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Fuel Cap

1997 U295 Cat 3126
Looking for new Fuel tank caps (non locking, non vented)
Did the search, couldn't find any numbers here.
Looks like Stant 10819 or 10819D

Any Help?
Thanks
Chris
Chris and Tammy White  CDA Idaho
Previous owners 1997 U295 36' 3126 Cat 300 HP Build # 4998
Former Foretravel tech & RVIA certified tech
Former owner Custom Satellite home/RV satellites 
Former owner Vans LTD  van conversions
Unemployed, panhandler, drag racer NHRA #6348

Re: Fuel Cap

Reply #1
Must be vented
"Riding and rejoicing"
Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

1095 watts solar
08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4

Re: Fuel Cap

Reply #2

Are you sure dude?
There is a vent in the tank.
Mine are not vented
Chris and Tammy White  CDA Idaho
Previous owners 1997 U295 36' 3126 Cat 300 HP Build # 4998
Former Foretravel tech & RVIA certified tech
Former owner Custom Satellite home/RV satellites 
Former owner Vans LTD  van conversions
Unemployed, panhandler, drag racer NHRA #6348

Re: Fuel Cap

Reply #3
If you fill the tank FULL by tipping the coach then drive up the grapevine in Lebec, ca full throttle hard the expansion of the hot fuel caused a solid stream of fuel out of the tank vent hose.  Second time it happened.

First time was down a dozen gallons from non tilted full.

I cracked the fuel cap on the second event after I stopped and the fuel pouring out stopped. 

Replaced both caps with vented.

Have not had another leak yet.

Full tanks and twisty roads can have a fuel smell if i am hard on the turns.

What's everyone else using?

"Riding and rejoicing"
Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

1095 watts solar
08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4

Re: Fuel Cap

Reply #4
Mine are non-vented. 

If you fill the tank FULL by tipping the coach then drive up the grapevine in Lebec, ca full throttle hard the expansion of the hot fuel caused a solid stream of fuel out of the tank vent hose.  Second time it happened.

First time was down a dozen gallons from non tilted full.

I cracked the fuel cap on the second event after I stopped and the fuel pouring out stopped. 

Replaced both caps with vented.

Have not had another leak yet.

Full tanks and twisty roads can have a fuel smell if i am hard on the turns.

What's everyone else using?


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Re: Fuel Cap

Reply #5
Mine are non vented.
Tom Lang K6PG (originally  KC6UEC)
and Diane Lang
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2016 Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit Ecodiesel
still have tow-ready 2006 Acura MDX 
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Re: Fuel Cap

Reply #6
Mine are non vented also
Richard & Betty Bark & Keiko our Golden Doodle
2003 U320T 3820 PBDS
Build # 6215
MC # 16926
2016 Chevrolet Colorado 4X4 diesel

Re: Fuel Cap

Reply #7
You guys probably drive nice.  On twisty roads in the local mountains the vented caps will smell if the tanks slosh a lot.

Totally Full tank and a long hard full revs run the expansion of the hot fuel caused an overflow twice.

If I slant the coach to absolutely fill the tank the engines mpg plus the gen run hours and with no aquahot use exactly match.

That's my way of verifying nothing has changed or is leaking or bad.

I am rentitive about the details.

Normal fill leaves maybe 5-8 gallons missing if I leveled the coach first before filling up.

Normal roads no issues.  Full power banzai run up the grapevine after filling up at Lebec and 75 degrees ambient caused the overflow.

That no one else has experienced this is actually not surprising. 

Every used diesel rv I ever have driven  was not really broken in.  Babied.

As usual my driving these shows things most never see. 

Once with one gallon down and once with a dozen down from full I pulled canon pass and grapevine at full throttle full revs and the heated fuel expanded enough with the nose up the 6% grade to overflow the tank.

Tank was hot to the touch. 

You are over a few lanes from me and in no hurry.

I enjoy driving these harder than most.  Judging by results.

I need another set of caps.  Vented and non vented. 

Level your coaches when filling then turn off the leveling for a second with the motor running at fast idle then restart the leveling panel then raise the curb side quite a bit and shut everything off.

Now fill the coach.  When the filler cuts off pull it back until it's barely in the tank and restart the filler at a lower pressure.

Sometimes several times.  Now it's really full.

 Non vented caps and a long hard 6% grade pull floored and at max revs and a m11's heat input to the returned fuel will cause an overflow.

Like I said I was always testing the limits.  Not hurt it.  Just use it.

Mountain roads around big bear area can generate fuel smells if I am enjoying the engines torque off the corners.

No one else has experienced this?  Non vented caps and conservative driving and non full tanks would probably never show anything unusual

Took original Gunk(kerosene) to rinse the under Coach front area then a pressure sprayer to wash off the fuel and smell

"Riding and rejoicing"
Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

1095 watts solar
08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4

Re: Fuel Cap

Reply #8
Like has been posted in the past if your vent tube is passing fuel the check valve that was installed OEM to prevent this has failed or been removed and needs to be replaced.

