Floor update with slide.

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Floor update with slide.

June 14, 2019, 04:00:31 pm

Well, spent close to 4 hours non stop yesterday in ripping out the carpet. Getting the carpet out from under the slide was the real issue, but got that done. The next 4.5 hours was chiseling out the glued down hardwood floor and wondering why they glued this down to start with. I basically used a flat bar with lots of swinging the hammer. Tried heat and an undercut saw to no avail! Will be posting photos as I go to help others who may decide to undertake this endeavor! lol
Our powered recliners arrived yesterday, like 5 days earlier than they said. Not a good thing when you have half of the coach tore out with the captain chairs laying on the Jack Knife sofa and tools scattered everywhere. The joys of remodeling!
The flooring I will be installing is SmartCore Ultra, which uses patent CoreTec technology! This is a lock together vinyl rubber flooring that is approx 1/4 inch thick.

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Reply #1 – June 14, 2019, 04:19:54 pm

Floor level compound and sanding coming up next!

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Reply #2 – June 14, 2019, 04:31:55 pm

Will look sweet when finished.

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Reply #3 – June 14, 2019, 04:37:39 pm

Thanks Dub! Can't see paying someone else when I feel I can do this myself! I will say it is much harder work than coming in a home and laying 1500 to 2000 sq feet! lol

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Reply #4 – June 14, 2019, 04:53:29 pm

I was awed by how difficult it was to remove the oak parquet. I took up a lot of the plywood substrata, especially removing the sheet
metal under the oak. Foretravel did NOT intend to have the flooring removed. I infilled the the areas that were torn up and the bolt holes with a floor leveler. THEN I installed a 1/4" underlayment. I originally was going to pass on the underlayment, but my old flooring subcontractor suggested that I rethink that. I knew it was necessary. It also helped in taking up the difference of the carpet thickness when I had to deal with the slide. I ended up removing the angle iron on the slide, took off the the plastic slide material, and glued 3/8" thick felt pad on the angle iron to ease the slide over the new floor. Probably should have taken pictures of this....or maybe I did

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Reply #5 – June 14, 2019, 06:28:50 pm

I have done many tasks on our coach sometimes what you think will be a walk in the park actually becomes a crawl through Hell.
One of the worst was the removal of the trash compactor. Foretravel bolted it from below with no regards to if it ever needed to be replaced. I ended up having to cut it out in sections. I was NOT ready for the work and mess.

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Reply #6 – June 14, 2019, 07:18:13 pm

Looks nice!
Was the carpet stapled down all over or just along the edges?
Planning a new floor, probably floating cork on top of a pure cork underlayment this winter.

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Reply #7 – June 14, 2019, 09:14:15 pm

A word of caution....the previous owners of my coach did NOT secure the flooring near the slide properly. $5000.00 later, we have the punctured bladder replaced, believe me the edge near the slide is very securely secured... I stapled the heck out of it ... The slide picked up a few of the new planking, bent them over, and punctured the slide rubber.
Safe Travels
Dave

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Reply #8 – June 14, 2019, 09:20:34 pm

You go Joe!! looks like all you like is "FINISHING UP"
Chris

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Reply #9 – June 14, 2019, 09:24:30 pm

I included the wood flooring into the design of my vinyl tile after reading several posts about the difficulty of getting that flooring up. The carpet was pretty easy, especially without a slide. It took me some time to find a transition, but found something I liked.

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Reply #10 – June 14, 2019, 10:59:41 pm

Looks fantastic!

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Reply #11 – June 14, 2019, 11:02:40 pm

Quote from: Chris m lang – June 14, 2019, 09:20:34 pm

You go Joe!! looks like all you like is "FINISHING UP"
Chris

Thanks Chris! Will be laying out the flooring tomorrow. Had to take a day off to recuperate! lol

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Reply #12 – June 14, 2019, 11:03:39 pm

Quote from: Dave Dunington – June 14, 2019, 09:14:15 pm

A word of caution....the previous owners of my coach did NOT secure the flooring near the slide properly. $5000.00 later, we have the punctured bladder replaced, believe me the edge near the slide is very securely secured... I stapled the heck out of it ... The slide picked up a few of the new planking, bent them over, and punctured the slide rubber.
Safe Travels
Dave

Ouch! Plan on counter sinking stainless steel screws on the first planks under the slide and then glue the rest.

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Reply #13 – June 14, 2019, 11:05:21 pm

Quote from: folivier – June 14, 2019, 07:18:13 pm

Looks nice!
Was the carpet stapled down all over or just along the edges?
Planning a new floor, probably floating cork on top of a pure cork underlayment this winter.

Just like a normal home carpet, lots of staples. I use a flat screw driver and dikes to remove. Just takes patience and wearing gloves to go over the floor to make sure you got all of them!

