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Leaking Aquahot pumps

I have 2 Aquahot seals leaking when it is running. Would that be the seals.
Peter and Frieda Morin
1999 36ft. U320 Foretravel
Build # 5436
1998 Suzuki Sidekick Sport

Re: Leaking Aquahot pumps

Reply #1
The O rings fail, find the post on replacing all 3 at the same time.
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Reply #2
Just an O ring that should be easy and yes I would do all three. Thanks
Peter and Frieda Morin
1999 36ft. U320 Foretravel
Build # 5436
1998 Suzuki Sidekick Sport

Re: Leaking Aquahot pumps

Reply #3
You need to pinch off the engine loop along with the inlet and outlet hoses. Maybe Rudy will give more info. When I did mine I didn't pinch off hoses and had to drain the AH and the engine loop. Also a very special o ring the number is on the forum from when John did his.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
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Reply #4
Thanks I will pinch off the engine hoes and the Aquahot needs the fluid changed. 
Peter and Frieda Morin
1999 36ft. U320 Foretravel
Build # 5436
1998 Suzuki Sidekick Sport

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Reply #5
I don't know why the A-H fluid would ever need to be changed.  Just check PH annually.
Regards,
Brett

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Reply #6
Servicing Aqua Hot.  Pages 11-13 specifically cover antifreeze, not just heat transfer ability with proper ph, but also anti corrosive benefits, thus requiring occasional changing.
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Re: Leaking Aquahot pumps

Reply #7
Servicing Aqua Hot.  Pages 11-13 specifically cover antifreeze, not just heat transfer ability with proper ph, but also anti corrosive benefits, thus requiring occasional changing.
Jack that information is for the newer Aqua Hot models that use boiler fluid. It doesn't have the same corrosion resistance as EL coolant
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
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Reply #8
I'm new to Aquahots so I am learning. What antifreeze should I be using. The person I bought it from said he was going to put the
same antifreeze that was in the engine and I have lots of that.
Peter and Frieda Morin
1999 36ft. U320 Foretravel
Build # 5436
1998 Suzuki Sidekick Sport

Re: Leaking Aquahot pumps

Reply #9
It can use the coolant that the engine uses. Best if you can put the factory type ELC in the engine, Aqua Hot and generator. Then only have to carry one type of coolant on the coach. There was a lot of discussion a while back on the life of the different coolants, and a member even posted the conversation he had with the manufacturer. From what I can remember the Aqua Hot using the ELC would never need to be changed.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

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Reply #10
That's the kind of antifreeze he gave me. Changing the O rings should be easy but getting the pumps out of there looks awful.
I haven't figgered out how to drain the system without making a mess.
Peter and Frieda Morin
1999 36ft. U320 Foretravel
Build # 5436
1998 Suzuki Sidekick Sport

Re: Leaking Aquahot pumps

Reply #11
I drained the AH through the hole in the bottom of the AH bay into clean buckets and used a hand pump to put it back in. It would have been much easier if I had pinched off the lines. When you pull the pumps have rags under the whole area to avoid having coolant odor for some time to come. The service manual covers the how to part, it has be linked on the forum before. It is time consuming for sure but not rocket science.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
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Reply #12
I found the drain and the pumps are out. It smells like antifreeze. Does the boiler fluid smell like antifreeze. The O rings are flat.
Peter and Frieda Morin
1999 36ft. U320 Foretravel
Build # 5436
1998 Suzuki Sidekick Sport

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Reply #13
On your year coach it is antifreeze in the boiler. Do you have the special red o rings?
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
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2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
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Reply #14
If you Aqua Hot heater has an electronic control board with led lights, you need GRAS Boiler Antifreeze such as Camco.  If your heater has fuses and three clear relays, you can use the same engine antifreeze used in main engine and gen.

If you have a remanned heater, you need GRAS Boiler Antifreeze.
Rudy Legett
2003 U320 4010 ISM 450 hp
2001 U320 4220 ISM 450 hp
1995 U320 M11 400 hp
1990 Granvilla 300 hp 3208T
Aqua Hot Service Houston and Southeast Texas

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Reply #15
Mine has the clear relay What is a remanned heater.
Peter and Frieda Morin
1999 36ft. U320 Foretravel
Build # 5436
1998 Suzuki Sidekick Sport

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Reply #16
Remanufactured
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2003 U320T 3820 PBDS
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Reply #17
How would I know if it is manufacturer
Peter and Frieda Morin
1999 36ft. U320 Foretravel
Build # 5436
1998 Suzuki Sidekick Sport

Re: Leaking Aquahot pumps

Reply #18
It wouldn't matter, as long as you have the fuses and the clear relays, your model takes the same coolant as the engine.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

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Reply #19
If you have the March 809-BR pump you are going to need to order the red silicone rubber o'ring.  You can see them at the link below. You can also find them on eBay.  Make sure you have the Bronze pump.  That is why you have BR in the pump model number.  Also the service manual covers the procedure for shutting down the system to remove the pumps.  Attached is the service manual.
John M.
March 0809-0165-1000 Silicone O-ring

http://www.aquahot.com/files/service_manual/AHE-100-02S%20Service%20Manual%20Rev.%20B%209-27-2011.pdf
John & Carm Morales

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Reply #20
A remanufactured heater has the freshwater coil in the coolant tank.  Hence the need for GRAS boiler fluid.

A reman heater will have a model number starting with "RM".  AHE 100 will become RM 100.

Hope this helps.
Rudy Legett
2003 U320 4010 ISM 450 hp
2001 U320 4220 ISM 450 hp
1995 U320 M11 400 hp
1990 Granvilla 300 hp 3208T
Aqua Hot Service Houston and Southeast Texas

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Reply #21
My model # is 431/12. On the side is Aquahot By Vehicle Systems. I just found a tag on the over flow tank Shell ELC was serviced in
2016. What is GRAS Boiler fluid.
Peter and Frieda Morin
1999 36ft. U320 Foretravel
Build # 5436
1998 Suzuki Sidekick Sport

Re: Leaking Aquahot pumps

Reply #22
Generally regarded as safe (for human consumption)
Richard & Betty Bark & Keiko our Golden Doodle
2003 U320T 3820 PBDS
Build # 6215
MC # 16926
2016 Chevrolet Colorado 4X4 diesel

Re: Leaking Aquahot pumps

Reply #23
John that's the pump I've got. Thank's everyone for the help. As it had antifreeze in it I am going to keep using it.
Peter and Frieda Morin
1999 36ft. U320 Foretravel
Build # 5436
1998 Suzuki Sidekick Sport

Re: Leaking Aquahot pumps

Reply #24
If you Aqua Hot heater has an electronic control board with led lights, you need GRAS Boiler Antifreeze such as Camco.  If your heater has fuses and three clear relays, you can use the same engine antifreeze used in main engine and gen.

If you have a remanned heater, you need GRAS Boiler Antifreeze.
 
What has changed within the boiler to require GRAS?
Is it a Potable Water safety issue?

Thank You

Tim
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