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charging of the motor batteries(3)

Hello everyone, I just changed the three motor starting batteries for the Cummins. Much to my surprise after the coach sat for 2 weeks, I went out and tried to start and barely cranked over, I hit the boost and she started. Once I let it run for 10 minutes or so , I tried to restart without the boost , and it started fine, is there any type of charging in the coach that Foretravel would have installed for the motor batteries when plugged in. Even if I leave the boost switch on the motor batteries are not charging. My mechanic seems to think I may have a relay stuck or a light left on in a belly bay or something like that, any help would be appreciated!! Thanks Bob in Ct

Re: charging of the motor batteries(3)

Reply #1
No, from the factory, NO means of charging chassis batteries.

If leaving the boost switch on does not charge them, then indeed you have a bad boost solenoid.
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
Moderator, ForeForum 2001-
Moderator Diesel RV Club 2002-
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Reply #2
Two weeks is about right.  Parasitic draws are discharging the battery.

Unless you disconnect the batteries at the negative terminal to eliminate the parasitics, your solution is to add a trickle charger, battery tender, or battery minder.  The boost switch should also work, but is a last resort.  All these solutions require the house batteries getting charged somehow.
Tom Lang K6PG (originally  KC6UEC)
and Diane Lang
2003 38 U295 build 6209
2016 Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit Ecodiesel
still have tow-ready 2006 Acura MDX 
Temple City, California
Motorcade 16681 California Chapter President
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FMCA F071251
Retired electrical and electronic engineer

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Reply #3
No, from the factory, NO means of charging chassis batteries.

If leaving the boost switch on does not charge them, then indeed you have a bad boost solenoid.

If boost switch was bad then it should not have started after he activated it....... would have made no difference.
He stated that he hit the boost and it started, I'm a bit confused as to how it could help start without allowing them to charge also.
Justin & Cathy Byrd
1995 U280 "Old Faithful"
36' Build #4673
C8.3 Cummins
Allison MD3060R 6 speed - retarder
Powertech 10KW  4cyl Kubota

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Reply #4
Two weeks discharged can damage the engine start batteries permanently.  Don't ask me how I know that
"Riding and rejoicing"
Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

1095 watts solar
08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4

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Reply #5
Install a Trik-L-Start so that when you have power your start batteries stay charged up.
Alan & Gerri Ortiz
1996 U295 36 ft.
"Rocinante"
Hartwell, Georgia
1999 Subaru Forester
Build No. 4957 Motorcader 17399

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Reply #6
If boost switch was bad then it should not have started after he activated it....... would have made no difference.
He stated that he hit the boost and it started, I'm a bit confused as to how it could help start without allowing them to charge also.


Good catch.  That REALLY doesn't explain symptoms. 

You are right-- how would boost allow starting but not allow charging?
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
Moderator, ForeForum 2001-
Moderator Diesel RV Club 2002-
Moderator, FMCA Forum 2009-2020
Chairman FMCA Technical Advisory Committee 2011-2020

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Reply #7
Verify which circuits are on the engine battery with a test light on the fuse boxes. Then use one of the plug in volt meters as you remove active fuses. The culprit circuit will show a lower volt reading until it is removed  .

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Reply #8
Ice, can't help without know year & model of your coach.

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Reply #9
Did the OP mention what brand of batteries he had and how old they are? I'm as confused as the rest. The dual charge system we have ALWAYS keeps the start batteries up to snuff, as well as the house when we're plugged-in at the pier. I have NEVER had to use the boost switch or the block heater, even at 20 degrees when dry camping.
1993 U-240 "La Villa Grande"..CAT 3116 w/ Pacbrake PRXB...Allison 3060 6-speed..
Previous: 1983 Airstream 310 turbo diesel, 1979 Airstream 280 turbo diesel
                                      Build # 4297
                                      PNW natives
                      Home base:  'Cactus Hug' (Ajo, Arizona)
                        DW Judy & Chet the wonder dog
                        Full-Timers 'Sailing the asphalt sea'

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Reply #10
Mike, your coach being a 93 is all mechanical I think, so you probably don't have the parasitic  drain that the electronic controlled units have.
Wish mine was totally mechanical.
Jerry & Nanci
1999 U270 34'WTFI
2011 Malibu
A smart man knows what to say, a wise man knows when to say it.

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Reply #11
Mike, your coach being a 93 is all mechanical I think, so you probably don't have the parasitic  drain that the electronic controlled units have.
Wish mine was totally mechanical.
Ah ha! Thanks for the heads-up. I've never heard the term 'parasitic drain', but I've dealt with some customers that had it!  ^.^d
1993 U-240 "La Villa Grande"..CAT 3116 w/ Pacbrake PRXB...Allison 3060 6-speed..
Previous: 1983 Airstream 310 turbo diesel, 1979 Airstream 280 turbo diesel
                                      Build # 4297
                                      PNW natives
                      Home base:  'Cactus Hug' (Ajo, Arizona)
                        DW Judy & Chet the wonder dog
                        Full-Timers 'Sailing the asphalt sea'

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Reply #12
We also installed a Trik-L-Start (on bulkhead under bed) and that took care of the problem.
2000 U320 mid entry  #5688
2006 Jeep Liberty


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FEMA US&R TF8