Sanitation hose

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Sanitation hose

December 24, 2019, 10:56:19 pm

What do you use?
Don't like mine, the bayonet fittings come undone easily.
Like that Lippert 359724 Waste Master 20' Extended RV Sewer Hose Management System with its cam lock. Anyone ever use it on our coaches? Not sure if it will fit well for long term use.
They are pricey but look well made.

Be interested in what you guys and girls use to empty the tanks.
Bob

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Reply #1 – December 24, 2019, 10:59:56 pm

I ordered the wrong hose originally .. Camco orange colored one... took old fitting from the chute and used the heat gun and made it work.. now I can crunch it up real easy and stow in the original holder in the bay.. bought another one so I can get to the long runs with no issue.. almost professional now..

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Reply #2 – December 25, 2019, 12:44:25 am

Quote from: Bob and Julie – December 24, 2019, 10:56:19 pm

What do you use?
Don't like mine, the bayonet fittings come undone easily.
Like that Lippert 359724 Waste Master 20' Extended RV Sewer Hose Management System with its cam lock. Anyone ever use it on our coaches? Not sure if it will fit well for long term use.
They are pricey but look well made.

Be interested in what you guys and girls use to empty the tanks.
Bob

I have the Waste Master set up as does Don. Look for his post on how he set his up. It is much nicer than the way mine is at this time. Can't beat the hose and nozzle for durability.

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Reply #3 – December 25, 2019, 08:44:09 am

X2 Craneman, I have the Lippert Waste Management and in my mind it can't be beat

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Reply #4 – December 25, 2019, 11:00:34 am

Great. Like the design but not sure if it would fit.

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Reply #5 – December 25, 2019, 07:52:09 pm

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Like that Lippert 359724 Waste Master 20' Extended RV Sewer Hose Management System with its cam lock. Anyone ever use it on our coaches?

I also use the Lippert and really like it. No more leaks. No way to fit it in the factory storage pipe. I got rid of that and installed PVC pipe running fore and aft. Works great.
jor

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Reply #6 – December 25, 2019, 08:48:42 pm

For your information their is a tool that you can buy that will drill out the inside of the existing connector so you can fit it in the same space as I have done.. if you are interested let me know and I will give you information .

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Reply #7 – December 25, 2019, 08:52:04 pm

Update Jones-Stephens Company J44-300 3" PVC Socket Saver, 3-Inch Jones-Stephens Company J44-300 3" PVC Socket Saver, 3-Inch - Plumbing Hoses...

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Reply #8 – December 26, 2019, 12:43:46 am

The clearance is tight, but it can be done if your wetbay has enough room between the partition and the compartment door to install the female camlock fitting with enough room to allow the hose to turn down 90º and exit with the door latched. Of course that only applies if you wish to leave the hose connected rather than just bringing the hose out to dump. In my installation of the Wastemaster hose, I can close the compartment and latch it, but if there was any less room then there is in our 99' U270, I would have had to develop another approach. Here is a link to one of my topics which has some info on doing this kind of conversion.
Don
Utility Bay 2.0, Part 1- WasteMaster Camlock Sewer Hose Install

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Reply #9 – December 26, 2019, 02:18:26 am

Nice Don.
My issue is when they redid the basement, instead of a drop down door to access the wetbay, a round screw in deck plate access hatch was installed. But maybe it will be good to build a proper access hatch instead.

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Reply #10 – December 26, 2019, 04:35:44 am

Update Jones-Stephens Company J44-300 3" PVC Socket Saver, 3-Inch Jones-Stephens Company J44-300 3" PVC Socket Saver, 3-Inch - Plumbing Hoses...

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Reply #11 – December 26, 2019, 08:08:53 am

Bob, you need to get stainless steel wool and get rid of all that rust as well as the critters.

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Reply #12 – December 26, 2019, 09:50:38 am

Quote from: lgshoup – December 26, 2019, 08:08:53 am

Bob, you need to get stainless steel wool and get rid of all that rust as well as the critters.

SS or bronze wool-- either works well and will not rust.

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Reply #13 – December 26, 2019, 11:09:05 am

I use different hoses and connectors than most have posted.

I use this 15' hose, and keep one extra (2 total for 30' reach if needed). Amazon.com: CamcoRhinoFLEX Heavy Duty RV Sewer Hose, Brown, 15 Feet (Pack of...

