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Dodged a bullet

Moving the coach up to Payson, AZ in heavy traffic I spotted something in the road, no room to change lanes, tried to move over as much as I could, but clipped the object (looked like a alternator) with my curbside outside dual. No place to pull over, coach felt o.k. so I limped her to our campsite. No coach damage, but the tire was shot! It had held air. Local tire guys had no clue what Michelin I had or where they could get one. Called the firm in Phoenix that installed them a few years ago, they had one and sent a service truck up to Payson (80 miles, one way). He did a nice, quick job, so all that's left is to go toe-to-toe with the insurance company (Foremost). News at eleven how it goes and WHAT they are going to cover. The bill was $1,300.00. A fresh Michelin XRV  255/80R/22.5 tire is $750.00 with new valve stem & dual seal cap. The rest is 'portal to portal' travel & dismount/mount. The good thing? Heck, I could have splattered the coach all over the road: done big time damage. So, the day starts with a call to Foremost. Wonder if I should take some 'nerve medicine' (Jamesons) before I call?  ^.^d
1993 U-240 "La Villa Grande"..CAT 3116 w/ Pacbrake PRXB...Allison 3060 6-speed..
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Reply #1
One of those unlucky and lucky ordeals.. Impossible to miss everything that lays in the road. Couple weeks ago headed to Florida and was on 220 in Shreveport I was running behind traffic that blocked my view of the road ahead and ran over 3 pieces of  4x8 concrete mesh wire. I knew this wasn't going to be pretty but they all lay flat on the pavement and I heard no sounds and never found evidence of one wire sticking anything.. I hope insurance steps up and does the right thing for you. in my 3 and 1/2 million mile career the oddest thing I ran over with a semi was a set of bed box springs in Ky one night. I drug it about 1/8 mile and it made quiet a rooster tail of sparks.. No damage.. Ran over an aluminum 16 ft ladder in Dallas one day that feel off a truck in front of me again no damage.. Didn't mean to make this about me but you brought back memories Mike.
Dub McBride 1996 270

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Reply #2
Yeah... double shot of Jamesons and get the one in charge on the phone and give him the business.. Might wait until he says no to the claim because he will probably pay the claim before you give him the business....
Dub McBride 1996 270

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Reply #3
Doesn't look like you had many miles on the damaged tire, so the new tire should match the inside dual pretty well (diameter wise).
1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
"Nature abhors a vacuum"

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Reply #4
That sucks Mike. But fortunate that more damage wasn't done.

I tried to file a claim against South Dakota who were treating I-90 24 hours before a snow storm was expected. Had no idea that the snow plow I was passing on the way to work on a sunny windless mourning was throwing chips. My Jeep YJ got loads of chips in the paint and broke the windshield in 10 places.

The states response, BITE ME. We Aren't responsible for road hazards.

I guess you have to decide concerning your deductible and whether they might raise your rates for the claim. I hope every thing goes your way.
I say have a wee dram.
Jerry & Nona and Kimeru the cat that thinks she's a dog
1998 36' WTFE U320  #5314 Motorcade #17711
USAF 1975-1995
2019 Subaru Crosstrek 'toad'
2003 Subaru Legacy touring car
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Reply #5
Well, phone call #1 went well; hope to do this on-line rather than cell. Speaking with 'The Claims Adjuster' is next. Hope it's not a 'good cop, bad cop' deal! One cool thing was I was able to send the pic of the damaged tire: so far, so good.  ^.^d  I prolly would pass, rather than have my rates go up (plus at age 73, that starts to not be in my favor). But with a $500.00 deductible, I figure they owe me around $800.00, which is worth fighting for!
1993 U-240 "La Villa Grande"..CAT 3116 w/ Pacbrake PRXB...Allison 3060 6-speed..
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                        DW Judy & Chet the wonder dog
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Reply #6
Interesting, mounting the tire, onto the wheel, with the wheel mounted on the coach.
Was the tire remove from the wheel while mounted on the coach?

Tim
Tim Dianics
Pam Sapienza
Vader PupZilla Labrador Canine Beast (AKA Pup)
Columbia, MO
1996 U320 4000
2021 Jeep Gladiator, Diesel

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Reply #7
For a tire man it's easier with wheel mounted. Saves work.
Dub McBride 1996 270

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Reply #8
Yup, he had a air-powered jack, up she came, opened up the valve stem to drain (scared the hell out of the neighbors!) and put the fresh one on. So far, Foremost has been good; wanted a pic of the vin# tag, pic of the damage & invoice from Redburn.  They are going to waive the deductible, deduct the age of the tire 10/20% and cut me a on-line bank transfer. This is lookin' good!
1993 U-240 "La Villa Grande"..CAT 3116 w/ Pacbrake PRXB...Allison 3060 6-speed..
Previous: 1983 Airstream 310 turbo diesel, 1979 Airstream 280 turbo diesel
                                      Build # 4297
                                      PNW natives
                      Home base:  'Cactus Hug' (Ajo, Arizona)
                        DW Judy & Chet the wonder dog
                        Full-Timers 'Sailing the asphalt sea'


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Reply #10
Yup, he had a air-powered jack, up she came, opened up the valve stem to drain (scared the hell out of the neighbors!) and put the fresh one on. So far, Foremost has been good; wanted a pic of the vin# tag, pic of the damage & invoice from Redburn.  They are going to waive the deductible, deduct the age of the tire 10/20% and cut me a on-line bank transfer. This is lookin' good!

