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Safe-T-Plus

Just left Safe-T-Plus.  Install went very well.  Carmen is very happy with the way the coach tracks on the road.  Everyone at Safe-T-Plus was very nice and helpful.  Our technician Barry was the best.  I'm glad I had them install it instead of doing it on my self.
Happy customers,
Carmen and John
John & Carm Morales

"We travel not to go anywhere, but to just go.  We travel for travel's sake.  Our great desire is to move."

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Reply #1
John. What does the safety plus system do for the coach. I'm guessing it's a steering thing and where did you get it done at ?
Robert and Susan
 1995 36' 280 WTBI 8.3 3060r
 1200 watts on the roof, 720 Ah of lithium's
 Build # 4637. Motorcade # 17599
        FMCA  # 451505
        18  Wrangler JLUR

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Reply #2
Safety Plus helps you with keeping the coach tracking in a straight line.  Reduces driving fatigue.  Also, in the event of a blowout it helps keep the coach in a straight line. If you go to the fatory, installation is free and worth it.
John M.

Safe T Plus Steering Control / RV & Truck Steering Stabilizer
John & Carm Morales

"We travel not to go anywhere, but to just go.  We travel for travel's sake.  Our great desire is to move."

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Reply #3
John,
Do you mind share a ballpark cost?
40ft 1997 U320

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Reply #4
John If I may ask what tires and pressure are you running?
"Riding and rejoicing"
Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

1095 watts solar
08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4

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Reply #5
Love ours. It made a noticeable difference.
1993 U300 40ft GV SE
Build # 4344

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Reply #6
John,
Do you mind share a ballpark cost?
It was $702 and some change out the door.  If you buy it from a separate dealer you have to pay installation.
John M.
John & Carm Morales

"We travel not to go anywhere, but to just go.  We travel for travel's sake.  Our great desire is to move."

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Reply #7
John If I may ask what tires and pressure are you running?
Bob,
We have the Michelin XZA3+ and run 110 psi in the front and 100 in the rears.  I've been wanting to get the coach weighed so I can have a better idea of the weight distribution at every corner.
John M.
John & Carm Morales

"We travel not to go anywhere, but to just go.  We travel for travel's sake.  Our great desire is to move."

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Reply #8
Bob,
We have the Michelin XZA3+ and run 110 psi in the front and 100 in the rears.  I've been wanting to get the coach weighed so I can have a better idea of the weight distribution at every corner.
John M.

John, when you hit a major bump in the road, do you feel like the coach has bottomed out?  At least hit very hard?  We had that issue and spoke to Derick at MOT and they recommend 95 in the fronts and 90 across the duals.  Coach rode so much better on dips and bumps after that.  We still need to get the coach weighed, since we are full time and have it loaded with stuff!  lol
Joe & Dottie Allen
Sold!  December 2023.      2000 U320; build # 5645
Our coach " Maxine"
Motorcade #  15922;  Escapee 150950; FMCA F330833; Boondockers Welcome;  Harvest Hosts;  Thousand Trails
'98 U320 from 2000-'06
USAF '62-'66

"Do not spoil what you have by desiring what you have not; remember that what you now have was once among the things you only hoped for." ―Epicurus

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Reply #9
John are your tires "g" load rated or "h"?
"Riding and rejoicing"
Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

1095 watts solar
08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4

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Reply #10
Joe,
We did have those pressures and it did feel better driving.  Before taking off to Florida I changed the pressures using the Michelin charts and the ride feels very stiff and hard. The only difference from yours was that I had 90 in the front and 85 on the duals.  Will try your pressures and see how it rides.  We don't full time so we don't have it overloaded. 
Thanks for the info,
John M.
John & Carm Morales

"We travel not to go anywhere, but to just go.  We travel for travel's sake.  Our great desire is to move."

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John- In my opinion, good investment.
We had the Safe-T-Plus installed on our Foretravel at the FMCA rally in Minot several months ago. Install went well, the guys came up from Atlanta. Said, anytime we were passing through, stop by - they will check the unit and calibrate if needed. Free camping too.

I like the change in how the coach tracks, took about a 100 miles for muscle memory to reset, feels very stable now. I run about the same tire pressures, we have a hard ride over bumps. I need to get the coach weighed, so I can more correctly dial back tire air pressure.

I do have some issues with the Shepard Steering box as I always had to over correct, back and forth... Currently we are  in Houston getting the Sheppard Steering box rebuilt by Chalk Truck Parts here. Rudy Legget set me up with a great shop, (thank you Rudy!). This should fix my underlaying steering issues.

We pick the coach up tomorrow, and expecting a much more steady tracking U320...

Jeff



Jeff & Kristen
2002 U320 build #6039
Living the Dream!

