Floor update with slide.

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Re: Started the flooring removal!

Reply #25 – June 18, 2019, 10:55:19 am

Here is a photo of the AH heater mounted vertical on the wall. Will have to get some trim to dress it up, but should work fine there. Had enough room to install the electric box and plug both recliners in.

Re: Started the flooring removal!

Reply #26 – June 18, 2019, 11:33:31 am

Bedroom does have special expensive sound deadening padding FOT left it down and added a new layer of quality regular carpet padding on top rather than replace. Way cheaper and very cushy.

Re: Started the flooring removal!

Reply #27 – June 18, 2019, 02:45:08 pm

We had the same black vinyl/lead foam padding in the cockpit area under the carpet as in the bedroom. As others have stated, in the kitchen, the wood floor was glued down on a metal substrate that was in turn glued to the plywood subfloor. Removing the metal sheeting resulted in damage to the subfloor. I used West Systems epoxy with fiberglass cloth patches cut to the shape of the divots in the worst places and just mixed with glass bead faring filler in the rest. I initially put in Bamboo flooring over quarter inch cork underlayment from the bedroom up to the cockpit area (boundary defined by the forward most edge of the sofa) and left the carpet in the cockpit. Subsequently, upon removing the carpet from the cockpit area and choosing a luxury floating vinyl tile, I used (what passes for these days

) quarter inch plywood under a roll of 5/16" rubber gym flooring. This combined with the 5mm thickness of the vinyl tile, resulted in a level floor from cockpit to bedroom with no transitions. The 5/16" rubber gym flooring is extremely dense. The OEM black vinyl/lead foam would have been much to soft under the click lock vinyl tile, I believe that the rubber gym flooring material provides a suitable substrate for the floating vinyl tile flooring (though I doubt the manufacturer would agree

) as well as provide some sound damping properties. I hope I live long enough to wear the flooring out... if so, redoing it would be much easier the next time!
Don

Quote from: Jack Lewis – June 18, 2019, 03:53:46 am

Looks terrific. Please elaborate on removal of kitchen wood floor and also what you did about rubber sound deading to level in front area and also if it was in bedroom area. Was there tile in bathroom? You mentioned leveling material, what did you use?

Re: Started the flooring removal!

Reply #28 – June 18, 2019, 04:13:42 pm

don't they make the same stairnose trim as your floor?

Re: Started the flooring removal!

Reply #29 – June 18, 2019, 04:27:20 pm

Mine I removed after install and powder coated it oil rubbed bronze.. holding great.

Re: Started the flooring removal!

Reply #30 – June 18, 2019, 04:52:33 pm

Quote from: erniee – June 18, 2019, 04:13:42 pm

don't they make the same stairnose trim as your floor?

They do for mine Ernie. Order came in today, so another busy day tomorrow! Will pick up wood for mounting TV over top of Jack Knife sofa. May take sofa out later, but right now, DW is winning out keeping the sofa for the time being!

Re: Started the flooring removal!

Reply #31 – June 18, 2019, 04:56:21 pm

Quote from: DavidS – June 18, 2019, 04:27:20 pm

Mine I removed after install and powder coated it oil rubbed bronze.. holding great.

Great idea David!

Re: Started the flooring removal!

Reply #32 – June 18, 2019, 09:48:14 pm

Joe, Don,
Your floors both look great. Did you glue down the flooring directly to the subfloor or are they floating floors?

Thanks for the info.

Re: Started the flooring removal!

Reply #33 – June 19, 2019, 12:21:47 am

In my case, the flooring is floating. It sits on top of ¼" cork in the case of the bamboo and on 5/16" rubber sheet in the cockpit, so gluing not an option. Besides, I may be the one to change it down the road and I wanted to make it easy on myself!
Don

Quote from: MarkC – June 18, 2019, 09:48:14 pm

Joe, Don,
Your floors both look great. Did you glue down the flooring directly to the subfloor or are they floating floors?

Thanks for the info.

Re: Started the flooring removal!

Reply #34 – June 19, 2019, 09:58:06 am

Quote from: MarkC – June 18, 2019, 09:48:14 pm

Joe, Don,
Your floors both look great. Did you glue down the flooring directly to the subfloor or are they floating floors?

Thanks for the info.

Mark, if you don't have a slide in your coach, then a floating floor is not a problem. However, I have a slide and the floor has to be glued to keep it from moving with the weight of the slide. I and many others glue the vinyl or laminate flooring to the plywood.

Re: Started the flooring removal!

Reply #35 – June 19, 2019, 09:59:53 am

Quote from: Don & Tys – June 19, 2019, 12:21:47 am

In my case, the flooring is floating. It sits on top of ¼" cork in the case of the bamboo and on 5/16" rubber sheet in the cockpit, so gluing not an option. Besides, I may be the one to change it down the road and I wanted to make it easy on myself!
Don

Don, your work is amazing! You take great pains in addressing all the small as well as large details in your improvements of your coach. I am humbled by your work!

Re: Started the flooring removal!

Reply #36 – June 19, 2019, 11:34:17 am

Back at you Joe! I would like to consider replacing the sofa with theater seating one of these days, but I store three guitars and a few other things under there, not to mention Tys likes to stretch out on the sofa... but I still have a lot of interior projects in mind, so you never know.
Don

Quote from: juicesqueezer – June 19, 2019, 09:59:53 am

Don, your work is amazing! You take great pains in addressing all the small as well as large details in your improvements of your coach. I am humbled by your work!

Re: Started the flooring removal!

