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Quietest most efficient A/C

Just wasted some time on You Tube by Advanced RV in Ohio rating quietest, most efficient a/c. Of course they didn't say which "won", but I think they are trying to sell a unit that they charge $2800 for??!!!
What is the best, low profile a/c out there?
Can I do the switch myself? Do I get a " ducted" one for my coach?
Need quiet units!!
Glenn and Amy Beinfest
2001 36' U320
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2014 Honda CRV

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Reply #1
OK. I'll answer my own question. I found some old posts regarding this issue, and it seems Atwood is "THE" unit. If Rudy likes 'em.....I like 'em.
Glenn and Amy Beinfest
2001 36' U320
#5812
2014 Honda CRV

No Whining on the YACHT

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Reply #2
There have been several Forum threads in the past on swapping out A/C units.  From what I have read, it is not complicated, but it does require two people (to manhandle the unit) and some logistical support.

Disconnect wires, unbolt/remove the old unit, replace the mounting gasket, and drop the new one in place.  Bolt it down, connect wires.  Done.

You need to arrange some way to safely get the new unit up on the roof, and safely get the old unit down.  Not sure what they weigh.
1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
"Nature abhors a vacuum"

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The Carrier 'Air V' that Brett put in our coach is about the quietest we've had. Dometics are a good second. The COOLEST was the old Colmans, but noisy, as expected. We've been in 115 degree temps down here and running just the rear Carrier and a small fan in front, have been fairly comfy at 82 degrees!  ^.^d  Would I be planning to spend time up north, I'd get a AC with a heat strip; handy first thing before the furnaces warm up.
1993 U-240 "La Villa Grande"..CAT 3116 w/ Pacbrake PRXB...Allison 3060 6-speed..
Previous: 1983 Airstream 310 turbo diesel, 1979 Airstream 280 turbo diesel
                                      Build # 4297
                                      PNW natives
                      Home base:  'Cactus Hug' (Ajo, Arizona)
                        DW Judy & Chet the wonder dog
                        Full-Timers 'Sailing the asphalt sea'

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Seems like people  were raving about the Atwood Air Command units recently.  Wonder how they are working out over time?
"Not so  long ago we were a nation of risk takers, riding five million pounds of  thrust straight into space."  Joe Gresh
Chuck Pearson
1996 U295
2018 Can Am X3 TurboRS

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Reply #5
Have ours for two years now and they work great. Love the remotes ^.^d .
Andy & Eileen
MONTROSE COLORADO
1992 U300  40' 6V92 TA
2016 4 Runner
1998 Jeep Grand cherokee

1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee) Build # 4135 Skp# 122921

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Quietest and coldest may not come in the same unit.
Dub McBride 1996 270

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Any one installed the Atwood's on ducted 98-2001 270-295? Does the old thermostat still work for the furnace and such. OR do you have to redo the whole mess.
Bruce, Linda, and Macy
Zoey RIP 1/20/19
1999 U295 40' build #5400
2017 silver Jeep Wrangler, 1260 watts of solar on top
Moving around the country

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Turned on the rear Carrier an hour ago; it's now 100 degrees outside, 80 inside. 20 degrees difference is about the best we get, which is fine! Have never fired the front & rear at the same time, but, if this heat continues, will try, in spite of the noise. OR, HEAD FOR THE HIGH COUNTRY!
1993 U-240 "La Villa Grande"..CAT 3116 w/ Pacbrake PRXB...Allison 3060 6-speed..
Previous: 1983 Airstream 310 turbo diesel, 1979 Airstream 280 turbo diesel
                                      Build # 4297
                                      PNW natives
                      Home base:  'Cactus Hug' (Ajo, Arizona)
                        DW Judy & Chet the wonder dog
                        Full-Timers 'Sailing the asphalt sea'

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You will be ok with just a fan Mike "it's just a dry heat"..
Dub McBride 1996 270

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Sort of like a microwave
Dub McBride 1996 270

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I installed (2 ) Atwood Air Command 15000 btu units with the heat pump myself with no problems.
I'm very happy with the units and have found the heat pumps work very well.
The remote control or the flip down controls are very easy to use, I do not miss having to use the wall mounted thermostat.

I found that if you strip the carton, except the bottom, and lay it on a ladder at a LOW angle to the roof , one person can easily push it up the ladder alone.
Make sure you buy the inner housing(unless you have a ducted sytem), it does not come with the unit.

I found the inner housing with the best price on Amazon(prime member).
The A/C unit I bought from the 12 VOLT Store. I was lucky enough that the 12 VOLT stores warehouse is only a few miles from me. I was able to go pick the unit up and avoid the S&H charges.
1995 U320C SE 40'
Jeep 4x4 Commander - Limited - Hemi
"The Pack"  Yogi and Diesel our Airedales -  Charlie our Boxer/Akita mix. Gone but NEVER forgotten Jake our yellow Lab.
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Ya, Carrier has been in the A/C business a LONG time.  Their RV roof  A/C were "state of the art"-- quiet, efficient and very easy to service.  Sadly, Carrier is a huge corporation and suspect not willing to put up with the huge cycles the RV industry experiences.  So, they quit the business.

Still some excellent units.
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
Moderator, ForeForum 2001-
Moderator Diesel RV Club 2002-
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Chairman FMCA Technical Advisory Committee 2011-2020

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If I were to order the Atwood A/C, and I have a ducted system, do I leave the existing ceiling diffuser and the t-stat that controls the A/C AND Aqua Hot??? I don't see how the existing unit distributes the air into the ceiling ducts. Looks like some type of baffle is in the back of the chute. I would appreciate some feedback on a DUCTED system installation. Thanks
Glenn and Amy Beinfest
2001 36' U320
#5812
2014 Honda CRV

No Whining on the YACHT

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I think the remote is the thermostat if I recall correctly.. Dont think any of the inside pieces are going to fit (brand specific).

