Removing stripped wheel stud

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Removing stripped wheel stud

February 09, 2020, 07:53:22 pm

The lug nuts on the driver's front wheel are on very, very tight. I used a torque multiplier in an attempt to remove one and apparently succeeded in stripping the stud as now it will spin freely.

Any suggestions on how to get it off?

Once I get it....and all of the remaining nuts off (which I hope I can loosen), what is the process of replacing the stud?

Thanks

Re: Removing stripped wheel stud

Reply #1 – February 09, 2020, 07:55:59 pm

Have you verified they are not LEFT HAND THREADS???

If so, clockwise to remove!

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Reply #2 – February 09, 2020, 08:03:52 pm

I did not verify the thread rotation. Never considered they might be different.

I will check before attempting any more of them, but now I have one that I have stripped and have to get it off too.

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Reply #3 – February 09, 2020, 09:05:11 pm

If you have Budd wheels and the socket is 1 1/2" the threads are left hand on the left side. The studs are replaceable. Post a pic of the rotor when you have the wheel off for suggestions on how to change it.

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Reply #4 – February 09, 2020, 09:13:46 pm

Your '97 will have Budd wheels (stud centered). So the left side wheel studs will be left handed. Once you get the wheel off you will see that you have a nut on the back side of the stud that will need to be removed and then the stud will come out.

Mike

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Reply #5 – February 09, 2020, 09:25:00 pm

if I am reading your post correctly the stud is spinning in the hub. I have drilled in the center of the stud starting fairly small and increase the size till of the hole till you simply side load the nut with the socket and extension and pop it off. Only need to drill to the thickness of the nut.
Scott
Craneman just mentioned that The rotors on the Foretravels have a nut on the back of the stud that pulls the serrations into the rotor. The stud is shouldered and the nut bottoms it out on the rotor.

Re: Removing stripped wheel stud

Reply #6 – February 09, 2020, 09:48:27 pm

Day D,

Took me a while but you will need this info. Here is the part numbers that you should need for the wheel studs on your coach. If you need standard studs. That is if you just stripped the stud knurled area that keeps it from spinning.
Euclid E-11723-R or Meritor 09002082-R Right side studs
E-11723-L 09002083-L Left side studs

Mike

Re: Removing stripped wheel stud

Reply #7 – February 09, 2020, 11:50:55 pm

Stud had a "L" on it....

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Reply #8 – February 10, 2020, 12:59:55 am

Thank you for all of the info. I will report back with an update soon.

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Reply #9 – February 10, 2020, 01:14:05 am

Quote from: DayDreamer – February 10, 2020, 12:59:55 am

Thank you for all of the info. I will report back with an update soon.

You might try turning the lug nut clockwise, the nut on the back of the stud will tighten up and maybe let you get the nut off.

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Reply #10 – February 10, 2020, 07:05:39 am

Quote from: Pamela & Mike – February 09, 2020, 09:48:27 pm

Day D,

Took me a while but you will need this info. Here is the part numbers that you should need for the wheel studs on your coach. If you need standard studs. That is if you just stripped the stud knurled area that keeps it from spinning.
Euclid E-11723-R or Meritor 09002082-R Right side studs
E-11723-L 09002083-L Left side studs

Mike

Mike,
Thanks for the part numbers. That is very helpful.

Re: Removing stripped wheel stud

Reply #11 – February 10, 2020, 07:35:04 am

DayD,

Now that you see a pic of what you have for the stud does this clear up what I was trying to describe as to how to remove the stud? You will most likely have to cut the wheel nut off but they are readily available. The backing nut has been over torqued so you need to replace it even if it looks good.

Mike

I need to figure out how to post that chart out of my Euclid book as it has the nuts that you need also listed in there

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Reply #12 – February 10, 2020, 07:53:22 am

I have gotten a P/M about this stud and I will share the question to all.
It was ask if this will fit all coaches? The simple answer is NO
This member has a newer coach with hub centered wheels, not Budd wheels (or stud centered wheels) like we are talking about on this thread. Coaches with hub centered wheels require a different stud and nut all together than these.

Mike

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Reply #13 – February 10, 2020, 08:26:12 am

Quote from: Pamela & Mike – February 10, 2020, 07:35:04 am

I need to figure out how to post that chart out of my Euclid book as it has the nuts that you need also listed in there

Yes, the picture makes it much easier. Good advice on replacing the nuts.
I downloaded the Euclid cross reference. Any recommendations on sources?

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Reply #14 – February 10, 2020, 08:38:12 am

Quote from: DayDreamer – February 10, 2020, 08:26:12 am

Any recommendations on sources?

I have a local truck supply company locally that I deal with if someone comes by with an emergency. I have also gotten studs and nuts off the net so shop around for the best price. Generally if you buy a box of 5 (that is the standard box size) you can get them much cheaper than a single.