RESULT. You had better buy a bottle of the really good stuff. Then open it and share it with me. ^.^d
Jerry & Nona and Kimeru the cat that thinks she's a dog
1998 36' WTFE U320  #5314 Motorcade #17711
USAF 1975-1995
2019 Subaru Crosstrek 'toad'
2003 Subaru Legacy touring car
jerry Fincher | Flickr

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Reply #11
RESULT. You had better buy a bottle of the really good stuff. Then open it and share it with me. ^.^d 
Little early to be uncorking the smooth stuff; "it's not over until it's over." ::)
1993 U-240 "La Villa Grande"..CAT 3116 w/ Pacbrake PRXB...Allison 3060 6-speed..
Previous: 1983 Airstream 310 turbo diesel, 1979 Airstream 280 turbo diesel
                                      Build # 4297
                                      PNW natives
                      Home base:  'Cactus Hug' (Ajo, Arizona)
                        DW Judy & Chet the wonder dog
                        Full-Timers 'Sailing the asphalt sea'

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Reply #12
Interesting, mounting the tire, onto the wheel, with the wheel mounted on the coach.
Was the tire remove from the wheel while mounted on the coach?

Tim
Done this way all the time in the big truck world.  Easy peasy and saves time by not ruining studs etc.

jk
Jack and Cathy
1992 U280 Unihome 36' Build #4034
Cummins 8.3 /  Allison MT647/ PacBrake
Apopka, FL / Barre Center, NY

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Reply #13
Done this way all the time in the big truck world.  Easy peasy and saves time by not ruining studs etc.
As it turned out, he was ordered to check the torque (as I requested because I thought the studs had to come off).  thus the great thing about a outside tire going bad, no torque checking!
1993 U-240 "La Villa Grande"..CAT 3116 w/ Pacbrake PRXB...Allison 3060 6-speed..
Previous: 1983 Airstream 310 turbo diesel, 1979 Airstream 280 turbo diesel
                                      Build # 4297
                                      PNW natives
                      Home base:  'Cactus Hug' (Ajo, Arizona)
                        DW Judy & Chet the wonder dog
                        Full-Timers 'Sailing the asphalt sea'

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Reply #14
Little early to be uncorking the smooth stuff; "it's not over until it's over." ::)

I agree Mike, but hopefully, they will step up and take care of you!  Glad there was no damage to the coach, as a tire blowout can be costly!
Joe & Dottie Allen
Sold!  December 2023.      2000 U320; build # 5645
Our coach " Maxine"
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Reply #15
I agree Mike, but hopefully, they will step up and take care of you!  Glad there was no damage to the coach, as a tire blowout can be costly!
So far, so good. They're going to deduct 20% for the tire wear and direct-deposit the rest. The REP did say, too few people take pics to help the adjuster be fair !  ^.^d
1993 U-240 "La Villa Grande"..CAT 3116 w/ Pacbrake PRXB...Allison 3060 6-speed..
Previous: 1983 Airstream 310 turbo diesel, 1979 Airstream 280 turbo diesel
                                      Build # 4297
                                      PNW natives
                      Home base:  'Cactus Hug' (Ajo, Arizona)
                        DW Judy & Chet the wonder dog
                        Full-Timers 'Sailing the asphalt sea'

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Reply #16
Mike,

What is the date code on the other tires?

An option if they are not close to new is next time it is convenient, buy one more new one and mount the one you just got and the new one of the front axle.  Always better to have best tires on front.

BTW, price using the FMCA Michelin program is $545.03 including FET.  You add any state tax and mounting/balancing.
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
Moderator, ForeForum 2001-
Moderator Diesel RV Club 2002-
Moderator, FMCA Forum 2009-2020
Chairman FMCA Technical Advisory Committee 2011-2020

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Reply #17
Mike,

What is the date code on the other tires?

An option if they are not close to new is next time it is convenient, buy one more new one and mount the one you just got and the new one of the front axle.  Always better to have best tires on front.