Reply #37 – June 20, 2019, 04:34:11 am

Anyone know what years FT put the steel substrate under the kitchen wood floor? Mine is a U295, 1997, build 5040. It would be nice to know, making a difference whether I'd remove the wood when I replace the flooring.

Don. thank you for the update, your information.will be useful to many.

Re: Started the flooring removal!

Reply #38 – June 20, 2019, 08:58:47 am

Jack, I would call FOT and speak with David Flanagan in the remodeling department. He would know for sure! He has been very helpful to me on any questions I have asked in the past!

Re: Started the flooring removal!

Reply #39 – June 20, 2019, 12:02:06 pm

Not a specific answer to your question, but while I was in a death match against that 16 Sq. Ft. of devil inspired flooring, I pondered long and hard as to why FOT would do it this way. It occurred to me that it was likely a way to speed up production assembly line style back when they were making ~200 coaches per year give or take. I think they assembled the floors laid out on the the sheet metal, glued them down to the sheet metal, stacked them away. When a coach reached the stage of completion where it was time for flooring, they carried the whole assembly into the coach and glued it down. Bam! done... So I imagine that any of the coaches that have the roughly 2' by the length of the kitchen counter/Fridge area, are probably done the same way. It probably explains why the size of the area covered by wood flooring is the size it is. I doubt if any larger fully assembled section of flooring could conveniently be moved or stored.
DON

Quote from: Jack Lewis – June 20, 2019, 04:34:11 am

Anyone know what years FT put the steel substrate under the kitchen wood floor? Mine is a U295, 1997, build 5040. It would be nice to know, making a difference whether I'd remove the wood when I replace the flooring.

Don. thank you for the update, your information.will be useful to many.

Re: Started the flooring removal!

Reply #40 – June 20, 2019, 02:05:59 pm

Received the stair bullnose yesterday and got busy this morning. Trim around the steps is done. Still need to figure out what I want to replace the carpet on the sides with. Even thought about FRP board. Ideas?

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Reply #41 – June 20, 2019, 02:12:28 pm

In another rv, I used the same on the side walls as the flooring I installed.

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Reply #42 – June 21, 2019, 07:12:44 pm

Got the TV mounted over the jack knife sofa. Need to get the trim back on to dress it up! We don't have any trouble reading the print on the TV guide now! lol

Re: Started the flooring removal!

Reply #43 – June 24, 2019, 02:06:32 pm

Well, in between lots of rain, wind and lightning, finally got the valances mounted back behind the TV. Dresses it up, but photo is a little dark.

Re: Started the flooring removal!

Reply #44 – June 24, 2019, 02:39:36 pm

Wondering if there is a way to change the title of this blog?

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Reply #45 – June 24, 2019, 02:54:34 pm

Quote from: juicesqueezer – June 24, 2019, 02:39:36 pm

Wondering if there is a way to change the title of this blog?

Sure. As original poster, go to the first post, click on "edit" and change it.

Brett

Re: Started the flooring removal!

Reply #46 – June 24, 2019, 04:19:29 pm

Quote from: wolfe10 – June 24, 2019, 02:54:34 pm

Sure. As original poster, go to the first post, click on "edit" and change it.

Brett

Thanks Brett

Re: Floor update with slide.

Reply #47 – June 25, 2019, 12:40:10 am

Joe, looking great. Nice, quality, job. Thanks to you and others who shared their information in this thread. As a similar project is in my future, I take great interest in creative remodels, such as yours.

Re: Floor update with slide.

Reply #48 – June 25, 2019, 02:58:40 pm

@juicesqueezer How did you address the slide and difference in heights of the new flooring vs. the carpet & pad? I'm assuming the new flooring is "shorter" than the old? Did you adjust the angle iron/UHMW slide supports along the base of the slide to adjust the height? Did you put felt or some other "soft" fabric on the bottom of the UHMW to keep from scratching up your new floor?

Re: Floor update with slide.

Reply #49 – June 25, 2019, 03:54:45 pm

Quote from: evantwheeler – June 25, 2019, 02:58:40 pm

@juicesqueezer How did you address the slide and difference in heights of the new flooring vs. the carpet & pad? I'm assuming the new flooring is "shorter" than the old? Did you adjust the angle iron/UHMW slide supports along the base of the slide to adjust the height? Did you put felt or some other "soft" fabric on the bottom of the UHMW to keep from scratching up your new floor?
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When I removed the carpet and pad and removing all the tack strips, nails, etc., I started laying out the floor at the slide and working my way back towards the sink area. The flooring is 3/8 inch thick and it fit snugly under the slide curved teflon pads. On our coach, we have 1 long guide and 2 shorter ones. The flooring fit snugly under that area. I laid the flooring around the two pin block locks. I glued and screwed the first run of flooring and then glued the rest. I did not adjust the angle iron with the teflon under it, as it seem to be at the right height. Before I removed the carpet, you could see the indentations in the carpet where the guides stopped when slide was in. I am hoping that those teflon pads will not mar the flooring. I am going to bring the slide in tomorrow, as I have to jack up the coach to finish installing the bolts for the drivers captain chair. I plan on removing all the covers and slowly watch how the slide reacts and make sure that locks engage. May have to have several beers before trying! lol One thing I don't want to do is just retract the slide thinking all will be okay. A little at a time will be much better for sure! Will post my results! Wish me luck and a prayer or two will be okay as well.

I do know others have used thinner flooring and had no issues, so with this flooring fitting snugly under pads, it should work fine with no tipping of slide or locking issues.

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