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Re: Another PV Install at AM Solar

Reply #50
Oscar, I guess all electrical loads, including aqua-hot element will be able to run on inverter?

Yes, that is the plan.  We will test it out while we are at AM Solar.  But I may not run the aquahot of my electric for the diesel would be more efficient.  I usually leave the aquahot off until we are ready to take showers at the end of the day and that is when we run the dishwasher too.  When it gets colder we may have to leave it on during the night for heat.  We, however, like it cool to sleep so I would probably just get up a little early and turn it on to warm up the coach in the morning.  We should not have to worry about freezing temperatures so having it off during the night should not be a problem.
Oscar & Janet Valent
2023 Coach House 261XLQD
Former 2004 U320 3820 PBBS
Former 2007 Newell Coach #815
2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit

Re: Another PV Install at AM Solar

Reply #51
Are you using the transfer switches in the Quattro to switch between gen and shore power, or retain the Foretravel ATS?
Jim C.
coachfree, previous 1997, 1999, 2000, and 2003 Foretravels.

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Reply #52
Are you using the transfer switches in the Quattro to switch between gen and shore power, or retain the Foretravel ATS?

I do not know the answer to this question.  I will ask on Monday.
Oscar & Janet Valent
2023 Coach House 261XLQD
Former 2004 U320 3820 PBBS
Former 2007 Newell Coach #815
2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit

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Reply #53
Couple of thoughts: 1. If that is the park that Don and Tish are in then I'll assume we can expect a solar upgrade from them, too. Also, 2. It's always interesting to find out what a project costs and noodle around to see if it fits in one's budget. Some things you guys do I would never consider. Nothing wrong with doing them but when we had the coach we had a lifestyle that didn't require that much electricity. I'm glad this stuff gets posted and am fascinated with the ingenuity on each project. Keep up the good work. Almost as much lurking on this site as it was owning a Foretravel, almost.
Larry
1996 U295 36'
Build # 4805
Actually we sold it but just like to lurk

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Reply #54
Don and Tys do live in the same Escapees park called Jajoba Hills. We have been a few times to visit and it is a lovely park. I would like to buy into it too but there may be one downside. Living that close to Don may see me following him with projects on our coach and never be able to get out due to coach being all in pieces.
Seriously,  we enjoy seeing them and have become good friends.
Trouble is we now have 3 pieces of property here  (just closing on another) so we are busy with things here.
JohnH
Coachless, now use aircraft. 2003 Ford Travelair TC280 class C. Super shape. Just for 1 yr .
1994 Ford E350 ClassC,total renovation inside and out. Now sold.
2000 U295  36' Cummins 350 c/w Banks Stinger, Resonator upgrade,Solar, LED lites.Residential fridge with slide out pantry. Build 5674. Sold
ex 92 GV 022C ored Cummins. Sold
ex 95 GV240 cat 3116. Sold
2017 Mini cooper s & 2016 land Rover LR2 HSE  LUX.
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Re: Another PV Install at AM Solar

Reply #55
Are you using the transfer switches in the Quattro to switch between gen and shore power, or retain the Foretravel ATS?

Jim - Rather than making a mistake trying to explain what I was told this morning I am going to wait and post the schematic of what they are doing.  I will get that later this week.  They are having to do lot of rewiring for the original factory wiring with the smaller inverter would not be able to take the loads the new Victron will require.

Larry - Yes, I am lucky that Don and Tys are at Jojoba Hills RV Resort too.  They are great people and having a Foretravel guru like Don available to answer questions that I may have will be wonderful.
Oscar & Janet Valent
2023 Coach House 261XLQD
Former 2004 U320 3820 PBBS
Former 2007 Newell Coach #815
2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit

Re: Another PV Install at AM Solar

Reply #56
Are you using the transfer switches in the Quattro to switch between gen and shore power, or retain the Foretravel ATS?

