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Re: Radiant floor heating

Reply #25
Could you measure the subfloor thickness at point where there's an accessible penetration?  Maybe at the steering column?
Great Idea... I need to get another boot for that area anyway so I will look at it today.

Ordered the laminate I found I liked.. So it will be here in a week approx .. Ill order the pex today also once I figure out the depth.. thinking the 1/2" will be ok but..

Re: Radiant floor heating

Reply #26
David, we just removed and installed our new flooring less than 6 months ago.  The flooring at the seating area was at least 3/4 inch thick.  I was having a hard time finding the right length bolts grade 8 for the captain chairs.  I put in all new at the time.  On the laminate flooring showing marks when you bring slide in and out;  I covered the teflon slide runners with ceiling cloth, thank you Chris Lang for supplying material,  but it still left some marks, so I keep 3 pieces of the flooring and lay them down when I bring in the slide and the slide rides over them.  You also have to make sure that there is nothing on the floors, as anything will leave a mark.  I lay the 3 pieces perpendicular to the slide and the slide glides run over them with no issues.  Hope this helps.  I also would consider the electric mat that you lay down before installing the tile or flooring.  This heats the whole floor evenly!  I personally would not worry about weight, as these coaches don't have a power to weight issue, in my most humble opinion!  Good luck!
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Re: Radiant floor heating

Reply #27
Hi!
 Just saw this post... do not kerf the deck.  The tile will crack over top of the kerf line, and the grout will pop as the deck flexes.  The deck is already as thin as it should be for its application.  If you already kerfed the deck, glue in a piece of solid wood with epoxy, then sand it flush and you will be back to 100% compression load spec. (no more flexing)  Then use the same method the factory used to lay the plumbing.  Give them a call.  Warm floors are mos def worth it.

Chris Wolle,
Master superyacht builder, marine electrical systems contactor, engineer, newbie Foretravel fanboy.

Re: Radiant floor heating

Reply #28
David's, I hope you listen to C Wolle, his advise is spot on.

It is sometimes hard for me too, to not reinvent the wheel.  This being said, if your going with laminate, and no grout, I will continue to follow your post, and good luck.

I did luxury, glue down vinyl tile in my last rv, never again.  I thought I had prepped well using self leveling concrete, etc., I did not. 

This summer, I will have a better experience in my FT, using a different product, much thicker, and the floor will be better prepped.
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Re: Radiant floor heating

Reply #29
Jack talk to me about your 92 sig? I sold 91's.  Monaco  did not heat the floors.  You did?  Two speed rear axle? To go back a little  Kay and page and Enoch hutchcraft stumbled on my unihome display at the la dodgers show in 1988.  Had the front tire pulled and had the suspension system exposed,  had the right front end on a jackstand under the hub.  Black painted parts,  and a looped video with chairs in front where the video monitor was in a large recessed black  enclosure where the folks could watch a 12 minute Foretravel story video.  Great tool.  Sold hundreds off the presentation in total.

So they told me they were going to build a copy.  Shook my hand. Thanked me.  Lovely.

I told Foretravel that Monaco was going to copy the design and they told me they were not worried about Monaco. Word for word.

Monaco got NYSE listed if  memory serves me.  They died hard in 2008.  Old competitor buddies.  Long ago on a different planet. Fun fun days.  We were all drinking buddies. Then competitors. The buddies.  Endless cycle.  Exciting.  Fun to win selling Fotravels vs pretty coaches
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Re: Radiant floor heating

Reply #30
Jack talk to me about your 92 sig? I sold 91's.  Monaco  did not heat the floors.  You did?  Two speed rear axle? To go back a little  Kay and page and Enoch hutchcraft stumbled on my unihome display at the la dodgers show in 1988.  Had the front tire pulled and had the suspension system exposed,  had the right front end on a jack......

Above question from Caflashbob: answer below:

Your memory is good, here below, at the end of this reply, is a picture of me shaking hands with Kay Toolsen Dec 17, 2009 along with some pictures of prior rvs.