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Reply #14 – June 16, 2019, 10:57:07 pm

Joe,
When you are done laying the floor and ready to trim out the gap along the perimeter you may want to consider using the InstaTrim. Very clean, easy and durable installation. Made to be used inside and out. It is a flexible pvc material and will go real easy around those fancy rounded Foretravel corners. When I did my coach I used wood trim. A lot of work, staining, installing and in and out of the coach. The rounded corners were a challenge. I believe you will be impressed with the InstaTrim. Comes in I believe 5 colors. We are getting ready to change out the floor in our park model and we are going to use the product. You will find a lot of uses for the product.
John M.

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Reply #15 – June 17, 2019, 06:47:58 am

I cut the new flooring tight against the walls- no trim required

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Reply #16 – June 17, 2019, 08:13:32 am

Quote from: John Morales – June 16, 2019, 10:57:07 pm

Joe,
When you are done laying the floor and ready to trim out the gap along the perimeter you may want to consider using the InstaTrim. Very clean, easy and durable installation. Made to be used inside and out. It is a flexible pvc material and will go real easy around those fancy rounded Foretravel corners. When I did my coach I used wood trim. A lot of work, staining, installing and in and out of the coach. The rounded corners were a challenge. I believe you will be impressed with the InstaTrim. Comes in I believe 5 colors. We are getting ready to change out the floor in our park model and we are going to use the product. You will find a lot of uses for the product.
John M.

InstaTrim Self-Adhesive Trim Strips | InstaTrim Self-Adhesive Trim Strips

Great idea for the finished edge. I did take my time in fitting the flooring tight to the cabinets. The round corners are a challenge for sure. I have also used caulking matched up to the wood to finish out the job. A small tight bead will look nice, but again, patience grasshopper, patience!

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Reply #17 – June 17, 2019, 08:50:22 am

Ernie,
I like to cut flooring tight to the wall, also, but the info on the product box, Heritage Mill, wanted a 3/8" gap for expansion/contraction. I , personally, have never seen flooring move that much, especially in a small area like the bedroom of the coach, but I did allow for a gap. I will look into the Insta Trim, if I can figure out where to buy some. It seems you are not concerned with "movement." I come from the school that wood " breathes".

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Reply #18 – June 17, 2019, 10:33:32 am

Glenn,
They have the InstaTrim on Amazon or you can order it directly from the factory on the link I posted.
John M.

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Reply #19 – June 17, 2019, 04:29:12 pm

with all the coaches I have installed, with urethane adhesive, there has never been an issue with any movement, expansion or contraction. This is engineered wood, that I mention as it is dimensionally stable.
I'll keep doing it this way till I'm too old, which is fast approaching

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Reply #20 – June 17, 2019, 08:43:03 pm

Well, finished up this morning, but then had to get the two recliners inside before the rain and hook up the electric. I ended up mounting the living room AH vertically to the wall. With the recliners in place, should be good to go.
Here are a few more photos; The sliding door over the steps was fun and I still haven't decided what I want to replace the carpet on the side walls with yet. Thinking on diamond plate? The work around the drivers compartment was tedious, but am satisfied with the results. Dottie and I are both in our new recliners laid back and looking at a blank wall. Hope to start on the big screen TV tomorrow.

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Reply #21 – June 17, 2019, 08:53:21 pm

Will post photos of the heater tomorrow. Ready to pass out right now! Trim for the steps on order!

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Reply #22 – June 18, 2019, 03:53:46 am

Looks terrific. Please elaborate on removal of kitchen wood floor and also what you did about rubber sound deading to level in front area and also if it was in bedroom area. Was there tile in bathroom? You mentioned leveling material, what did you use?

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Reply #23 – June 18, 2019, 07:14:09 am

When I removed the wooden flooring from my 2001, I was using a two pound sledge and chisels. It was glued down well. Under the wood, there was a metal sheet, also glued down. That took up pieces of the plywood substrata. I used a powder mix given to me by my flooring subcontractor, used by the pros. Don't remember the name, but it is mixed and is self leveling. Did some sanding before installing 1/4 inch ply sub floor. The carpet up front had regular underlayment with a million staples. The underlayment in the bedroom is a dense, black, heavy foam which is also stapled down, although not as many staples. We don't sleep in the bed while driving, so don't notice any difference in sound level. Wouldn't the sound come from under the bed??

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Reply #24 – June 18, 2019, 08:48:35 am

Quote from: Jack Lewis – June 18, 2019, 03:53:46 am

Looks terrific. Please elaborate on removal of kitchen wood floor and also what you did about rubber sound deading to level in front area and also if it was in bedroom area. Was there tile in bathroom? You mentioned leveling material, what did you use?

Jack, as Glen stated, the wood floor was a bear to remove! Same thing, glued down with metal under the flooring and it was glued down as well. I was lucky in that only had two places that needed to be leveled. Purchased product at Lowe's. Can't remember the name, but it is premixed. We have ceramic tile in bath and that is staying for the time being. If I decide to replace later, will go back with more tile. Not sure what you are speaking of with rubber sound deadening. The only thing I removed in living area was the carpet and the padding.

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