Jim - Here is a generic schematic of how they are hooking up my Quattro with their Smart Phase Selector (SPS).  Hope this answers you question.  If you go to their website it explains how their SPS works: Smart Phase Selector (Patent Pending)

Oscar & Janet Valent
2023 Coach House 261XLQD
Former 2004 U320 3820 PBBS
Former 2007 Newell Coach #815
2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit

Re: Another PV Install at AM Solar

Reply #57
Jim - Here is a generic schematic of how they are hooking up my Quattro with their Smart Phase Selector (SPS).  Hope this answers you question.  If you go to their website it explains how their SPS works: Smart Phase Selector (Patent Pending)

Wow! That is a sophisticated system. Those guys know what they are doing. Think you will be very happy with it.

Jim C.
coachfree, previous 1997, 1999, 2000, and 2003 Foretravels.

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Reply #58
End of week number 2.  They plan to finish by the end of next week.  Solar panels about 3/5 done and they are still working away with wiring everything up.  Notice that the technician on the roof has the solar panels covered in cardboard that he is wiring into the J Box.  The RV in the bay beside me finished up today so I could finally get a shot of the interior of the battery bay area behind my joey.

Oscar & Janet Valent
2023 Coach House 261XLQD
Former 2004 U320 3820 PBBS
Former 2007 Newell Coach #815
2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit

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Reply #59
Solar panels are all on - 3320 watts.  LifeBlue batteries all installed - 31,200Wh.  Now they are finishing up all the rest of the wiring.  Installing the Auto Gen Start is the last hurdle and they think they have a solution for that.  Tentative finish date is this Thursday.

Oscar & Janet Valent
2023 Coach House 261XLQD
Former 2004 U320 3820 PBBS
Former 2007 Newell Coach #815
2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit

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Reply #60
WOW!! Looks like a fantastic job!
Richard & Betty Bark & Keiko our Golden Doodle
2003 U320T 3820 PBDS
Build # 6215
MC # 16926
2016 Chevrolet Colorado 4X4 diesel

Re: Another PV Install at AM Solar

Reply #61
Solar panels are all on - 3320 watts.  LifeBlue batteries all installed - 31,200Wh.  Now they are finishing up all the rest of the wiring.  Installing the Auto Gen Start is the last hurdle and they think they have a solution for that.  Tentative finish date is this Thursday.


Are you willing to share the CB layout for the entire system?
Thanks
Chris
1999 U 320 DGFE
Build Number 5523
Chris & Elka Lang
In the field, Lonoke AR

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Reply #62
Wow for sure!!!

I suspect the most expensive system they ever installed.......  I know how much mine cost without a new inverter and just 1200W and lifeline batteries.........YIKES!!!!!
Tim Fiedler    2025 LTV Unity MBL on Order
2000 Chevy Tracker 2 Door Convertible 4WD Now lifted 4.5"
1985 Citroen 2CV6 Charleston
Murphy Rebel on wheels with 175HP Titan
Cessna P337
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Reply #63
Are you willing to share the CB layout for the entire system?
Thanks
Chris

Chris - I will not be able to do that for a lot of what they did to my coach was a first for them.  All I can say was it took a LOT of CBs and if not for the 30% tax credit I probably would not have installed the system I am getting.  You will be able to get a rough estimate by just going to the AM Solar website and looking up the hardware I am having installed.  Their labor rate is $130/hr.  I will have been here for about 3 weeks with multiple people working on my coach.

While I have been here I have seen many installations and also people coming back to add on to what AM Solar had already previously installed and they praise the work AM Solar had done for them.  If you have the skills, tools, and cover to do this kind of work you will save lots of CBs.  AM Solar will put together a kit to fit the needs you require and send it to you with wiring diagrams and all the parts you will need.
Oscar & Janet Valent
2023 Coach House 261XLQD
Former 2004 U320 3820 PBBS
Former 2007 Newell Coach #815
2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit

