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Awning difficult to open?

Our main awning opened with ease but it was very difficult to get the arms to move up and down the slide bars, tried cleaner on the slide bars, used silicone spray, tried waxing and then noticed that the aluminum was being damaged.
At last I did what I should have done first, called ZipDee and the lady there knew exactly what the problem was; the Teflon tape that adheres to three sides of the slider on the end of the arm was worn out. Three days later by mail at no charge, enough tape to make repairs probably 10 times over arrived (that is real service)
Took twenty minutes to cut six 1" pieces and adhere them inside the sliders after removing what was left of the worn tape, and the awning works like new!
David & Emma Roche
Dino (Golden Doodle)
1999 U270 WTFE 36' Build # 5534
Xtreme "Lights, Stripes & Roof"
Motorcade# 18321
Dayton, Ohio
Towd: Jeep Grand Cherokee
Two Townie Electra Bikes

Life is made to enjoy, the Foretravel helps!

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Reply #1
Didn't even realize there IS teflon tape on the inside of the slider.  Good thing to know!  :thumbsup:  Thanx for the tech tip!
1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
"Nature abhors a vacuum"

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Reply #2
Excellent tip. I have the same problem on one of my sliders. I'm calling them Monday. Thanks.
jor
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Reply #4
Me too. They're gunna run out of tape. :D
1994 U280, Build 4490
Deming, NM.

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Reply #5
I'm trying to picture the taping procedure and I wonder if we are talking about the same thing. Is this the slider you're referring to. Thanks.
jor
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Reply #6
I'm trying to picture the taping procedure and I wonder if we are talking about the same thing. Is this the slider you're referring to. Thanks.
jor
That's it.  Think about this for a moment.  The product is non-stick teflon tape, that's sticky on one side.

FWIW I used "axle grease" on mine until I can get around to getting some tape.  If someone comes over and grabs the bar, that's entertainment.
1992 Foretravel Grand Villa
U225 SBID Build No. 4134
1986 Rockwood Driftwood
1968 S.I.A.T.A. Spring
1962 Studebaker Lark
1986 Honda VF700C
1983 Honda VF750C
Charlie, the Dog was broken out of jail 24 Oct 2023
N1RPN
AA1OH (H)e who must be obeyed.

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Reply #7
Somebody told me to vigorously rub the bars upon which the sliders slide with wax paper...which I have done several times.  Seems to help...
1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
"Nature abhors a vacuum"

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Reply #8
Somebody told me to vigorously rub the bars upon which the sliders slide with wax paper...which I have done several times.  Seems to help...
I thought of that but you need an extreme pressure lubricant to keep the two aluminum surfaces apart.  Something the teflon tape does with ease.
1992 Foretravel Grand Villa
U225 SBID Build No. 4134
1986 Rockwood Driftwood
1968 S.I.A.T.A. Spring
1962 Studebaker Lark
1986 Honda VF700C
1983 Honda VF750C
Charlie, the Dog was broken out of jail 24 Oct 2023
N1RPN
AA1OH (H)e who must be obeyed.

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Reply #9
I have one that is missing the black tape/thick plastic also.  Pull out on the bar and guide the little bracket as you slide it up, still hard to do, but I can use mine.
Pat/Blue Angel
1995 U240 36ft
MC# 16511
Build# 4653

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Reply #10
Yes JOR that is the slider,
 the tape is on three sides of the bracket that slides up and down the vertical bar.
You have to remove the awning arm from the slider, then remove one end of the vertical bar and the slide piece comes right off, the old tape comes right out with a flat headed screw driver and you stick in the self adhesive Teflon tape,
David & Emma Roche
Dino (Golden Doodle)
1999 U270 WTFE 36' Build # 5534
Xtreme "Lights, Stripes & Roof"
Motorcade# 18321
Dayton, Ohio
Towd: Jeep Grand Cherokee
Two Townie Electra Bikes

Life is made to enjoy, the Foretravel helps!