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Reply #12
Bob,
We are currently on the road.  Will check when we stop.  Don't know where to look on the tire.
John M.
John & Carm Morales

"We travel not to go anywhere, but to just go.  We travel for travel's sake.  Our great desire is to move."

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Reply #13
It's on the side of the tire.
"Riding and rejoicing"
Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

1095 watts solar
08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4

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Reply #14
Jeff, you may have some play in the universal joints in the steering column linkage.  Another place to check.  Chalk did a fine job on our steering box two plus years ago.  Still clean and dry.
Roger Engdahl and Susan Green
2001 U320 3610 #5879 (Home2) - 2014 Jeep Cherokee or 2018 F150
Hastings, MN

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We are very pleased with our Safe-T-Plus too, but hope to never reap the full benefit of it in a front end blow out. Our coach has always tracked well, but  the safety plus has reduced the continual minor adjustments required while piloting, subsequently reducing driver fatigue. I don't regret the investment at all! Hope you enjoys yours too!
1996 36' U295 Build #4879 Motorcade #18088
2007 Jeep Liberty 4x4 FMCA #F474816
Foretravel Mid-South
There's no happy like Foretravel happy!

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Jeff, you may have some play in the universal joints in the steering column linkage.  Another place to check.  Chalk did a fine job on our steering box two plus years ago.  Still clean and dry.

Hi Roger,  The  u-joint I was aware of. The best I could tell it seemed solid, no play. No leaks on the box,  just a lot of play in the steering wheel.  While I was at the Minot  ND event, we were fortunate to meet Richard Henderson from Henderson Lineup. He and his team crawled around under the coach and his conclusion was my symptoms were likely a tired M100 steering box.

So, picked up the coach late this afternoon. We made it almost to the Louisiana border on I-10, Foretravel steers like new now! I really like the improvement, I can look at some scenery now as I'm driving... Safe-T-Plus keeps the tension on, plus the added safety benefit for a blowout, which I hope I NEVER experience!

Jeff
Jeff & Kristen
2002 U320 build #6039
Living the Dream!


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Reply #18
John that's good for being able to reduce your tire pressures for a better ride.

We are at 97 front 87 rear.  You weigh less.  I would reduce yours to the 97/87 we run.

You might be able to run a bit less per Michelin's chart depending on a weighing
"Riding and rejoicing"
Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

1095 watts solar
08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4

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Reply #19
I might need to get one.

My coach started pulling to the right while in Alaska. I drove home and my mechanic says everything looks good.

I know the tire pressures are good. I had the alignment done at FOT. The tires look good.

Next week my mechanic is going to change the rear brake pads, like he did the fronts a month ago. I'll have him check for dragging brakes (I can hear one occasionally dragging now), and I'll have him check for binding wheel bearings (Bubba at FOT did add oil to the front left).

If nothing can be found, I guess I'll add a band aid.
Tom Lang K6PG (originally  KC6UEC)
and Diane Lang
2003 38 U295 build 6209
2016 Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit Ecodiesel
still have tow-ready 2006 Acura MDX 
Temple City, California
Motorcade 16681 California Chapter President
SKP 16663 member of SKP Park of the Sierra, Coarsegold California
FMCA F071251
Retired electrical and electronic engineer

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Reply #20
Tom,

If everything checks out mechanically, next (inexpensive) step is to rotate front tires (right to left/left to right.  This often cures a pulling.

If doing a front end alignment, verify that caster on right side is around .75 more than left.
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
Moderator, ForeForum 2001-
Moderator Diesel RV Club 2002-
Moderator, FMCA Forum 2009-2020
Chairman FMCA Technical Advisory Committee 2011-2020

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Reply #21
Tom. Is your bus the IFS version or straight axle with king pins ?

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Reply #22

If nothing can be found, I guess I'll add a band aid.

Don't think it will correct your problem.  Is your coach straight front axle or IFS?


"Not so  long ago we were a nation of risk takers, riding five million pounds of  thrust straight into space."  Joe Gresh
Chuck Pearson
1996 U295
2018 Can Am X3 TurboRS

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Reply #23
Straight axle.
Tom Lang K6PG (originally  KC6UEC)
and Diane Lang
2003 38 U295 build 6209
2016 Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit Ecodiesel
still have tow-ready 2006 Acura MDX 
Temple City, California
Motorcade 16681 California Chapter President
SKP 16663 member of SKP Park of the Sierra, Coarsegold California
FMCA F071251
Retired electrical and electronic engineer

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Reply #24
1.My coach started pulling to the right while in Alaska.
2. I had the alignment done at FOT. The tires look good.

Tom,
1. Did this happen all at once or over a period of time?
2. Was this done after you returned from Alaska?

Mike
Pamela & Mike 97 U 320

"It's not what happens to you, but how you react to it that matters."