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Reply #64

So far I am very satisfied with their work.  I was really happy when they were able to put four of the eight LifeBlue batteries back into the battery compartment where my three GEL batteries were.  That left me more storage in my Joey area than I was expecting.  The solar on top is spaced far enough apart in the center to walk to the rear A/C unit from the rear ladder without having to tilt them up out of the way.
Oscar & Janet Valent
2023 Coach House 261XLQD
Former 2004 U320 3820 PBBS
Former 2007 Newell Coach #815
2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit

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Reply #65
MORE PHOTOS!  (when you have a chance to take them without getting in the way)
1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
"Nature abhors a vacuum"

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Reply #66
MORE PHOTOS!  (when you have a chance to take them without getting in the way)

Almost finished!  Two batteries during testing proved to be out of spec so AM Solar ordered replacements that are to arrive on Monday and be installed on Tuesday.  Here are some pictures of the install.  Where you see the foam blocks is where my two batteries will be going.
Oscar & Janet Valent
2023 Coach House 261XLQD
Former 2004 U320 3820 PBBS
Former 2007 Newell Coach #815
2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit

Re: Another PV Install at AM Solar

Reply #67
Oscar, what are the different wattages of panels that were used, it looks like they used 2 different size panels.
Chris
1999 U 320 DGFE
Build Number 5523
Chris & Elka Lang
In the field, Lonoke AR

Re: Another PV Install at AM Solar

Reply #68
Oscar and Janet, Nice meeting you last week at AM Solar.  Congratulations on your system.  Now comes the best part, getting to travel with it and being self contained.

How do like the bluetooth? I have only the Victron battery moniter 712 and a Victron solar controller 150/85 TR, and find this so easy to monitor. (and so I've not so many sytems to moniter, do you primarily use the color monitor or the bluetooth?
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Reply #69
Oscar, what are the different wattages of panels that were used, it looks like they used 2 different size panels.
Chris

Chris,

26 each 100w
8 each 90w

Oscar
Oscar & Janet Valent
2023 Coach House 261XLQD
Former 2004 U320 3820 PBBS
Former 2007 Newell Coach #815
2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit

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Reply #70
Congrats Oscar! That install looks awesome. You'll need to post pics with the panels tilted showing your access. Thanks for blazing this path. Keep us updated on how they perform. A lot of us will probably follow in your footsteps. (more or less!) :)

see ya
ken
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✨6V-92TA DDEC Parlor Coach 350HP Series 92
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Reply #71
Bring it to California!!! 900,000 households with no power right now. We have been on the U300's generator for days. You could power a neighborhood or even a small town.

Bet your coach is cooler in summer with the panels keeping the sun off the roof.

Pierce
Pierce and Gaylie Stewart
'93 U300/36 WTBI
Detroit 6V-92TA Jake
1140 watts on the roof
SBFD (ret)

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Reply #72
Well done guys and yes from me on AM SOLARS workmanship and quality.
Might be worth considering doing this on ours but will wait a bit to see how yours performs.
JohnH
Coachless, now use aircraft. 2003 Ford Travelair TC280 class C. Super shape. Just for 1 yr .
1994 Ford E350 ClassC,total renovation inside and out. Now sold.
2000 U295  36' Cummins 350 c/w Banks Stinger, Resonator upgrade,Solar, LED lites.Residential fridge with slide out pantry. Build 5674. Sold
ex 92 GV 022C ored Cummins. Sold
ex 95 GV240 cat 3116. Sold
2017 Mini cooper s & 2016 land Rover LR2 HSE  LUX.
jhaygarth@aol.com    SKP #130098
treat everyone as you would like to be.

Re: Another PV Install at AM Solar

Reply #73
Guys/Gals,

This thread has taken a turn from the original topic.

PLEASE, back to the original topic, without political/social overtones.

Thanks.

Brett/moderator
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
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Reply #74
Oscar, what is the benefit of using 90 and 100 watt panels over say 325 watt panels?  I'm not a solar guru so just wandering what the difference is?
Send me a PM if you don't want to get into details on forum
Chris
1999 U 320 DGFE
Build Number 5523
Chris & Elka Lang
In the field, Lonoke AR