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Transmission wiring question

I have a Allison 4000 transmission that is not sending some info to my VMSpc. Talked with Roger and he did some troubleshooting and determined no info is being sent. Can someone point me to where the brain of transmission so I can try to clean the connections as a place to start. I get the transmission temp but no retarder temp, gear indication, economy indication. Just would like everything to work if possible. Haven't had a chance to go to talk to an Allison shop yet. Hope it is something I can fix so my wallet won't suffer. My coach budget has taken a beating this year.

Thanks
Keith
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Re: Transmission wiring question

Reply #1 –
Keith,

  If you look first in the basement mounted on the wall or ceiling behind the HWH compressor. If not there then it should be behind the kick panel that runs from the steering column over to the drivers side wall.  If hid here it will be mounted on the drivers side wall framing. 

Here is a good pic. that George took as to where the ECU is if mounted in the basement and what you are looking for.
Flickering display on Allison shift pad

Here is a link to a pic if it is hid under the dash like ours is.
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Re: Transmission wiring question

Reply #2 –
Mine is in the wet bay above the water pump!
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Re: Transmission wiring question

Reply #3 –
I found it, in the bay with the 12v compressor on the wall. Now I just need some time to take it apart and clean the connections.

Thanks
Keith
The selected media item is not currently available.Keith & Jo
2003 U320T 4025 PBBS Designer series
Build 6203    Cummins 500hp
2000 U320 4010 WTFE / Build 5762 —Sold—
Motorcade #18070   
Pasadena, Texas
2015 Jeep Wrangler Sahara-Sunset Orange pearl coat
Don't argue with a fool, people watching might not be able to tell the difference.

Re: Transmission wiring question

Reply #4 –
Quote from: hdff –
Now I just need some time to take it apart and clean the connections.
I will be very surprised if you find any corrosion problem on the pins.  The connectors are VERY tightly sealed.  In the two posts linked below, you'll see photos of our Allison ECU and the wiring harness connectors, taken when I had ours out for a rebuild.  Yours should be similar.

No start, with Allison "snake eyes" (Problem Solved)

No start, with Allison "snake eyes" (Problem Solved)
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Re: Transmission wiring question

Reply #5 –
Well if those are clean, and yes they are tight, any suggestions? I guess it's not really hurting anything but I'm kinda anal and like to have things working if they should...  those 2 ?? on the VMSpc for the gear selection just stare at me going down the road.....


Keith
The selected media item is not currently available.Keith & Jo
2003 U320T 4025 PBBS Designer series
Build 6203    Cummins 500hp
2000 U320 4010 WTFE / Build 5762 —Sold—
Motorcade #18070   
Pasadena, Texas
2015 Jeep Wrangler Sahara-Sunset Orange pearl coat
Don't argue with a fool, people watching might not be able to tell the difference.

Re: Transmission wiring question

Reply #6 –
Quote from: hdff –
Well if those are clean, and yes they are tight, any suggestions? I guess it's not really hurting anything but I'm kinda anal and like to have things working if they should...  those 2 ?? on the VMSpc for the gear selection just stare at me going down the road.....


Keith
Maybe call Allison and see if there is a re-boot feature.
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Re: Transmission wiring question

Reply #7 –
Pins seem to get surface corrosion.  The instrument guy said work the plug ten times
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Re: Transmission wiring question

Reply #8 –
Quote from: Caflashbob –
Pins seem to get surface corrosion.  The instrument guy said work the plug ten times

Keep in mind coatings on pins on electronics are rated for a finite number of "wipes".  Don't practice this method as "routine maintenance" or you will wear through the plating.
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Re: Transmission wiring question

Reply #9 –
Don't know if he is familiar with this issue, but John is in Flower Mound, TX and is the guru on shift pads and Allison ECU's:

Transmission Instruments
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Re: Transmission wiring question

Reply #10 –
John is the one who recommended the multiple plug ins to me for my 97
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Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

1095 watts solar
08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4

Re: Transmission wiring question

Reply #11 –
Talked to John, he was no help for my problem


Keith
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2003 U320T 4025 PBBS Designer series
Build 6203    Cummins 500hp
2000 U320 4010 WTFE / Build 5762 —Sold—
Motorcade #18070   
Pasadena, Texas
2015 Jeep Wrangler Sahara-Sunset Orange pearl coat
Don't argue with a fool, people watching might not be able to tell the difference.

Re: Transmission wiring question

Reply #12 –
Guess Stewart and Stevenson, the Allison dealer up on I 10 just inside 610 on the east side of Houston is the next contact.
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
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