Connectors I use these: Amazon.com: Camco Easy Slip Elbow and 4-in-1 Sewer Adapter with Easy-Slip...

And Amazon.com: Camco Easy Slip Internal Hose Coupler with Slip-Lock Rings -...

And Amazon.com: Camco 39432 TRV155769: Automotive (with a clamp)

Thetford to valterra adapter needed if no permanent change yet on your coach: Amazon.com: Valterra White T05-2285VP Universal Adapter-Thetford: Automotive

For storage, the open end of the hose fits in the storage tube, and I use this end on the clear connector: Amazon.com: Valterra 1215.1115 Red T1020-2 Universal Drain Hose Bayonet Drip...

I've been using the above hoses and adapters for 13 years, 10 of them full timing. The hoses last me 3 - 4 years before pinholes appear, under full timer use.

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Reply #14 – December 26, 2019, 11:13:51 am

Or the kit: Amazon.com: Camco 20' RhinoFLEX 20-Foot RV Sewer Hose Kit, Swivel Transparent...

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Reply #15 – December 26, 2019, 01:23:40 pm

Quote from: wolfe10 – December 26, 2019, 11:13:51 am

Or the kit: Amazon.com: Camco 20' RhinoFLEX 20-Foot RV Sewer Hose Kit, Swivel Transparent...

I don't buy the kit because the ends will not allow storage in the stock storage tube location, and two ea 15' hoses give me 30' reach if needed.

The ones I linked, you remove the end that goes into the campground receptacle, and then the hose stores in stock location. And the connectors to combine 2 hoses, and for the ground end connector are very easy and fast to install and remove (tapered design).

Most of the time one 15' hose is enough. The second 15' hose I connect together using the hose connector. No spillage when connected and placed in a tub in another storage bay.

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Reply #16 – December 26, 2019, 10:18:17 pm

Quote from: wolfe10 – December 26, 2019, 09:50:38 am

SS or bronze wool-- either works well and will not rust.

Yes. I have a big roll of stainless steel just need to switch some out.

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Reply #17 – December 27, 2019, 02:26:23 pm

I prefer the 45 degree ( clear ) elbo on the coach end of the hose. That way I can see immediately what's coming out when I'm back flushing the black tank. And the 45 is more manageable in storage than a larger 90 degree would be.
We use camco cause Murphy happens and lots of places have replacement stuff.

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Reply #18 – December 27, 2019, 08:28:42 pm

Quote from: wolfe10 – December 26, 2019, 09:50:38 am

SS or bronze wool-- either works well and will not rust.

Quote from: lgshoup – December 26, 2019, 08:08:53 am

Bob, you need to get stainless steel wool and get rid of all that rust as well as the critters.

First thing I thought when I saw that photo. "OMG, That guy REALLY NEEDS a sewer hose.

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Reply #19 – December 29, 2019, 11:14:25 pm

Its rust from steel wool. Old photo as well.
Don read with interest your post from 5 years ago when you did your utility bay project. I am at the beginning of that. I'm not sure that the way my hole is for the waste hose that it will work, but want to use this wastemaster hose. I am thinking of cutting back, removing the third valve, and putting a remote third valve behind the cover which will give me some clearance to install this thing.
I am also installing the Glendinning HoseMaster Model M freshwater hose reel, and the new Glendinning CRMA 50 foot cable master cord.

I will probably replace all three valves since they look like they will need it soon. Not looking forward to this but it needs to be done.
Will have to drain my tanks first, and I have some clean outs at home that I will be able to drain to. Don't want to have to do this once on the road full time.