My apologies for the long reply, my strole down memory lane,  the long answer to your question about my floor heat in the 91 Monaco Signature Crown Royale.

Yes, copy FT they did, even the 8 air bag chassis, took them about 18 years though to catch up with Foretravel, so yes 2006, 2007, 2008 were great coaches, and 2009, not the later built 09s as employees saw the writing on the wall.  In March of 09, when they filed bk, they got me for $2,000 on a wrong part they shipped me that winter to AZ.

"They purchased Monaco Motorhomes Inc. from Eugene, Oregon mayor Brian Obie and changed the company's name to Monaco Coach Corporation, with Kay as president and Bill Warrick as chairman of the board. It was 1987." 

If you ask Kay, he joked that, if he were smarter, he would have retired in 2005, before the American economy ruptured. "I would have retired with a lot more money," he said, chuckling. "No, I'm obviously fine. I've had a great life and a great career, but I'd be lying if I said the last few years were a breeze."

The 1991 Sig had Cummins L10 Power rated power at 300 hp @ 2100 rpm. Torque. 950 lb.ft @ 1300 rpm. Two speed diff, 4 speed Allison, the 1992 Sig a huge improvement with the 300 hp 8.3, 6speed.  Got rid of a huge weight difference going to the 8.3 Cummins.  As far as the heated floors, previous owner put in new full tile with electric heat, spoiled me on those cold winter nights doing shows in Yuma and Quartzite.  Funny story probably around 04, 05 I'm doing a small show at the new casino in Florance, OR.  I'm parked in the parking lot dry camping.  A big dark sedan starts circling my 91 Sig, a big man, happened to be black, steps out of the sedan and walks towards my rv.  I'm thinking best to step outside now, and meet him outside, to protect my wife.  He says, I think you have my 91 Sig, I traded off in 1993, mind if I step inside and take a look.  No problem I said, inviting him in and much relieved.  He said "no, this is not mine, thought it was, I special ordered mine with black marble floors", and this had light colored marble flooring.  I laughed, said it is yours, showing him the original MSRP with an add for custom "black marble floors".

My previous rv to the two Signatures, my 1990 Barth, also had the L10 with 4spd and two speed diff.

My 1991 Monaco Signature Crown Royale 10 liter Cummins, L10, 4speed, 2 speed diff

Shared album - John Lewis - Google Photos
Shared album - John Lewis - Google Photos

1992 Monaco Signature Crown Royale  Same full body paint, now with improved 6C8.3 and 6 speed.
Shared album - John Lewis - Google Photos

My 1990 aluminium bodied Barth with outside washer/dryer.
Shared album - John Lewis - Google Photos

My 1990 Barth
Shared album - John Lewis - Google Photos


Picture of me shaking hands with Kay Toolsen at Monaco, December 17, 2009, after they filed for BK in March, 2009, and before being bought out of BK in June of 2009.
Shared album - John Lewis - Google Photos

97 U295 40, Build #5040, 6C8.3 325 HP
Oregon Continuous Traveler
Samsung Residential #RF20HFENBSR,
Xantrex SW2012, (3)AGM8D Hse, (2)AGM Grp24 Eng, Victron BMV-712, 1800w Solar 4 LG & 2 Sunpower
Extreme Full Body Pt w/hdlmps, new furn/floor, 4 down Lexus 2004 GX470 AWD curb weight 4,740 lbs
Prev: 1990 Barth, 10L 300 2 yrs; 91&92 Monaco Signature, 10 yrs, 10L C 300 &  6C8.3 300; 1997 ForeT 6C8.3 325 since May 2017.  Employed by Guaranty RV 14+ yrs.  Former VW New Car Dlr/Service Dlr, Sales Mgr, Rv Sales, and Service Adviser from 1968-2017
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Re: Radiant floor heating

Reply #31
No worries.. with the new floor skin I am adding I won't be into the main flooring at all or if I am.. just a skim.. we will be ok.. hang tight as I am getting closer..

I did find a problem with the guide blocks. One is broken and the rubber insulate piece is worn out. So I will fix it as I get to them