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Tank Monitors

When we bought our 1990 GV U225 a year ago the monitors did not work. We hired an RV mechanic to help us to no avail. We installed a new back-up camera and they hooked up the leads for the monitors but again, no luck.  It looks like a sealevel would work if the leads work but in our case, no dice. Has any ever used an external only system?  I found the Gobius online and although it is twice the price of the sealevel system, it appears to be very simple to install. As always, your feedback is much appreciated.

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Leigh

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1990 Grand Villa U225
1995 Geo Tracker
2015 Jeep Patriot
Full time born date April 14, 2017
Living life to the fullest!

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Reply #1
We've been pleased with our SeeLevel system. Seem like a better value.
1993 U300 40ft GV SE
Build # 4344

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Reply #2
+1 SeeLevel
Randy (N4TDT) and Karen Crete
Sarasota, Florida
SOLD:  2000 U270 34' WTFE Build 5756 "Ole Red"

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SeeLevel is also an external system, I will be installing one in the near future.
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Where do you get the sea level system
Chris
1999 U 320 DGFE
Build Number 5523
Chris & Elka Lang
In the field, Lonoke AR

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Reply #5

Shop around. I got mine here, best price at the time.
Garnet 709 SeeLevel II Tank Monitoring System

also at Amazon

Amazon.com: SEE LEVEL 709: Automotive

My tanks are about  22" tall.  Yours may be different. Standard strips are 12".  You can order the kit with 16" strips or order an extra set of 12" strips and use two (trimmed) strips per tank or just order two kits with 12" strips.  Then you can have a display inside the coach and one outside in the wet bay which is very handy.

Three extra 12" strips cost about the same as an entire kit with a display.

You want the strips to start and stop 1 to 2 inches feom the top and bottom of the tanks.  You hit zero on fresh before you actually run out and 100% before you are overflowing.  Same on waste tanks.  Maybe even leave a bit more distance to the top of the tank for earlier warning sort of thing.

Do the prep work on the tank carefully and they will stick fine.  Preposition everything with painters tape to make sure it is where you want it before sticking it on.

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Roger Engdahl and Susan Green
2001 U320 3610 #5879 (Home2) - 2014 Jeep Cherokee or 2018 F150
Hastings, MN

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A lot of us just run new wire and located the SeeLevel display on the cabinetry somwhere. There are several good threads on SeeLevel installation in different models along with the great photos. Just search for SeeLevel and they'll come up.
jor
It looks like a sealevel would work if the leads work but in our case, no dice. Has any ever used an external only system?
93 225
95 300
97 270
99 320

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Your tanks are about  22" tall.  Standard strips are 12".  You can order the kit with 16" strips or order an extra set of 12" strips and use two (trimmed) strips per tank or just order two kits with 12" strips. 

With this coach being a U-225 it should have the short tanks. The 12" strips have worked just fine on these coaches.

Mike
Pamela & Mike 97 U 320

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Just a reminder,see-level does have a booth at"Q" and probably a discounted installation.
96 U270 BUILD 4810
85 380SL
Drummonds TN.

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I went with the iSeries Tank Monitor system.  It has worked flawlessly so far.  About $200 on Amazon.   It hooks up the same way that my Audit system hooked up with aluminum tape on the tanks and a sensor mounted to it. 

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Robert
Build # 5304
1998 34' U270 Cummins 6CTA8.3

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If your tanks are shorter you can use the 12" strips.  Mount the waste tanks strips closer to the top, you want to know when they are getting full, and the fresh tank strip closer to the bottom, you want to know when you are running out.  They do have 16" strips as well.
Roger Engdahl and Susan Green
2001 U320 3610 #5879 (Home2) - 2014 Jeep Cherokee or 2018 F150
Hastings, MN

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I went with Sensa Tank RV 100, they were my second choice. My preference was the Sea Level system mentioned above. Reason : when opening up the plumbing bay, I found my tanks to have reasonably accessible front faces, but they are angled on the front. in other words they don't rise vertically at 90 degrees. they rise at about a 45 degree angle, getting closer to the outside as they rise.
I called Sea Level, asked if their strips would read the tank levels properly if placed on the 45 degree face, they said no.. I called Sensa Tank, asked if their individual sensors would read properly on the angled face, they said Yes.
I realize if I had tackled removing one of the tanks, I could have placed the Sea Level strips  on the Vertical sides of the tanks, but that requires disconnecting a lot of plumbing.
I am very pleased with the Sensa Tank System. Downside it it only reads 1/4,1/2, 3/4, and Full
Amazon.com: Johnson Pump Rv Sensa Tank Rv 100 200600032rv: Automotive

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2014 Honda CRV
Washington, Vermont
Lady Lake, Fl,  Independence, VA
Former owner of 2002 U320, 2003 U320, 2005 U270

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...................when opening up the plumbing bay, I found my tanks to have reasonably accessible front faces, but they are angled on the front. in other words they don't rise vertically at 90 degrees. they rise at about a 45 degree angle, getting closer to the outside as they rise........................


On the opposite side of the coach the tank walls are verticle. There is a "step" upwards on the fresh tank, but its all verticle before and after the step.


Dan - Full timing since 2009
2003 U320 40' Tag 2 slide

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Because of the odd shape of the water tank on mour coach I purchased a small water meter so I could measure the amount of water going into the fresh tank.  IE every 10 gallons on the meter = ?? percent on the see level monitor.  ( I know super anal)  When I get the installation done I will post the conversion graph here.  It will be a while.