Mike

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Reply #15 – February 10, 2020, 08:54:26 am

Some really great information in this thread. What part do you think gave away. The rotor or the stud?

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Reply #16 – February 10, 2020, 09:09:13 am

Quote from: craneman – February 10, 2020, 01:14:05 am

You might try turning the lug nut clockwise, the nut on the back of the stud will tighten up and maybe let you get the nut off.

Craneman, among other things I received with my new to me Foretravel, was a bag of stripped nuts*. Before I even think of touching one of these wheels, I will have in my hand a suitable torque wrench. The righty tighty righty tighty mantra is drilled into me from not only driving my '50 Chrysler until 2013, but decades spent servicing friends Chryslers.

*You can strip the threads out of the nuts without damaging the rear studs. I don't know about the fronts.

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Reply #17 – February 11, 2020, 12:02:27 am

So, is a 1996 U295-36 have left and right hand threads?? Never saw anything in the owners manuals

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Reply #18 – February 11, 2020, 12:10:31 am

Quote from: dans96u295ft – February 11, 2020, 12:02:27 am

So, is a 1996 U295-36 have left and right hand threads?? Never saw anything in the owners manuals

Yes the left side has left hand threads, if you look on the stud you will see a L stamped in the center. Budd wheels were standard in 1996 on the chassis' of big rigs.

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Reply #19 – February 11, 2020, 10:08:12 am

Toolmaker,check Ebay,found a brand new Proto 0-600 for $165.00.

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Reply #20 – February 11, 2020, 10:55:33 am

Left hand nuts will usually have a mark at each corner like here: NL24X1.5 - Left Hand Nut Fine [NL24X1.5] - .22 : Bel-Metric, Metric...

Pierce

Re: Removing stripped wheel stud

Reply #21 – February 13, 2020, 04:33:39 am

Got back to the coach last night and was able to remove all of the remaining lug nuts. Turning a left threaded nut clockwise makes it a lot easier.

I tried turning the stripped nut/lug clockwise too, but without success, so now I have to figure out how to remove it. At this point, I am considering three options, but open to all suggestions.

1. Use a nut splitter. The only ones I have found for 1.5" nuts is about $280. Nut Splitter Any alternatives?
2. Cut a 1/8" box end wrench so it fits between the hub and rim to hold the nut on the back of the stud. If I can get that nut removed, then have to hope I can pull the stud out using the rim.
3. Drill out the center of the stud to remove the nut.

Any thoughts on what might work best or any other options?

This easy job of servicing the brake pins just became a lot harder and more expensive due to a very stupid mistake.

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Re: Removing stripped wheel stud

Reply #22 – February 13, 2020, 06:27:22 am

DayD,

Out of these I would use #2. If the stud is spinning in the hole then it should pull out when the backing nut comes off. Doing this you still have to remove the nut and stud out of the wheel.

Or rather than that nut cracker get a Dremel tool and a hand full of cutting tools. Use this to cut/grind the stripped nut down on one side then take a cold chisel and hammer and brake what is left of the nut. If you do this you have to be careful as to not grind into the wheel when you are grinding in the tapered area of the nut that is down in the wheel.

Mike

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Reply #23 – February 13, 2020, 07:58:29 am

Quote from: Pamela & Mike – February 13, 2020, 06:27:22 am

DayD,

Out of these I would use #2. If the stud is spinning in the hole then it should pull out when the backing nut comes off. Doing this you still have to remove the nut and stud out of the wheel.

Or rather than that nut cracker get a Dremel tool and a hand full of cutting tools. Use this to cut/grind the stripped nut down on one side then take a cold chisel and hammer and brake what is left of the nut. If you do this you have to be careful as to not grind into the wheel when you are grinding in the tapered area of the nut that is down in the wheel.

Mike

Thanks for your thoughts Mike. Now that you mentioned it, a nut spliter might not work anyhow since it would not be able to cut the tapered part of the nut.

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Reply #24 – February 13, 2020, 09:24:39 am

Quote from: DayDreamer – February 13, 2020, 04:33:39 am

I tried turning the stripped nut/lug clockwise too, but without success, so now I have to figure out how to remove it. At this point, I am considering three options, but open to all suggestions.

This easy job of servicing the brake pins just became a lot harder and more expensive due to a very stupid mistake.

I know this is insulting and basic but, here I go again:

Did you confirm that the stud is spinning in the rotor?

And it wasn't a stupid mistake. It was an error caused by ignorance. Ignorance we can fix. Stupid is forever.

So. If the stud is turning in the rotor, can you tighten the nut and try and remove the lug nut? It's a last gasp attempt before drilling out the stud.

Cutting and hammering and chiseling is only going to damage the soft aluminum wheel.

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