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Replacing Gaggenua cooktop with induction?

Has anyone replaced their Gaggenua cooktop with two burner induction cooktop?

In our U320, we only have the fridge and cooktop on propane. We might be changing the fridge to a compressor. That would only leave the cooktop on propane.  We seldom use it and I'd prefer to switch it to electric and remove the GIANT propane tank from the basement and add some batteries. Thoughts?
Fred H.
1996 Foretravel U320 4000 Build #4993 (Previous motorhomes 1985 Airstream 345, 1977 Argosy 20)
Sevierville, TN
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Reply #1
Tim F. has a single, Roger has a double, I am sure there are more.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

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Reply #2
One thing to keep in mind with the induction cooktops available for RVs, you will not be able to run both "burners" on high at the same time.  They are 120VAC units so both burners will share a single 15 amp circuit.  That means one on high and the other likely on the minimal setting or both at no more than mid-range temperature.  Might not be a big deal for the way you like to cook, but it could be an issue if you like to boil water to make pasta plus saute something for the sauce.

Learn every day, but especially from the experiences of others. It's cheaper!  - John C. Bogle

2000 U320 36' non-slide / WildEBeest Rescue
2003 U320

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Reply #3
We went with a single burner and love it!  You gain a lot of storage area with the propane tank removed.  I went with lithium batteries and placed them behind my joey and used the old propane area for storing my tools in plastic containers.  The propane area in my coach is open to the elements as the joey area is heated and closed from the elements which is good for lithium batteries and solar components.

When you finish your remodel please be sure to post your results!

Good luck,
Oscar
Oscar & Janet Valent
2023 Coach House 261XLQD
Former 2004 U320 3820 PBBS
Former 2007 Newell Coach #815
2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit

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Reply #4
Michelle raises an excellent point-- power supply required/recommended for the new induction cook top.

You could look into "work arounds" after studying the cooktop wiring.  It MAY be possible to wire each burner to a separate hot (pulling one extra hot wire from available breaker in breaker box).  Again, just thinking out loud.

I know when Dianne wanted a new 4 burner high output glass top stove for our house I had to pull new wires from the house breaker box.
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
Moderator, ForeForum 2001-
Moderator Diesel RV Club 2002-
Moderator, FMCA Forum 2009-2020
Chairman FMCA Technical Advisory Committee 2011-2020

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Reply #5
We replaced the cook top with a double induction but made it portable. Ours worked well for what we did and never had an issue with not enough power.  We had to source one that would run on a 15 amp outlet though.  We made it removable so we could take it outside and cook if we wanted and we had the whole top as a counter that way.
2025 Wanderbox Outpost 32 on F600 Expedition Motorhome
2015 Born Free Royal Splendor on Ford 550 nonslide version  for sale
Former Coaches  covering. 360,000 miles
1999 34 U270
2000 36 U320
2001 42' double slide U320
2018 Jeep Rubicon

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Reply #6
We have two portable induction cooktops. I ran an extension cord from the microwave outlet. That's worked for us without any issues.
Build 5477
99 3602 WTFE U270C

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Reply #7
All the circuits are 20 amps and larger in my rig with 12 gauge wire. If my fridge gives me any trouble I will put in a compressor
style fridge and put in an induction range and get rid of the propane.
Peter and Frieda Morin
1999 36ft. U320 Foretravel
Build # 5436
1998 Suzuki Sidekick Sport

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Reply #8
Two burner induction. If using both elements, power will be reduced on them to keep draw under 15 amps.
Jim C.
coachfree, previous 1997, 1999, 2000, and 2003 Foretravels.

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Reply #9
Dave K. did a wonderful install for his double.  Might try to search - probably 2/3 years ago by now. 
Scott & Carol Seibert
2001 42' double slide U320 - Sold
Previous - 2002 36' U320

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Reply #10
Dave K. did a wonderful install for his double.  Might try to search - probably 2/3 years ago by now. 
Dave K's installation and write up. A great job.
Built-in drawer for 2 burner induction cooker
Dave and Nancy Abel
'00 U320 36' WTFE  Build #5669
'10 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon
Livingston, TX  SKP's Fulltiming

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Reply #11
DW has been expressing mounting interest in converting to induction cooking.  At the recent "Gone Fishin' RV Resort" gathering Dave Cobb was luring (oops...I mean "inviting") all the ladies into his coach to show off his induction cooktop setup.  My DW is sold on the concept.

SO, can any of the early adopters provide some "current" (ha, ha) thoughts on their overall satisfaction with their unit of choice?  Would they pick the same unit again, or do they have some "Buyer's Remorse".  Reading through the buyer comments on Amazon for various induction products (Yes - I always take them with a grain of salt) I see two recurring "gripes".

First, the size (diameter) of the individual "burners".  Apparently not big enough to handle a large (12") pan with even heating?

Second - reliability.  Lots of complaints about relatively early failure and hassles with returning for replacement/refund.

I open the floor to comments.
1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
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Reply #12
We have a single burner induction cook top that we can use in the coach or outside on a picnic table (most often used place) in addition to the two burner gaggenau gas cooktop.  We like cooking with gas and since the Gag is the only gas appliance (plus the gas fire pit) we got rid of the big LP tank and in its space were able to get 4 L16 6 volt batteries (830 amp hrs of capacity) and an 11 lb LP tank with a secure mount.  They are 9" in diameter and 18" tall.  There are 5 lb tanks as well.  With some fire pit use this tank lasts us about 3 months.  We take it out and go get it filled anywhere, much easier than taking the coach to get it filled.  They are small enough that you can take a second one as well. 

