Wanted 29 ft Foretravel Grand Villa

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Wanted 29 ft Foretravel Grand Villa

November 25, 2018, 12:09:08 pm

I am looking for 29 or 30 ft Foretravel Grand Villa with twin beds
and the 5.9 Cummins diesel.

Jimmy Freytag, Ardmore Ok.
Cell or text. 214-762-6290
Email freytags@gmail.com

Re: Wanted 29 ft Foretravel Grand Villa

Reply #1 – November 25, 2018, 01:10:02 pm

I did not know they even made a '29' :

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Reply #2 – November 25, 2018, 03:15:08 pm

I do not remember seeing a front engine 5.9 29'

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Reply #3 – November 25, 2018, 03:52:03 pm

Memory is always the second thing to go...1992 front engine diesel GV2900:

1992 Front Engine Specifications

1992 Foretravel Front Engine Floorplans

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Reply #4 – November 27, 2018, 04:53:41 pm

If anyone else is interested, here is a Gas listed. If it was a diesel I would have to look.

1987 Foretravel Motorcoach Grand Villa - rvs - by owner - vehicle automotive...

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Reply #5 – November 27, 2018, 05:23:37 pm

Does anyone know the exact number or even if any were made? I know many manufacturers that listed models in brochure, and non were produced.

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Reply #6 – November 27, 2018, 05:36:34 pm

I had a 29 foot 90 model Gran Villa gasser. My last gasser

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Reply #7 – November 27, 2018, 05:55:06 pm

Jimmy,

I moved this from Classified, as there is quite a bit of discussion.

In the Classified Section, 100% of posts must be moderator approved, and I don't want to inhibit discussion.

I am with you, would love to know if/how many diesel PULLERS Foretravel made.

I seem to recall one for sale a year or so ago, but no idea of it was a "from the factory" diesel puller or was converted by an owner.

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Reply #8 – November 27, 2018, 06:23:54 pm

If that one listed is on a GM P-30 or P-32 platform, for a number of CBs, a Duramax & Allison can be installed, it's bin' done on a Airstream.

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Reply #9 – November 27, 2018, 06:26:13 pm

Mike,

While true, the front suspension is the "weak link" on the Chevy/Workhorse P chassis.

Can't imagine adding the weight of a Duramax and Allison to an already marginal front suspension.

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Reply #10 – November 27, 2018, 06:32:20 pm

Brett, Agree, having had two of them. The rear suspension is nothing to write home about, either. If the pic of the 29' is, indeed, on a 'P' chassis, you can see the rear end sag, which is why AS added air bags. I know my friend dropped 20CBs into his Duramax change out, and the suspension had to be beefed. Biggest problem, as I remember, was the frame had to be trussed to take that heavy Allison. It is not a 'backyard swap'!

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Reply #11 – November 27, 2018, 06:57:48 pm

Quote from: Jimmy Freytag – November 27, 2018, 04:53:41 pm

If anyone else is interested, here is a Gas listed. If it was a diesel I would have to look.

1987 Foretravel Motorcoach Grand Villa - rvs - by owner - vehicle automotive...

Craigslist Ad was flagged for removal... maybe a scam CL or Ebay listing....

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Reply #12 – November 27, 2018, 07:13:49 pm

Quote from: Subsilked – November 27, 2018, 06:57:48 pm

Craigslist Ad was flagged for removal... maybe a scam CL or Ebay listing....

I'd wonder if they ever made a diesel version, at least on the 'P' chassis, given what Brett & I know about the platform. If they DID make one on another platform, it would be a saying I love:

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Reply #13 – November 27, 2018, 07:15:35 pm

The post on the 1987 is not a scam, I talk to the person and received photos of the coach. I just talked to him here is his number
248-701-4368 name is Moe.

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Reply #14 – November 27, 2018, 09:18:57 pm

Triana would know if a 5.9 29" was built.

I ordered and sold several roadmaster FED 8.2 detroit 33' s.

Resold a 79 33' FED with a Cummins 555 in it. Revved hard. Ran pretty well. No turbo.