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Yes JOR that is the slider,

Thanks, David. Now I get it.
jor
93 225
95 300
97 270
99 320

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Reply #12
Been using WD 40 for years and slides fine. Hey,, for the price I will try tape but I figure the free offer won't be long lived. I do know yanking on a awning on a hot day with wife on one end and me on the other and one  word from me in the wrong tone can piss off a partner that can last a while. May do tape and 40 until the lady sees fit to put on an electric porch.
Dub McBride 1996 270

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Reply #13
Been using WD 40 for years and slides fine. Hey,, for the price I will try tape but I figure the free offer won't be long lived. I do know yanking on a awning on a hot day with wife on one end and me on the other and one  word from me in the wrong tone can piss off a partner that can last a while. May do tape and 40 until the lady sees fit to put on an electric porch.
Maybe for a beer or five, you can show me how to open our's when you come visit; I've not needed it, because of the small ones, but would like to know! Our Airstream awnings, though Zip Dees, were all different. ^.^d
1993 U-240 "La Villa Grande"..CAT 3116 w/ Pacbrake PRXB...Allison 3060 6-speed..
Previous: 1983 Airstream 310 turbo diesel, 1979 Airstream 280 turbo diesel
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                        DW Judy & Chet the wonder dog
                        Full-Timers 'Sailing the asphalt sea'

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Maybe for a beer or five, you can show me how to open our's when you come visit; I've not needed it, because of the small ones, but would like to know! Our Airstream awnings, though Zip Dees, were all different. ^.^d

Use the awning hook to pull down the locks at each end. 

Pull down the pull tab in the middle (just like the small awnings).

If someone has added the small circular locks, open them.  Your coach did not have these.

If the pull tab is not visible, use a person at each end of the awning to unroll it enough to expose the pull tab.  It IS long enough if the awning is properly stowed.

Won't even cost you one beer.
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
Moderator, ForeForum 2001-
Moderator Diesel RV Club 2002-
Moderator, FMCA Forum 2009-2020
Chairman FMCA Technical Advisory Committee 2011-2020

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Reply #15
I watched a youtube video from highway rv dealer 2 years ago.very informative ,as i had no zipdee manual.  Zipdee website has limited drawings. Highway Rv zipdee video is still up.
Watch it several times, good luck
Tom Shannon
Ham Radio W7OT
1996 u295 (SOLD)
2007 Kia Spectra Ex 5spd (kiki)
Now in Apt

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Reply #16
Use the awning hook to pull down the locks at each end. 

Pull down the pull tab in the middle (just like the small awnings).

If someone has added the small circular locks, open them.  Your coach did not have these.

If the pull tab is not visible, use a person at each end of the awning to unroll it enough to expose the pull tab.  It IS long enough if the awning is properly stowed.

Won't even cost you one beer.
I know where the lockers are on each side up above, but do I loosen ALL the knurled circular lockers (and remove the velcro keepere, natch) before bringing it down?
1993 U-240 "La Villa Grande"..CAT 3116 w/ Pacbrake PRXB...Allison 3060 6-speed..
Previous: 1983 Airstream 310 turbo diesel, 1979 Airstream 280 turbo diesel
                                      Build # 4297
                                      PNW natives
                      Home base:  'Cactus Hug' (Ajo, Arizona)
                        DW Judy & Chet the wonder dog
                        Full-Timers 'Sailing the asphalt sea'

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Reply #17
We carry two (2) awning pull rods in case this dumbass rolls the large patio awning, or even one of the small ones, up so the pull strap has disappeared. Makes it easier to open the awning until the pull strap appears, without having to use two ladders. Just "hook" the axle on each end & pull down.
Oh, by the way, I also altered a 1 iron. Rumour has it that even God couldn't hit a decent shot with a 1 iron. >:D  So I put it to a better use. Works great when wet outside or the hands are cold or arthritic. Nice covered grip for your hands.
Nitehawk,  Demolition Lady, & our NEW master, Zippy the speeding BB cat.
1989 Grand Villa 36' ORED
Oshkosh chassis, 8.2 DD V8
2006 Saturn Vue AWD

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Reply #18
I know where the lockers are on each side up above, but do I loosen ALL the knurled circular lockers (and remove the velcro keepere, natch) before bringing it down?

