feels slimy, probably algae. Quote Selected
Re: The Next Issue to Troubleshoot Reply #44 – April 30, 2018, 05:57:39 pm Makes sense, original error code "low delivery pressure" might very well indicate clogged filters. Maybe new filters will solve the problem. Quote Selected
Re: The Next Issue to Troubleshoot Reply #45 – April 30, 2018, 06:03:29 pm Quote from: jcus – April 30, 2018, 05:57:39 pmMakes sense, original error code "low delivery pressure" might very well indicate clogged filters. Maybe new filters will solve the problem.No question, new filters will allow a LOT more fuel flow! Quote Selected
Re: The Next Issue to Troubleshoot Reply #46 – April 30, 2018, 06:12:00 pm I use this for asphaltene with good results;Amazon.com: Penray 105032 Total Diesel Fuel System Cleaner - 32-Ounce... Quote Selected As an Amazon Associate Foretravel Owners' Forum earns from qualifying purchases.
Re: The Next Issue to Troubleshoot Reply #47 – April 30, 2018, 06:13:46 pm Quote from: wolfe10 – April 30, 2018, 03:49:18 pmSo, the fuel leak was from the secondary fuel filter?Brett - NO. No evidence of leak source. I cleaned previous splatter and ran the engine on high idle for a half hour today, principally to check newly installed filters. No leaks and no splatter. Tomorrow I'll run it down the interstate for an hour or so to see if it throws codes of evidence of splatter.Have a Friday appt at Cummins in Ft Myers in case issues remain. Quote Selected
Re: The Next Issue to Troubleshoot Reply #48 – April 30, 2018, 06:24:31 pm OK, so these replies add additional questions:1. Brett - I have Biobar JF in the coach. Would a "kill dose" also lead to clogging the filter's I just replaced? if so, how long to change? How many changes would be required?2. The tank of fuel I have now is the first to also contain a "clean-up" concentration of Power Service Diesel Kleen +Cetane Boost. Is this a asphaltene cleaner? If so, could this have been the source of contamination? I didn't see any "slime" in the fuel that I drained from the filters. There were some black particles...not a huge quantity but more than a few.I'm now concerned that if the tank is "cleaning" itself I'll have this as a recurring problem for some period of time? Quote Selected
Re: The Next Issue to Troubleshoot Reply #49 – April 30, 2018, 07:26:01 pm Regarding Diesel Kleen & asphaltene I found attached bulletin from Cummins re: this product.NEVER EVEN HEARD OF ASPHALTENE UNTIL TODAY! Quote Selected 1 Likes
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