Keith
Keith, Joyce & Smokey the Australian Cattle Dog
1995 U320 SE Extreme 40' WTBI Build # 4780, with a Honda CR-V hopefully still following behind.
Motorcade # 17030
FMCA # F422159

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I went with Sensa Tank RV 100, they were my second choice. My preference was the Sea Level system mentioned above. Reason : when opening up the plumbing bay, I found my tanks to have reasonably accessible front faces, but they are angled on the front. in other words they don't rise vertically at 90 degrees. they rise at about a 45 degree angle, getting closer to the outside as they rise.
I called Sea Level, asked if their strips would read the tank levels properly if placed on the 45 degree face, they said no.. I called Sensa Tank, asked if their individual sensors would read properly on the angled face, they said Yes.
I realize if I had tackled removing one of the tanks, I could have placed the Sea Level strips  on the Vertical sides of the tanks, but that requires disconnecting a lot of plumbing.
I am very pleased with the Sensa Tank System. Downside it it only reads 1/4,1/2, 3/4, and Full
Amazon.com: Johnson Pump Rv Sensa Tank Rv 100 200600032rv: Automotive
I am glad you are happy with the Sensa.  I am also leaning towards the SeeLevel.  I do not understand why the Sensa cured the minor problem of the sloped side?
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I used two seelevel kits when I did ours. Tanks are a little too tall for just one strip and I really really like the 2 monitors ( 1 over top of the entry door with other Gadgets and one I water bay).    When I'm back flushing the black tank with the gray water, I can tell when the tanks have equalized  And I can monitor the fresh fill from outside.

  Also per see level tech, consider covering the fresh tank strips with 1/4" rubber strips to avoid possible interference from the metal plumbing fittings.    Just in case ......
Robert and Susan
 1995 36' 280 WTBI 8.3 3060r
 1200 watts on the roof, 720 Ah of lithium's
 Build # 4637. Motorcade # 17599
        FMCA  # 451505
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  Also per see level tech, consider covering the fresh tank strips with 1/4" rubber strips to avoid possible interference from the metal plumbing fittings.    Just in case ......

Would 1/4" foam weather stripping work?  Is there a good source at Home Depot/Lowes for actual 1/4 " rubber?  (I have interference on the fresh tak at certain percentages of fill, black and grey are ok. )
Dan - Full timing since 2009
2003 U320 40' Tag 2 slide

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The see level guys said to try lowes and sure enough they had exactly what SL recommended. It comes in about 8" squares and is easy enough to cut in half. Then I duct taped the{€.+{!. Out of it. 
Robert and Susan
 1995 36' 280 WTBI 8.3 3060r
 1200 watts on the roof, 720 Ah of lithium's
 Build # 4637. Motorcade # 17599
        FMCA  # 451505
        18  Wrangler JLUR

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Reply #18
Don't have the technical knowledge of many of these gurus, but I'm very happy with our SeeLevel update!
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I used two seelevel kits when I did ours. Tanks are a little too tall for just one strip and I really really like the 2 monitors ( 1 over top of the entry door with other Gadgets and one I water bay).    When I'm back flushing the black tank with the gray water, I can tell when the tanks have equalized  And I can monitor the fresh fill from outside.


Bob & Sue,

How do you back flush the black tank with the gray water?

Thanks,
Susan
Susan
Chimayo, NM
1990 U280 36'

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Reply #20
Do a search for 3rd dump valve. Many members have installed one
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I use the following Flush King to back flush the black tank at least twice with clean fresh water (with the clear coupling, you can see when the tank is clean) before using the remaining water in the grey tank to flush the black tank. Using the grey to flush the black you leave both dump valves open until the equalize.  Done this for over  10 years and keeps black tank clean.  I just am not a fan of equalizing the tanks until I've flushed the black tank using the Flush King.  I then use "Happy Camper" brand treatment.  I use to have my tanks checked by a franchise that did that with a camera.  After two years they said I was wasting my $$$ having them check my tanks in the future, as my tanks were as clean as any they see.  The Happy Camper product does not just cover up odor with another odor, it eliminates all odor with enzymes.

My sewer valves were just all renewed by the previous owner.  So...it will be a while before I install the 3rd valve with a black water flush system to allow clean water into the black tank.  A pair of See Level monitors will come first, later this summer, (one inside and one at the wet bay).
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Without a 3rd valve you can backflush by raising the middle of the sewer hose to create a trap, then open the gray valve(after draining the black tank) until the tanks equalize(you can hear when the water stops rushing between tanks).  Then close the gray valve and drop the hose.  When water stops draining into the sewer you can repeat the process.  Usually three times is enough(by checking the water draining into the sewer to make sure it's clear) so you can drain the rest of the gray water.  Flushing always works best when the gray tank is close to full.
Regards,
Brett

'99 42' Foretravel Xtreme
'14 Brown Motorsports Stacker
'05 Chevy SSR
'02 BMW R1150R

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Reply #23
I use one of these instead of a permanently installed one. Just hook it up before the sewer hose and hook the hose to it.
Justin & Cathy Byrd
1995 U280 "Old Faithful"
36' Build #4673
C8.3 Cummins
Allison MD3060R 6 speed - retarder
Powertech 10KW  4cyl Kubota

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Reply #24
Ditto.
Robert and Susan
 1995 36' 280 WTBI 8.3 3060r
 1200 watts on the roof, 720 Ah of lithium's
 Build # 4637. Motorcade # 17599
        FMCA  # 451505
        18  Wrangler JLUR