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Red light on dash

I have an 89 Grandvilla with a 3820 caterpillar.  Can someone tell tell me what this red light is about?

Steve

Re: Red light on dash

Reply #1 –
Not oem  maybe the Williams exhaust brake on light? I sold 89's new
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Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

1095 watts solar
08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4

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After I start the engine, the steady red led light will flash if I press it. The engine will not turn off and will remain running for about five minutes even after the ignition key is turned off and removed.  If I don't press it, the light will remain on steady, and shut off normally!  Strange aftermarket item.  I cannot find any documentation on this light anywhere !

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Not oem for sure, my exhaust brake system which also used a Williams valve looks like this picture,  lever can be used to increase or decrease exhaust back pressure on the fly based on a dash mounted exhaust backpressure guage. I leave it in automatic position for the most of the time as I do not not want to forget and float the exhaust valves and destroy the engine. Williams guillotine valve still worrks well since components are protected and not exposed to the main exhaust stream.
Old Phart Phred, EIEIO
89 GV ored 36' #3405 300 hp cat 3208 ATAAC side radiator, mountain tamer exhaust brake

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Reply #4 –
Strange, turbo protrection shut down system and pre oiler or post oiler I have no idea. I have a mystery switch under where your Williams tag is located.
Old Phart Phred, EIEIO
89 GV ored 36' #3405 300 hp cat 3208 ATAAC side radiator, mountain tamer exhaust brake

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Quote from: Old phart phred –
turbo protrection shut down system...
That is my guess.  Do a Google search for "diesel turbo protection timer" and you'll get lots of hits for similar devices.

Can you trace the wires from the light and see where they go?  Might go to some kind of electronic module buried behind dash.
1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
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Quote from: S.Fishlips –
I have an 89 Grandvilla with a 3820 caterpillar.  Can someone tell tell me what this red light is about?

Steve
We have one. I *think* we have the documentation.

What we have here . . . Is a five minute cool down timer.  Press the button, turn off the ignition switch and walk away.  After five minutes the engine will stop running.  Since we never know how hard the engine has really been running when we stop,  we use the timer every time.  Cheap insurance against heat related failures.  Sure beats sitting with your hand on the collective watching the second hand on the clock.
1992 Foretravel Grand Villa
U225 SBID Build No. 4134
1986 Rockwood Driftwood
1968 S.I.A.T.A. Spring
1962 Studebaker Lark
1986 Honda VF700C
1983 Honda VF750C
Charlie, the Dog was broken out of jail 24 Oct 2023
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AA1OH (H)e who must be obeyed.

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Good idea, I suppose, if you pull directly off a highway into a rest area and want to immediately shut down your engine.

In our experience, by the time we get off the highway, find the RV park (or the dry camping area), get checked in, and actually get our coach parked...the engine has had more than enough idling time to cool down.

1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
"Nature abhors a vacuum"

Re: Red light on dash

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Thank you, thank you, thank you!  When I accidentally pressed it,  I started freaking out because the engine wouldn't shut off!  Tore into the dashboard,  removed and tested ignition switch, applied some percussive persuasion to the relay switch and nothing worked.  If it's not too much of a hassle, could you scan me a copy of the documents for this timer? Your help has really been appreciated. Oh, by the way, "hand on the collective" two minute shutdown...hmmm?  Helicopter pilot?  Bell products products ?

Steve

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Reply #9 –
Electronic Detroits and CATs come with a "idle" shutdown after 5 minutes programmed into the ECU. It's not a default setting so would have to be turned on. A ProLink 9000 can activate/de-activate. Password is usually 0000. Your mechanical engine may have had this installed but suggest you call a CAT shop.

Pierce
Pierce and Gaylie Stewart
'93 U300/36 WTBI
Detroit 6V-92TA Jake
1140 watts on the roof
SBFD (ret)

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Quote from: S.Fishlips –
Thank you, thank you, thank you!  When I accidentally pressed it,  I started freaking out because the engine wouldn't shut off!  Tore into the dashboard,  removed and tested ignition switch, applied some percussive persuasion to the relay switch and nothing worked.  If it's not too much of a hassle, could you scan me a copy of the documents for this timer? Your help has really been appreciated. Oh, by the way, "hand on the collective" two minute shutdown...hmmm?  Helicopter pilot?  Bell products products ?

Steve
Hiller.  The 6-cylinder Franklin didn't like all the lead in the 100/130 and would solder exhaust valves open if not cooled before shut down.

I'll see if I can scan and upload the documents tomorrow.  I was lucky.  That button was the first thing Lynn showed me after he returned home with our GV.
1992 Foretravel Grand Villa
U225 SBID Build No. 4134
1986 Rockwood Driftwood
1968 S.I.A.T.A. Spring
1962 Studebaker Lark
1986 Honda VF700C
1983 Honda VF750C
Charlie, the Dog was broken out of jail 24 Oct 2023
N1RPN
AA1OH (H)e who must be obeyed.

Re: Red light on dash

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Quote from: S.Fishlips –
Thank you, thank you, thank you!  When I accidentally pressed it,  I started freaking out because the engine wouldn't shut off!  Tore into the dashboard,  removed and tested ignition switch, applied some percussive persuasion to the relay switch and nothing worked.  If it's not too much of a hassle, could you scan me a copy of the documents for this timer? Your help has really been appreciated. Oh, by the way, "hand on the collective" two minute shutdown...hmmm?  Helicopter pilot?  Bell products products ?

Steve
And here is the cartoon provided by the maker of the shut down timer.

1992 Foretravel Grand Villa
U225 SBID Build No. 4134
1986 Rockwood Driftwood
1968 S.I.A.T.A. Spring
1962 Studebaker Lark
1986 Honda VF700C
1983 Honda VF750C
Charlie, the Dog was broken out of jail 24 Oct 2023
N1RPN
AA1OH (H)e who must be obeyed.