Re: RV barn update Reply #40 – June 12, 2019, 11:48:02 am Typical. It seems nowdays when a supplier or contractor actually follows the deal they have committed to its cause for astonishment and celebration. Tell em they loaded the box truck they can unload it as well. Definitely not something you want to do by hand. Nfw. Potential for damage to you and your materials. Flatbed at least.Any chance your erection contractor could unload and place the materials where they want them? Enjoying your build thread, lots of good info. Quote Selected
Re: RV barn update Reply #41 – June 12, 2019, 12:03:18 pm Thanks for sharing your project. I appreciate it. I looked at several construction variations and went with stick built because we could do it ourselves. When I built my shop I looked at structural insulated panels for the roof and walls with a 6x18" center roof beam, 36' long. Materials would have been cheaper. I would have had a building in 2 days. But the cost of a crane and erecting crew made it much more expensive in the long run. A steel framed building is very nice. Please post pictures along the way. Quote Selected
Re: RV barn update Reply #42 – June 12, 2019, 01:49:59 pm getting 13 foot structural members out of a box truck, the liftgate will be useless. why it would take me all day with lots of breaks to bust up the bundles and carry it out piece by piece. what fool would ship it that way, cant drag & fork it out without risking bending them. Quote Selected
Re: RV barn update Reply #43 – June 12, 2019, 02:19:25 pm "Any chance your erection contractor could unload and place the materials where they want them? "We're the erection team. I want to see how far I can go doing it with a little help from Kristi and a couple of friends during critical phases. I can get an off road forklift with telescoping boom for the rafter/stud sections and a scissor lift for working overhead. I've talked to a couple of contractors who won't touch the project. Quote Selected
Re: RV barn update Reply #44 – June 12, 2019, 03:23:33 pm Quote from: Chuck Pearson – June 04, 2019, 04:53:10 pmSven, I see you didn't use a vapor barrier. That means your slab is very unlikely to develop surface cracks, believe it or not. That's one reason driveways typically don't develop surface cracks and house slabs do. No idea of what the mechanics are other than possibly the barrier inhibits hydration below, and surface cures more quickly leading to stress in the surface. The purpose of a vapor barrier, somewhat misnamed, is to prevent the ground from absorbing the water out of the concrete and interfereing with the hydration process. Quote Selected
Re: RV barn update Reply #45 – June 12, 2019, 04:00:01 pm Quote from: TGordon – June 12, 2019, 03:23:33 pmThe purpose of a vapor barrier, somewhat misnamed, is to prevent the ground from absorbing the water out of the concrete and interfereing with the hydration process.They wet the soil (soaked) before the pour, hopefully that took care of it. Good information for those planning a project. Quote Selected
Re: RV barn update Reply #46 – June 12, 2019, 07:48:19 pm Quote from: TGordon – June 12, 2019, 03:23:33 pmThe purpose of a vapor barrier, somewhat misnamed, is to prevent the ground from absorbing the water out of the concrete and interfereing with the hydration process.Exactly. Modifies the hydration process. Unbalanced cure leads to stress in air exposed top surface= shrinkage cracks. Sven, do you have any kind of auto screw feeder for the 3 million screws you will be driving? I have one I can loan, but you will most likely need to get the proper nosepiece for it. It's a Quik Drive. Quote Selected
Re: RV barn update Reply #47 – June 12, 2019, 11:55:13 pm Quote from: Sven and Kristi – June 12, 2019, 02:19:25 pm"Any chance your erection contractor could unload and place the materials where they want them? "We're the erection team. I want to see how far I can go doing it with a little help from Kristi and a couple of friends during critical phases. I can get an off road forklift with telescoping boom for the rafter/stud sections and a scissor lift for working overhead. I've talked to a couple of contractors who won't touch the project.On a night, with a full moon, at midnight, throw some blue pills at it; it will erect itself. Quote Selected
Re: RV barn update Reply #48 – June 13, 2019, 12:00:18 am Quote from: TGordon – June 12, 2019, 11:55:13 pmOn a night, with a full moon, at midnight, throw some blue pills at it; it will erect itself.Best response I've seen on this post in two years! Quote Selected
Re: RV barn update Reply #49 – July 14, 2019, 03:51:51 pm Finally getting ready to go up. Kristi and I experimented with the first section and tomorrow ("erection day") a couple of friends will help erect the rest of it. It has been a long road, but we had to wait until the temps got up to around 100. Always wanted an erector set.... Quote Selected
Re: RV barn update Reply #50 – July 14, 2019, 06:38:46 pm Looks great! Brings back memories lol... Quote Selected
Re: RV barn update Reply #51 – July 15, 2019, 09:09:03 am Looks great. I have seen Susan do the same dance as Kristi is doing. It is great that you are doing this together with the help of friends. Quote Selected
Re: RV barn update Reply #52 – July 15, 2019, 09:38:44 am Cuure do you have a pic of it finished? Quote Selected
Re: RV barn update Reply #53 – July 15, 2019, 11:07:08 am Sven,Are you using 4,000 PSI crete? 6 inch with wire mesh poured right will have no issues concerning weight. It really needs to be cooled with water for three days to cure before loading it. I am not sure why you would need to follow municipal codes if not listed with the secretary of State as a corporation? You can also add accelerator to the mix if you like, not much difference in cost. Quote Selected
Re: RV barn update Reply #54 – July 15, 2019, 12:40:33 pm HdffHere is the finished barn. 20x40x14 Quote Selected
Re: RV barn update Reply #55 – July 15, 2019, 03:14:25 pm Quote from: cubesphere – July 15, 2019, 11:07:08 amSven,Are you using 4,000 PSI crete? 6 inch with wire mesh poured right will have no issues concerning weight. It really needs to be cooled with water for three days to cure before loading it. I am not sure why you would need to follow municipal codes if not listed with the secretary of State as a corporation? You can also add accelerator to the mix if you like, not much difference in cost.We are well past the concrete stage. We used #4 (1/2") rebar, 6" thick, 18" on the perimeter. It has cured for about a month now. It is 4000 PSI. Quote Selected
Re: RV barn update Reply #57 – July 15, 2019, 03:21:21 pm With the help of a couple of friends (thanks "rbark"), we got it up in an hour and a half. Quote Selected
Re: RV barn update Reply #58 – July 15, 2019, 03:22:07 pm Quote from: Sven and Kristi – July 15, 2019, 03:21:21 pmWith the help of a couple of friends (thanks "rbark"), we got it up in an hour and a half. The foundation shot is for cubephere. Quote Selected
Re: RV barn update Reply #59 – July 15, 2019, 07:12:24 pm Quote from: Sven and Kristi – July 15, 2019, 03:21:21 pmWith the help of a couple of friends (thanks "rbark"), we got it up in an hour and a half.Looking at your photo of the erected framework, I had a terrible thought. If it was me I'd have somebody remove that big old dead tree.Wouldn't want it to blow down in a storm and damage the new barn! Quote Selected