BTW, price using the FMCA Michelin program is $545.03 including FET.  You add any state tax and mounting/balancing.
Good idea, and I'd thought about that, too. My files show 5/13. The tech told me the tire wear on the inside dual was very close to the fresh one he installed.  No clue what the FMCA Michelin program is, or, if it would have counted in a emergency: good point, though. ^.^d
1993 U-240 "La Villa Grande"..CAT 3116 w/ Pacbrake PRXB...Allison 3060 6-speed..
Previous: 1983 Airstream 310 turbo diesel, 1979 Airstream 280 turbo diesel
                                      Build # 4297
                                      PNW natives
                      Home base:  'Cactus Hug' (Ajo, Arizona)
                        DW Judy & Chet the wonder dog
                        Full-Timers 'Sailing the asphalt sea'

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Reply #18
Good idea, and I'd thought about that, too. My files show 5/13. The tech told me the tire wear on the inside dual was very close to the fresh one he installed.  No clue what the FMCA Michelin program is, or, if it would have counted in a emergency: good point, though. ^.^d

FMCA program is for FMCA Members: RV Tires - FMCA Tire Program | FMCA
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
Moderator, ForeForum 2001-
Moderator Diesel RV Club 2002-
Moderator, FMCA Forum 2009-2020
Chairman FMCA Technical Advisory Committee 2011-2020

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Reply #19
Mike,

We had a tree fall on our U300 that took out the engine door (I was inside the house) and did a little FG damage. I took photos talked to the Foremost agent. She looked at the photos and asked if $3500 was OK. No deductable. Sent a check. I never have been able to find another engine access door but have the $3500. (96 inch coach engine doors are not wide enough) Will probable just make one.

Pierce
Pierce and Gaylie Stewart
'93 U300/36 WTBI
Detroit 6V-92TA Jake
1140 watts on the roof
SBFD (ret)

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Reply #20
We'll see. This (less -20% tire wear) is what THEY promised to cop to.
1993 U-240 "La Villa Grande"..CAT 3116 w/ Pacbrake PRXB...Allison 3060 6-speed..
Previous: 1983 Airstream 310 turbo diesel, 1979 Airstream 280 turbo diesel
                                      Build # 4297
                                      PNW natives
                      Home base:  'Cactus Hug' (Ajo, Arizona)
                        DW Judy & Chet the wonder dog
                        Full-Timers 'Sailing the asphalt sea'

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Reply #21
Pierce - Check Krueger, Titus, Price, nailor, carne's, or others websites should find something similar, they build this semi custom HVAC grilles by the millions as every commercial building needs them. Pick your frame style and material, hinge side, louver style and spacing, louver material and color, louver orientation H or V based on width. I bet they can also do locks. Heck you can also get ones that hold 1 or 2 inch air filters if you so desired for some reason. $300? Shipping might be expensive so maybe look for one with a CA facility. Mine look like standard HVAC grilles.
Old Phart Phred, EIEIO
89 GV ored 36' #3405 300 hp cat 3208 ATAAC side radiator, mountain tamer exhaust brake

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Reply #22
Pierce - Check Krueger, Titus, Price, nailor, carne's, or others websites should find something similar, they build this semi custom HVAC grilles by the millions as every commercial building needs them. Pick your frame style and material, hinge side, louver style and spacing, louver material and color, louver orientation H or V based on width. I bet they can also do locks. Heck you can also get ones that hold 1 or 2 inch air filters if you so desired for some reason. $300? Shipping might be expensive so maybe look for one with a CA facility. Mine look like standard HVAC grilles.
Huh??????
1993 U-240 "La Villa Grande"..CAT 3116 w/ Pacbrake PRXB...Allison 3060 6-speed..
Previous: 1983 Airstream 310 turbo diesel, 1979 Airstream 280 turbo diesel
                                      Build # 4297
                                      PNW natives
                      Home base:  'Cactus Hug' (Ajo, Arizona)
                        DW Judy & Chet the wonder dog
                        Full-Timers 'Sailing the asphalt sea'

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Reply #23
Final report and ten points to Foremost Insurance. They paid the entire claim and made a electronic deposit this morning! They did deduct for the age of the trashed tire, which I thought was fair. So, my claim was $1,317.00 and I now have $1,170.00 !!!! They could have played games, like my $500.00 deductible or the fact my roadside assistance is $250.00 each disablement, but they stepped up, quickly and friendly. Pretty nice service, I'd say!  ^.^d  b^.^d
1993 U-240 "La Villa Grande"..CAT 3116 w/ Pacbrake PRXB...Allison 3060 6-speed..
Previous: 1983 Airstream 310 turbo diesel, 1979 Airstream 280 turbo diesel
                                      Build # 4297
                                      PNW natives
                      Home base:  'Cactus Hug' (Ajo, Arizona)
                        DW Judy & Chet the wonder dog
                        Full-Timers 'Sailing the asphalt sea'

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Reply #24
Excellent news and tanks guys for the tip about the door.

P
Pierce and Gaylie Stewart
'93 U300/36 WTBI
Detroit 6V-92TA Jake
1140 watts on the roof
SBFD (ret)