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David is correct, the remotes and the drop down panel control the units. At least on mine not sure on the ducted units , Glenn just call the 12 volt store and ask. They will tell you
Andy & Eileen
MONTROSE COLORADO
1992 U300  40' 6V92 TA
2016 4 Runner
1998 Jeep Grand cherokee

1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee) Build # 4135 Skp# 122921

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Reply #16
I recommend a mini-split system because existing RV AC design is too noisy because:

- Fans too small
- Ducts too small
- Motor hum
- AC equipment too close to user
- Lack of noise insulation

That said, I installed two Dometic Brisk Air 2 overhead units. Noisy as hell, even on low speed.
1997 U270 34FT Build 5140 Cummins 8.3 Allison 3060R
Solar 1920Watts, 14KWH lithium. Orion BMS.

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Reply #17
Mini-splits sound like a great idea especially having an inverter compressor.  There is a cassette design that might fit in the existing A/C opening.  But where do you mount the compressor? 
Too bad no one makes a combined cassette + compressor drop in unit. 
Forest & Cindy Olivier
1987 log cabin
2011 Roadtrek C210P
no longer 1999 36' U320 build #5522
2013 Rzr 570 & 2018 Ranger XP1000
2006 Lexus GX470
2011 Tahoe LT 4x4
Previous 1998 45' 2 slide Newell, 1993 39' Newell

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I installed a Atwood 15k heatpump in the front of my 91 I like it. Quiet compared to original coleman. They are taller than the old coleman.
91 GV U300 Unihome 40' Build 3811
6V92TA Detroit

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This was last June in Ajo. Only the rear was running:  after the pic, we did fire the front Carrier for a while!
1993 U-240 "La Villa Grande"..CAT 3116 w/ Pacbrake PRXB...Allison 3060 6-speed..
Previous: 1983 Airstream 310 turbo diesel, 1979 Airstream 280 turbo diesel
                                      Build # 4297
                                      PNW natives
                      Home base:  'Cactus Hug' (Ajo, Arizona)
                        DW Judy & Chet the wonder dog
                        Full-Timers 'Sailing the asphalt sea'

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Mike, if you feel like 87 degrees inside your coach is bearable, then you have lived in the desert WAY too long.  8)
1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
"Nature abhors a vacuum"

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Reply #21
Mike, if you feel like 87 degrees inside your coach is bearable, then you have lived in the desert WAY too long.  8)
It's not that bad AFTER you've spent some time down here to get your blood to thin out. We are now sitting at a cool 82 degrees, watching NASCAR! ^.^d
1993 U-240 "La Villa Grande"..CAT 3116 w/ Pacbrake PRXB...Allison 3060 6-speed..
Previous: 1983 Airstream 310 turbo diesel, 1979 Airstream 280 turbo diesel
                                      Build # 4297
                                      PNW natives
                      Home base:  'Cactus Hug' (Ajo, Arizona)
                        DW Judy & Chet the wonder dog
                        Full-Timers 'Sailing the asphalt sea'

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And, if I am reading the thermometer correctly that is a VERY low 14% humidity.  Probably feels a good 10 degrees cooler than if it were down here in the humid areas.

Same for temperature drop across the evaporator.  Removing water takes a LOT of BTU's.  So in the desert, air out the vents is/should be cooler.
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
Moderator, ForeForum 2001-
Moderator Diesel RV Club 2002-
Moderator, FMCA Forum 2009-2020
Chairman FMCA Technical Advisory Committee 2011-2020

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And, if I am reading the thermometer correctly that is a VERY low 14% humidity.  Probably feels a good 10 degrees cooler than if it were down here in the humid areas. Same for temperature drop across the evaporator.  Removing water takes a LOT of BTU's.  So in the desert, air out the vents is/should be cooler.
Ya, our humidity gauge blanks out at 10%, which happens a lot this time of year. I DO like your Carrier AC units! I also believe the  great insulation of the coach is a monster help, as well. I did not believe the old saw about 'blood thinning', but when we first came down from the PNW, the kind of heat we have was nigh-on intolerable; but after eight years down here, our bodies seem to have adapted. I guess why we are called 'Desert Rats' !  ^.^d
1993 U-240 "La Villa Grande"..CAT 3116 w/ Pacbrake PRXB...Allison 3060 6-speed..
Previous: 1983 Airstream 310 turbo diesel, 1979 Airstream 280 turbo diesel
                                      Build # 4297
                                      PNW natives
                      Home base:  'Cactus Hug' (Ajo, Arizona)
                        DW Judy & Chet the wonder dog
                        Full-Timers 'Sailing the asphalt sea'

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Getting BACK to the original question, I called Advanced RV in Ohio, to see if there was a follow up video telling us what unit they found to be best. Of course, it is one that they can only sell. It is a  Houghton Belaire from Australia, and they charge around $2800 EACH to install a 13,500 btu unit. They will NOW send you one, for about the same money. When I Googled the unit, it seems a lot less expensive if one could buy direct. It seemed to be available in 15,000 btu.
I STILL don't know if I were to install an Atwood, do I leave the existing t stat on the wall to control the Aqua Hot?
There seems to be some type of wiring adapter needed, also....but it is not clear. There is a wall mounted t stat available. Is it necessary?
I am sure someone has installed these in a DUCTED system.
Glenn and Amy Beinfest
2001 36' U320
#5812
2014 Honda CRV

No Whining on the YACHT