Mike
Pamela & Mike 97 U 320

"It's not what happens to you, but how you react to it that matters."

Re: Fuel Cap

Reply #9
The issue is I DO have light fuel smell in the compartments. Fuel lines are all new, no leaks. Vent hose new also.
Both caps are wet around the cap O ring even to the outside, which tells me they are leaking some. At least fumes.
There is no fuel down the side of the tanks, so they are not leaking bad. I don't tilt my coach when filling.
There is no fuel on top of the tank at fittings. I can see clearly on top of the tank.The smell is more pronounced in the tank area, but carries to the back compartments. I had the tank out when I did the fuel lines for inspection.
Would still like to confirm cap # before I order them.
Thanks
Chris
Chris and Tammy White  CDA Idaho
Previous owners 1997 U295 36' 3126 Cat 300 HP Build # 4998
Former Foretravel tech & RVIA certified tech
Former owner Custom Satellite home/RV satellites 
Former owner Vans LTD  van conversions
Unemployed, panhandler, drag racer NHRA #6348

Re: Fuel Cap

Reply #10
Chris,  are you near a parts store that they can match it up?  We're in NH right now and only a few feet from a NAPA store.  If you want I can take one of mine there and have them match it.

Non-vented here also.

Re: Fuel Cap

Reply #11
Would still like to confirm cap # before I order them.
You could try calling the FOT parts desk and see what fuel cap they sell...should be able to give you a part number.
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Re: Fuel Cap

Reply #12
Our U300 has a non-vented cap. Gives a big poof when removing while fueling on the road.

Pierce
Pierce and Gaylie Stewart
'93 U300/36 WTBI
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Re: Fuel Cap

Reply #13
Our U300 has a non-vented cap. Gives a big poof when removing while fueling on the road.

Pierce

Thanks Pierce, was going to mention that. No pressure when removing cap, which tells me the vent is working, or they are leaking any pressure.
Chris and Tammy White  CDA Idaho
Previous owners 1997 U295 36' 3126 Cat 300 HP Build # 4998
Former Foretravel tech & RVIA certified tech
Former owner Custom Satellite home/RV satellites 
Former owner Vans LTD  van conversions
Unemployed, panhandler, drag racer NHRA #6348

Re: Fuel Cap

Reply #14
You could try calling the FOT parts desk and see what fuel cap they sell...should be able to give you a part number.

I was going to do that, but wanted to order them today. Every time I call there, it takes them 3 days to return my call.
Chris
Chris and Tammy White  CDA Idaho
Previous owners 1997 U295 36' 3126 Cat 300 HP Build # 4998
Former Foretravel tech & RVIA certified tech
Former owner Custom Satellite home/RV satellites 
Former owner Vans LTD  van conversions
Unemployed, panhandler, drag racer NHRA #6348

Re: Fuel Cap

Reply #15
Chris,  are you near a parts store that they can match it up?  We're in NH right now and only a few feet from a NAPA store.  If you want I can take one of mine there and have them match it.

Non-vented here also.

Thanks, no worries, I can do that later today.Thanks for the offer.
Found them for $10.00 delivered. pretty sure this is them:

Fuel Tank Cap-Diesel Only Pre-Release Fuel Cap Stant 10819D | eBay

Fuel Tank Cap-Pre-Release Fuel Cap Stant 10819 | eBay


Chris and Tammy White  CDA Idaho
Previous owners 1997 U295 36' 3126 Cat 300 HP Build # 4998
Former Foretravel tech & RVIA certified tech
Former owner Custom Satellite home/RV satellites 
Former owner Vans LTD  van conversions
Unemployed, panhandler, drag racer NHRA #6348

Re: Fuel Cap

Reply #16
You guys probably drive nice.  On twisty roads in the local mountains the vented caps will smell if the tanks slosh a lot.

Totally Full tank and a long hard full revs run the expansion of the hot fuel caused an overflow twice.

If I slant the coach to absolutely fill the tank the engines mpg plus the gen run hours and with no aquahot use exactly match.

That's my way of verifying nothing has changed or is leaking or bad.

I am rentitive about the details.

Normal fill leaves maybe 5-8 gallons missing if I leveled the coach first before filling up.

Normal roads no issues.  Full power banzai run up the grapevine after filling up at Lebec and 75 degrees ambient caused the overflow.

That no one else has experienced this is actually not surprising. 

Every used diesel rv I ever have driven  was not really broken in.  Babied.

As usual my driving these shows things most never see. 

Once with one gallon down and once with a dozen down from full I pulled canon pass and grapevine at full throttle full revs and the heated fuel expanded enough with the nose up the 6% grade to overflow the tank.

Tank was hot to the touch. 

You are over a few lanes from me and in no hurry.

I enjoy driving these harder than most.  Judging by results.

I need another set of caps.  Vented and non vented. 

Level your coaches when filling then turn off the leveling for a second with the motor running at fast idle then restart the leveling panel then raise the curb side quite a bit and shut everything off.

Now fill the coach.  When the filler cuts off pull it back until it's barely in the tank and restart the filler at a lower pressure.

Sometimes several times.  Now it's really full.

 Non vented caps and a long hard 6% grade pull floored and at max revs and a m11's heat input to the returned fuel will cause an overflow.

Like I said I was always testing the limits.  Not hurt it.  Just use it.

Mountain roads around big bear area can generate fuel smells if I am enjoying the engines torque off the corners.

No one else has experienced this?  Non vented caps and conservative driving and non full tanks would probably never show anything unusual

Took original Gunk(kerosene) to rinse the under Coach front area then a pressure sprayer to wash off the fuel and smell

LOL Bob
Diesel fuel is cheap in the NW. $2.69-$3.00 a gal. Don't need to cram that much in. Besides, I am ready for a break at about a 100 gallons.
Less to burn up when the coach catches on fire, easier to put out for the firemen!
It's a Cat industrial engine. Not a Pro Stock Engine. I beat all my hot rods, baby my MoHo.
Not in that much hurry like you Californians.... :D
Oregon rest stop in picture. Worth driving down just to camp there.
Firebird Raceway Street Outlaws No Prep filming this weekend.
Chris
Chris and Tammy White  CDA Idaho
Previous owners 1997 U295 36' 3126 Cat 300 HP Build # 4998
Former Foretravel tech & RVIA certified tech
Former owner Custom Satellite home/RV satellites 
Former owner Vans LTD  van conversions
Unemployed, panhandler, drag racer NHRA #6348


Re: Fuel Cap

Reply #18
I have same keyed locking gas caps on my coach. 

M11 cools its head and the ecu if memory serves me by returning hot fuel to the tank.

Good info on the valve.  May buy an alternate keyed set of non vented  caps for twisty drives with less than a full tank.

It's not the hurry just longer boring distances out west.

If I was into it I could get 10mpg or more poking along in the trucker lanes.

Most rv's cannot be driven hard.  Too much body roll.  Not enough brakes. 

Not a U320.  Lower center of gravity.  Lots of brakes.

So no one tips the coach to fill?  I used to raise OREDS front tires off the ground to get the last 15 gallons into the tank.

Only an issue on Cajon pass and grapevine and a full power run up the hills as far as overflows and a full tank. 

The VMPS is accurate enough at the mpg and fuel consumed that you can see the gen fuel used at the posted gph of .44

Subtracting the engine and gen the gallons used is the aquahot.

If everything does not add up  I have something wrong.  Just being observant.  Which is how I caught the fan controller being stuck on high speed if the motor is warmed up.

"Riding and rejoicing"
Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

1095 watts solar
08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4

Re: Fuel Cap

Reply #19
Bob, if the caps are vented, why wouldn't they leak the same as the center vent?
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Re: Fuel Cap

Reply #20
BTW....Driving relaxed with no toad, full of water and fuel..11-12 MPG all day long on VMS.
No Tail wind either direction, have checked this over and over on all kinds of flat places. 1780-1820 RPM's sweet spot, 62-64 MPH.
I love it there, but plenty of loud pedal to pass slower things, or climb a hill.
No one tossing beer cans out the window at us either!
Chris
Chris and Tammy White  CDA Idaho
Previous owners 1997 U295 36' 3126 Cat 300 HP Build # 4998
Former Foretravel tech & RVIA certified tech
Former owner Custom Satellite home/RV satellites 
Former owner Vans LTD  van conversions
Unemployed, panhandler, drag racer NHRA #6348

Re: Fuel Cap

Reply #21
Share the cap number when you get it please Chris.

Rodger that!
Chris and Tammy White  CDA Idaho
Previous owners 1997 U295 36' 3126 Cat 300 HP Build # 4998
Former Foretravel tech & RVIA certified tech
Former owner Custom Satellite home/RV satellites 
Former owner Vans LTD  van conversions
Unemployed, panhandler, drag racer NHRA #6348

Re: Fuel Cap

Reply #22
  They seem to have a flex seal inside.  Closes under liquid?  Vapors can vent?
"Riding and rejoicing"
Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

1095 watts solar
08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4

Re: Fuel Cap

Reply #23
UPDATE FOR THE RECORD:

Stant # 10819

They are NON vented like my old ones

Took them 8 days to ship, got them in 2 days after that.

Fuel Tank Cap-Pre-Release Fuel Cap Stant 10819 | eBay

I will follow up later to see if it helped with compartment minor diesel smell.

Chris
Chris and Tammy White  CDA Idaho
Previous owners 1997 U295 36' 3126 Cat 300 HP Build # 4998
Former Foretravel tech & RVIA certified tech
Former owner Custom Satellite home/RV satellites 
Former owner Vans LTD  van conversions
Unemployed, panhandler, drag racer NHRA #6348

Re: Fuel Cap

Reply #24
Pre release is the one I used.  I did get two keyed alike as there is more than $500 worth of fuel in the tank and in extreme conditions I would hate to find someone had siphoned my tank
"Riding and rejoicing"
Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

1095 watts solar
08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4