Really like the finish of your completed project. Not sure mine will be quite as nice but as long as its functional, i'm good with that.
Did you use stainless or aluminum plate in your project?
Thanks
Bob

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Reply #20 – December 30, 2019, 10:36:31 am

I used a mixture of 22 gauge stainless steel sheet cut to size from a place called IMS (Industrial Metal Supply). I supplied them a cut sheet listing the sizes I wanted. I asked for 26 gauge and they weren't happy with the cuts, so they offered me 22 gauge for the same price. It was easier for their shear to cut the thicker material cleanly. Funny thing was that they gave me the 26 gauge material with its slightly less than perfect cuts for free along with the 22 gauge material that I paid for at the 16 gauge price. I ended up using a mixture of 22 and 26 gauge. The gauge panel and the part that holds the power receptacle, dump valves etc., is 22 gauge. The part that lines the walls and covers the slanted part of the tanks is 26 gauge. I am still doing projects with the leftovers from that job.
Since this basement replacement was done without the notch, maybe you can make another hole where it will work better. Have you used a magnet to locate the framing under the fiberglass? If there is an area that is large enough to make a new useable hole without hitting the framing... well, you do have an opportunity for some creative problem solving. For one thing, not having a notch means you will have to disconnect the hose each time, but that is the way of most campers anyway. But since the camlock takes up a certain amount of space, the problem for you will be to make a 90º bend towards the outlet. Maybe angling the camlock by using 22.5º ABS elbow... Anyway, I am sure you will be able to make it work somehow. Where there is a will, there is way.

It is all worth it in the end, I pat myself on the back every time I have to dump, hook or unhook the coach. It is now as close to a painless process as possible. Good luck!
Don

Quote from: Bob and Julie – December 29, 2019, 11:14:25 pm

Really like the finish of your completed project. Not sure mine will be quite as nice but as long as its functional, i'm good with that.
Did you use stainless or aluminum plate in your project?
Thanks
Bob

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Reply #21 – December 30, 2019, 08:46:21 pm

Don , looking at post 8 pic have you combined your black and grey tanks?
Chris
Never mind I went back and looked again and see both handles

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Reply #22 – December 31, 2019, 12:45:58 am

Thanks Don for that explanation of your project. Yes the notch would be great and solve a lot of my issues.
Lining the wet bay in stainless steel would look really good but I think I'm just going to stick to white paint. Right now my water tanks exposed on both sides and actually kind of like it cuz I can see at a glance how much water is in the tank but a cleaner more finished look would be nicer. I'm not really sure though in the long run if it's as big of an issue with the waist pipe as I think it is. Since it's never a good idea to run waste right out the hose, and better to let it build up in the tank and empty it intermittently, I probably really never need or want to have the hose hooked up all the time. The time will tell I guess.

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Reply #23 – December 31, 2019, 10:49:01 am

When DW is doing washing we open the grey water valve but never the black. always let black build up since liquids will outrun solids you could wind up with a tank full of poo and no way to get it out!!!
Chris

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Reply #24 – December 31, 2019, 11:18:15 am

Bob,
Just to be clear, when I say leaving it hooked up, I am referring to the camlock connector on the coach. The hose is generally stowed in this position for travel, though The entire hose assembly will easily fit in the space below the reels. I just grab the business end when I want to dump and unscrew my homemade ABS cap from the free end of the hose. When done dumping and all valves are closed, I collapse the hose and screw on the cap. The cap I made prevents any dripping. The hose itself contains a ball valve, but though I close it, there would still be some dripping without the cap unless you let it drain awhile. In my opinion, they should have included a cap for the end of the hose, but... still, I wouldn't have any other hose. Here is a picture of how I usually travel with it as well as with the hose unhooked and stowed, which I never bother to do as the outside of the hose remains sanitary. Every once in awhile, I stretch the hose out to its full 20' length and wipe it down before I put it away. Occasionally, I will rig it with a sewer hose support when we are staying somewhere with full hookups and Tys wants to catch up on laundry, but mostly, I just take it out to dump and put it away in the travel position. As I have often repeated, much of what I did on the utility compartment was facilitated by the fact that I already had everything apart for the bulkhead/basement repair. Lemons and lemonade and all that...
Don

Quote from: Bob and Julie – December 31, 2019, 12:45:58 am

Thanks Don for that explanation of your project. Yes the notch would be great and solve a lot of my issues.
Lining the wet bay in stainless steel would look really good but I think I'm just going to stick to white paint. Right now my water tanks exposed on both sides and actually kind of like it cuz I can see at a glance how much water is in the tank but a cleaner more finished look would be nicer. I'm not really sure though in the long run if it's as big of an issue with the waist pipe as I think it is. Since it's never a good idea to run waste right out the hose, and better to let it build up in the tank and empty it intermittently, I probably really never need or want to have the hose hooked up all the time. The time will tell I guess.

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