The main drawback I see to an induction cooktop is that it uses AC power.  A lot from your inverter or you have to be connected to a land line or running your generator.  You need to have induction ready cookware with flat bottoms. One of our cast iron frying pans does not work well because it is not as flat as it could be.  Magma makes a nice nesting induction cookware set.

The size of the "burner" does not seem to be relevant.  It puts out power in a way that excites the materials in the pan and they get hot.  A good quality induction ready pan is important.  We use a 12" frying pan our side to do fish frequently.  Works great.  Boiling water and you don't want all the steam in the coach?  Out side works and it is fast.

They work well, take some getting used to and for us is a nice second cooking method.
Roger Engdahl and Susan Green
2001 U320 3610 #5879 (Home2) - 2014 Jeep Cherokee or 2018 F150
Hastings, MN

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Reply #13
My previous owner installed a single induction cooktop in the cutout space on the 99 320. There's not enough room to put a double unless I replace the entire countertop. I do have a separate countertop induction unit so I could potentially use both. The way induction cooktops work is that you would rarely need to use either of them on high for very long and only when boiling water or trying to get a pan up to speed and it doesn't take long. Induction cooking is tremendously better than electric resistance or gas, and I love gas. I use it at home. But with induction there's no residual heat you don't have to worry about filling an LP bottle or running out and I don't have to worry about blowing up the coach with LP fumes. It's a win-win. Yeah you do have to have induction ready cookware but for me that wasn't an issue. One day I might decide to change out my countertop and therefore put it to burner induction in, but for now one burner does pretty much everything I wanted to do, and if I really need another burner I can pull out the other countertop one. Listen to your wife you won't be sorry.
'99 U320 40 WTFE
Build #5462,
1500 Watts Solar 600 amp Victron lithium
2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland Hemi
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Retired

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Reply #14
We have a portable single induction burner. I have the stackable Magma pans and my cast iron works on our burner. I haven't used the propane cooktop since we started living in the RV almost two years ago.

Deb
2003 U320 4010 - SOLD
2014 RAM 1500 Ecodiesel

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Reply #15
Like Deb, I have a single portable induction plate and the magna Pans. I also carry my electric pressure cooker and Crisplid.  I dislike using my Kenyon  glass cooktop as it is slow to heat and long to cool off.  Between these 3 items I have no problem keeping my DH happy at meal time. Plus the MW is an extra help too.
Lynn and Linda Day and Harry the pug
RIP: Tank 01-2008 to 03-2020
2012 Nimbus 42' build 6555
ISX12-500hp
2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee
MC# 17723

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Reply #16
If you've gotten rid of your lp all together, how does your furnace work? Or is your climate warm enough where you never need it?
92 Grand Villa
Silver 6v92
 side isle.
build# 3973

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Reply #17
Previous owners had installed a dual burner electric cook top. It is a true heating element and not induction. We would have preferred it be induction but is is nice as it has a nice low profile smooth surface. 

It has its own breaker under the bed that we normally leave off unless we are planning to cook. Although the burners require 2 touches to turn on, it is easy enough that we don't want to inadvertently turn it on cleaning or putting stuff on the counter.

We also have a single burner portable induction burner that we can use inside or outside.
Bruce & Linda
2004 U295, Build # 6268, ISL400 CAPS
2016 Ford Explorer Sport or 1985 Jeep CJ7

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Reply #18
I would venture to guess those guys have Aquahot heating.  So if they've replaced the cooktop and gone with a residential fridge, there is no need for propane.  Other than a bbq or firepit.
Forest & Cindy Olivier
1987 log cabin
2011 Roadtrek C210P
no longer 1999 36' U320 build #5522
2013 Rzr 570 & 2018 Ranger XP1000
2006 Lexus GX470
2011 Tahoe LT 4x4
Previous 1998 45' 2 slide Newell, 1993 39' Newell

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Reply #19
I would venture to guess those guys have Aquahot heating.  So if they've replaced the cooktop and gone with a residential fridge, there is no need for propane.  Other than a bbq or firepit.
Haha, that explains that!
92 Grand Villa
Silver 6v92
 side isle.
build# 3973

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Reply #20
If you only boon dock you still need to have a propane stove. We have AH and residential refrigerator and only use propane for cooking. Filled it in '15 when we bought the coach and still have over a half tank. Thought of doing the same as Roger and putting a small tank in place of the big one. But without adding more batteries I will just KISS.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

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Reply #21
4 L16 6V Full River batteries, 830 amp hr capacity and an 11 lb LP tank where the big LP tank was. 
Roger Engdahl and Susan Green
2001 U320 3610 #5879 (Home2) - 2014 Jeep Cherokee or 2018 F150
Hastings, MN

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Reply #22
Craneman, I have an all electric coach. If I run out of sun, I will start the genny. If I want to grill, I will use wood in my small weber bbq.
Never was comfortable with gas in a boat or RV. But then thats just me.
'99 U320 40 WTFE
Build #5462,
1500 Watts Solar 600 amp Victron lithium
2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland Hemi
Instagram bobfnbw
Retired

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Reply #23
Craneman, I have an all electric coach. If I run out of sun, I will start the genny. If I want to grill, I will use wood in my small weber bbq.
Never was comfortable with gas in a boat or RV. But then thats just me.
My '81 is all electric with a 13.5 KW Yanmar generator. over 10,000 hrs. of use over the 18 years we used it. I bought one of the counter top induction cook tops posted on the forum and even with my solar was using in my opinion too much generator time. Took it out and have it here at home along with the nesting cookware that Roger posted about. We always dry camp and the DW isn't going to fix pork chops or cook spaghetti out on a bbq. I do grill steaks and cook trout on one but as they say dwmyh.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean