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Ride quality

The quality of the ride in our 2005 U320 seems to have steadily gotten worse in the last year.  At first I attributed it to the worsening roads, but now I am on I10 around Van Horn and the road appears smooth but not the ride. Small vibrations are constant and any large dips or bumps will make the bus move up and down about 3 cycles.  I am also experiencing one or more rattles in the front suspension.  While not loud, the rattle is noticeable.  We currently have 85,000 miles on our coach with about 45,000 on Koni FSD shocks. To me it seems a little early to need to replace shocks and I would think the torque tube bushings should last longer than 85,000 miles. Any suggestions?
Steve DeLange
2005 U320T 40'
Pearland, Texas

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Reply #1
Sounds like it may be your shocks. Have you taken a look at them? Check the shock bushings, check for leaks, shock mounts. If your a DIYer, pull the bottom loose and see how effective they are and if both are the same. Three cycles reminds me of "50's Detroit iron where the shocks were gone in 20K. Normally, Koni or Bilstein shocks last a long time, perhaps several hundred thousand miles.

Pierce
Pierce and Gaylie Stewart
'93 U300/36 WTBI
Detroit 6V-92TA Jake
1140 watts on the roof
SBFD (ret)

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Reply #2
Which way you headed? I'm in Deming, NM.
1994 U280, Build 4490
Deming, NM.

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Reply #3
The more I read online, it's not that uncommon for Koni's to fail that early.  Looks like I get to replace them when we get back to Houston.
Steve DeLange
2005 U320T 40'
Pearland, Texas

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Reply #4
I replaced my Konis at about 80k miles
2025 Wanderbox Outpost 32 on F600 Expedition Motorhome
2015 Born Free Royal Splendor on Ford 550 nonslide version  for sale
Former Coaches  covering. 360,000 miles
1999 34 U270
2000 36 U320
2001 42' double slide U320
2018 Jeep Rubicon

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Reply #5
Would think that as many of us that have the Konis this would have come up before,is your air pressure good?The bushings would
cause more of a wander.Try doing what Pierce said with one shock and see how it feels.
96 U270 BUILD 4810
85 380SL
Drummonds TN.

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Reply #6
The first thing I would do is make sure the bolts/nuts that hold the shocks top/bottom are tight, and I mean real tight ................ like impact wrench tight.

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Reply #7
If the shock bushings are shot, that could be the reason for the noise also. A friend just had to replace the rubbers in his Toyota 4x4 as they were making noise. Shocks were good, just the rubber bushings. 110,000 on our U300, 240,000 on our RAV4 and 440,000 on MBZ 300SD, 190,000 on ML320 on still excellent OEM shocks on all of them. Gas filled shocks may seep a little but be OK. Pull the bottom to the side and test them. A sure way to tell if one or both have gone south.

Pierce
Pierce and Gaylie Stewart
'93 U300/36 WTBI
Detroit 6V-92TA Jake
1140 watts on the roof
SBFD (ret)

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Reply #8
What Travelin' Man said.
Went through that too. I replaced the bolts to be safe.
I used a breaker bar to tighten them.
Chris
Chris and Tammy White  CDA Idaho
Previous owners 1997 U295 36' 3126 Cat 300 HP Build # 4998
Former Foretravel tech & RVIA certified tech
Former owner Custom Satellite home/RV satellites 
Former owner Vans LTD  van conversions
Unemployed, panhandler, drag racer NHRA #6348

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Reply #9
If memory serves me the Koni FSD shocks, if registered with them, had a guarantee

From KONI NA site

FSD
Excellent ride quality on all road surfaces
Improved control
Reduced road noise
Gold metallic finish shocks
Less expensive than electronic systems
Limited Lifetime Warranty
"Riding and rejoicing"
Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

1095 watts solar
08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4

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Reply #10
Been observing this liquid filled toy sitting on dash. It vibrates at about 10hz.  If I calculate correctly that is about what the tires rotate. Obviously I could have lost a wheel weight, but it's not that out of balance, just a constant vibration.
Steve DeLange
2005 U320T 40'
Pearland, Texas

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Reply #11
Have the beads put in or the centremic devices.
96 U270 BUILD 4810
85 380SL
Drummonds TN.

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Reply #12
Centrimatics was my choice
"Riding and rejoicing"
Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

1095 watts solar
08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4

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Reply #13
After a couple of hours watching the toy shake, I notice the vibration has a harmonic of about 30 seconds.  Calculating the tire diameter and speed, it appears one tire is 0.067" smaller in diameter.  The vibration is not that large, it's just consistent. Apparently the shocks aren't dampening out the 10hz vibration of the tires. I am scheduled to have the engine serviced Tuesday and they are going to check the shocks.  After that I am having the tires removed and checked just to see how far off they are.  Looking at adding Centramatics, but I want to see how far off the tires are (too curious).
Steve DeLange
2005 U320T 40'
Pearland, Texas

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Reply #14
Centramatics made a huge difference in a smooth ride. My coach is smoother than my 2 Buicks now, before, not so much.

Larry
Larry Warren
1996  U320 36' SBID "Lola" sold 2020
Build #4970
Motorcade #18318