All those were added after we had it.  But, yes, loosen/open all the circular locks and remove any velcro keepers.  None were original equipment.
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
Moderator, ForeForum 2001-
Moderator Diesel RV Club 2002-
Moderator, FMCA Forum 2009-2020
Chairman FMCA Technical Advisory Committee 2011-2020

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Reply #19
All those were added after we had it.  But, yes, loosen/open all the circular locks and remove any velcro keepers.  None were original equipment.
I'm thinking it was modified so the support arms could be adjusted, not only for height, but a way to avoid 'smackin your noggin' when walking underneath.
1993 U-240 "La Villa Grande"..CAT 3116 w/ Pacbrake PRXB...Allison 3060 6-speed..
Previous: 1983 Airstream 310 turbo diesel, 1979 Airstream 280 turbo diesel
                                      Build # 4297
                                      PNW natives
                      Home base:  'Cactus Hug' (Ajo, Arizona)
                        DW Judy & Chet the wonder dog
                        Full-Timers 'Sailing the asphalt sea'

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Reply #20
I know where the lockers are on each side up above, but do I loosen ALL the knurled circular lockers (and remove the velcro keepere, natch) before bringing it down?
I have a question.  By "circular lockers" so you mean the knurled knobs that pull out the locking pins?  Or has a previous owner done something interesting?
Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maximum culpa.  I didn't read the instructions, and had extended by awning in caravan position, when it rolled itself back up there went the lanyard.
1992 Foretravel Grand Villa
U225 SBID Build No. 4134
1986 Rockwood Driftwood
1968 S.I.A.T.A. Spring
1962 Studebaker Lark
1986 Honda VF700C
1983 Honda VF750C
Charlie, the Dog was broken out of jail 24 Oct 2023
N1RPN
AA1OH (H)e who must be obeyed.

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Reply #21
I have a question.  By "circular lockers" so you mean the knurled knobs that pull out the locking pins?  Or has a previous owner done something interesting?
Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maximum culpa.  I didn't read the instructions, and had extended by awning in caravan position, when it rolled itself back up there went the lanyard.
Yes, there are circular lockers all over, AND, the lanyard getting rolled up into the awning is not much fun! Don't ask me how I know. :facepalm:
1993 U-240 "La Villa Grande"..CAT 3116 w/ Pacbrake PRXB...Allison 3060 6-speed..
Previous: 1983 Airstream 310 turbo diesel, 1979 Airstream 280 turbo diesel
                                      Build # 4297
                                      PNW natives
                      Home base:  'Cactus Hug' (Ajo, Arizona)
                        DW Judy & Chet the wonder dog
                        Full-Timers 'Sailing the asphalt sea'

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Reply #22
the lanyard getting rolled up into the awning is not much fun! Don't ask me how I know. :facepalm:

That should be a "it happened ONCE".  Lesson learned.  The tail is plenty long, but you do need to keep some tension on it as you stow it.

As with all the awnings, move the lanyard slightly to the rear as you stow, so you don't end up with a "wad" in the center of the awning and loose ends.
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
Moderator, ForeForum 2001-
Moderator Diesel RV Club 2002-
Moderator, FMCA Forum 2009-2020
Chairman FMCA Technical Advisory Committee 2011-2020

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Reply #23
Found zipdee site has many instructional videos.
Awningsbyzipdee.com
Tom Shannon
Ham Radio W7OT
1996 u295 (SOLD)
2007 Kia Spectra Ex 5spd (kiki)
Now in Apt

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Reply #24

At last I did what I should have done first, called ZipDee and the lady there knew exactly what the problem was; the Teflon tape that adheres to three sides of the slider on the end of the arm was worn out. Three days later by mail at no charge, enough tape to make repairs probably 10 times over arrived (that is real service)



They now charge .67 cents per inch for their tape plus tax and shipping....not complaining, it is the "right stuff" for the job after all....

Ralph
96 U270
Ralph
96 U270