Straight axle front end

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Reply #15 – November 28, 2018, 01:15:52 pm

My 29' is on a John Deer chassis, with a Ford 460 for power. Great fuel mileage, 6-8, going down hill of course, but it sure has the getup and go. 😋
Rear bath and twin beds. I've thought of a bigger coach, but at 78 and single I really don't need one and I am a full timer. Only major upgrade residential frig and Banks exhaust.

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Reply #16 – November 28, 2018, 05:44:21 pm

The diesel FT 29's, with the 5.9 Cummins had the same JD (Oshkosh) chassis as the Ford 460's.
Excellent HD chassis, large disc brakes on all 4 wheels, some parts getting hard to find.

Other's used this chassis back in the day, Allegro, Mallard etc.

Parts supplier:
Chassis Parts Oshkosh John Deere Stepvan | Mill Supply, Inc.

Some parts may be sourced thru Freightliner which bought out JD and Oshkosh Chassis divisions.

I have the Oshkosh chassis Manual in PDF format if anyone is interested. It covers the puller and pusher chassis' gas and diesel.
PM me.

Neal

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Reply #17 – November 28, 2018, 05:48:28 pm

My SOB coach was on a P-30 chassis --the problem I saw with that coach was front wheels were in line with inside rear duels and
made coach very unstable in cross wind condition. 30MPH cross wind and I would have to slow to 35 or 40 mph, In the 320 I don't even notice a 30 mph cross wind
Chris

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Reply #18 – November 28, 2018, 05:55:35 pm

Quote from: Chris m lang – November 28, 2018, 05:48:28 pm

My SOB coach was on a P-30 chassis --the problem I saw with that coach was front wheels were in line with inside rear duels and
made coach very unstable in cross wind condition.

Never had that problem with the Airstreams, but, different body and a very heavy Isuzu diesel engine!

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Reply #19 – November 28, 2018, 06:10:38 pm

Quote from: Chris m lang – November 28, 2018, 05:48:28 pm

My SOB coach was on a P-30 chassis --the problem I saw with that coach was front wheels were in line with inside rear duels and
made coach very unstable in cross wind condition.

Yup, it took Workhorse to FINALLY increase the front track on the P chassis. All Chevy-built P chassis were narrow front track.

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Reply #20 – November 28, 2018, 10:09:52 pm

Yep that narrow track sure looks funky too, seen an sob going down the road the other day must have been 102 wide with the narrow front axle, my first thought was what and why?/

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Reply #21 – November 28, 2018, 10:17:12 pm

Quote from: wolfe10 – November 28, 2018, 06:10:38 pm

Yup, it took Workhorse to FINALLY increase the front track on the P chassis. All Chevy-built P chassis were narrow front track.

Well, never too old to learn. My first coach was a 29 ft Ultrastar on a P30 chassis. I never knew why it blew all over the road when an 18 wheeler or worse a Greyhound went by. My present MB Sprinter doesn't do that.
Thanks

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Reply #22 – November 30, 2018, 02:59:37 pm

LOOK WHAT I FOUND---88 33ft Grand villa that has been converted by owner to Isusu Diesel, but it has a manual transmission. I have a left bad hip and knee so leaves me out. I have talk to the owner he has made many trips to Mexico over the years. I have a few pictures his wife was having computer problems. GRAND VILLA (FORETRAVEL) - $8000 (EVERGREEN)

GRAND VILLA (FORETRAVEL) - rvs - by owner - vehicle automotive sale

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Reply #23 – November 30, 2018, 03:23:22 pm

That cou

Quote from: Jimmy Freytag – November 30, 2018, 02:59:37 pm

LOOK WHAT I FOUND---88 33ft Grand villa that has been converted by owner to Isusu Diesel, but it has a manual transmission

THAT could be a good deal! Isuzus are bullet-proof engines, parts still available (especially up in the PNW where they're used in fishing boats and stationary applications). I think our last one was a 6BD-2 ,turbo-charged, got 15 mpg. When I retired ours, it had 250,000 miles on it, trouble-free, burned NO OIL EVER!

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Reply #24 – November 30, 2018, 05:01:16 pm

For that money, it sounds like it could be a fun one to have. So, no turbo on that Isuzu, right?

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