Is this normal for cruise control?

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Is this normal for cruise control?

May 20, 2019, 08:12:54 pm

When driving the coach home this weekend, I noticed that when I used my turn signal to pass a vehicle the cruise control would kick off. Never noticed it before, but is this normal?

Larry

Re: Is this normal for cruise control?

Reply #1 – May 20, 2019, 08:41:37 pm

No, sounds like it's back feeding, making the cruise think the brake lights are activated. Have checked to lights physically, while someone works the lever and brake pedal?
Chris

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Reply #2 – May 20, 2019, 09:10:36 pm

Yes. Dirt and crud built up in the switch of smart wheel. Dim/bright or turn would make cruise kick off. Hitting wiper buttons would make cruise kick off. MOT took apart wheel, cleaned contacts and has worked perfectly sense

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Reply #3 – May 20, 2019, 09:35:01 pm

Larry,

You and Jerry Whiteaker should get together - sounds like your coaches are both being infested by the same electrical gremlins!

TURN SIGNAL CAUSING BRAKE LIGHT TO FLASH

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Reply #4 – May 20, 2019, 09:56:52 pm

Larry,
Looks like we have a similar problem. One thing I forgot to mention, when the problem was happening, the engine was also surging a little bit. Most noticable at a low speed in first gear although I could feel it at any speed. I think this is/was due to the King throttle control which is electric not giving a steady pull on the throttle cable. Did you notice that, if you have the King throttle?

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Reply #5 – May 21, 2019, 07:34:43 am

Chris, I didn't have the wife watching while I drove. I will this weekend when we bring it home again.

Tim, I don't have the smart wheel. My cruise is on the urn signal stalk like the older GM vehicles.

Jerry, I didn't notice any surge. I was doing 70 down the highway and passed a tractor trailer. Turned on signal to pass and the cruise kicked off. Then happened again when I turned on the signal to exit the highway.

Larry

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Reply #6 – May 21, 2019, 09:42:59 am

I would peel back the rubber cover on the turn signal stalk and inspect the cruise switch to begin with.

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Reply #7 – May 22, 2019, 09:13:17 am

Quote from: ohsonew – May 20, 2019, 08:12:54 pm

When driving the coach home this weekend, I noticed that when I used my turn signal to pass a vehicle the cruise control would kick off. Never noticed it before, but is this normal?

Larry

Strangely enough, yes it is normal. The cruise control sees a brake light, or the electrical version of one, and does its thing. Your 4-way flashers will do the same thing. Noticing this only shows that you're getting comfortable driving your rig.

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Reply #8 – May 22, 2019, 09:40:02 am

this is not normal Larry. Cruise shutting down like that would render it useless. If it senses a turn signal the same as a brake light then it's sensing wrong. Unless I'm misunderstanding op.

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Reply #9 – May 22, 2019, 10:22:10 am

If you have a converter installed between coach and tow car (the thing that allows for integrated brake/turn signal lights) might try unplugging it and see if it's back feeding somehow.

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Reply #10 – May 22, 2019, 11:10:29 am

Ours does the same thing. Yep.. shuts off when turn signal is used. Always has. I just figured it was a built in safety thing. Like maybe I was supposed to have personal control when passing. Or turning a corner. Not to far fetched maybe ??

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Reply #11 – May 22, 2019, 11:19:51 am

I could be wrong, I never noticed mine doing it , guess I will back out

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Reply #12 – May 22, 2019, 01:34:30 pm

My coach has not done that (turn signal kicking off the cruise control) for the 10 yrs that I have owned it. It did it for 2 days recently then went away. It took me a day to figure out what was causing it. Mine may have been due to the electrical tow cable. Any time the brake light comes on it will disengage the cruise control as it is supposed to do. Turn signal should not cause the brake light to flash.

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Reply #13 – May 22, 2019, 08:28:15 pm

I can understand the brake light signal shutting it off. I will have to chase down if their is a short, bad bulb or just gremlins.

Thanks for the comments, keep em coming

Larry

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Reply #14 – May 22, 2019, 08:28:27 pm

Jerry, have you checked the bulbs, I have had one filament burn off and drop onto the other filament,all kinds of strange things happen .... Hope you find your problem..
Safe Travels,
Dave

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Reply #15 – May 22, 2019, 08:43:47 pm

I know ours has done the off thing when turning for a long time but I'm actually betting it's not supposed to.
I guess I'll be investigating that now. Dang it's always something. Good thing we LOVE our coach cause we'll do whatever's needed.

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Reply #16 – May 23, 2019, 09:14:14 am

Quote from: Dave Dunington – May 22, 2019, 08:28:27 pm

Jerry, have you checked the bulbs,
Safe Travels,
Dave

That was one of the first things I checked. Tapped on the bulbs to see if maybe a filament was broken as sometimes they look ok when they are actually broken. Drove coach to storage last night, turn signals and other lights normal.

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Reply #17 – May 23, 2019, 01:12:39 pm

Well Jerry, Good ideas can be easily discarded!! Hope you find you problem .
Safe Travels
Dave

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Reply #18 – May 23, 2019, 01:39:03 pm

Brett will hate me after installing a King Control (set to 75%) unit. After 300,000 miles of driving without one, I never use his. Old habits, 'ya know!

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Reply #19 – May 23, 2019, 01:41:28 pm

Nope, no problem.

Except on relatively flat ground, a good driver can do better (particularly from an MPG standpoint) than a cruise. On many small, short grades (like freeway overpasses), a cruise will go to WOT, while a smart driver doesn't do anything.

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Reply #20 – May 23, 2019, 03:54:27 pm

My opinion these 6 speeds shift down to quick as in slight overpass grade. Even a 300 wouldn't lug in that short of pull. Rev up and suck fuel just like Bret said all to get over a no hill.

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Reply #21 – May 23, 2019, 03:55:24 pm

Dub,

Use "economy mode" to markedly reduce downshifts on those overpasses.

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Reply #22 – May 23, 2019, 04:25:15 pm

I don't see that option on my shift pad Bret. Didn't think 96 had it. Hope I'm wrong.

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Reply #23 – May 23, 2019, 04:29:50 pm

Upper right corner of the Allison shift pad. Labeled "mode".

Default is power mode-- starts there at every restart of the engine. Pushing the mode button puts it in economy mode and the little red light illuminates.

You can switch between the two as often as you like, while stopped or driving- any speed, any time.

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Reply #24 – May 23, 2019, 04:46:08 pm

Sitting in the bus now and I wanna thank ya. Crap I thought the word mode meant that the transmission was in the gear lit up on the screen. Man I don't know how I get out of the blasted yard let alone make it down the road.

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