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Average Fuel mileage

First 650 miles going over two passes in Utah I averaged 9.5mpg.  Wasn't pulling anything. Does that seem about right?
1996 U295-36, Cummins 300hp, 8.3. Build number 4864. Vin number 1F97D536XTNO54271. Purchased October 31, 2019.

Re: Average Fuel mileage

Reply #1
Yes.  Full tire pressure?  Adds 1/2 or a bit more mpg to overinflate the tires.

If you change the hydraulic engine radiator fan controller to a 199 degree full fan speed unit from source engineering in Oregon versus the 185 Unit in there now you will probably add 50hp and 1mpg

Engine runs same temps either way.  Foretravel turned the cooling system on full high after the engine warms up regardless of load and temps
"Riding and rejoicing"
Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

1095 watts solar
08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4

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Reply #2
If you search the forum you will find tons of previous discussion of fuel economy/mpg  ;)
Learn every day, but especially from the experiences of others. It's cheaper!  - John C. Bogle

2000 U320 36' non-slide / WildEBeest Rescue
2003 U320

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Reply #3
Yes.  Full tire pressure?  Adds 1/2 or a bit more mpg to overinflate the tires.

If you change the hydraulic engine radiator fan controller to a 199 degree full fan speed unit from source engineering in Oregon versus the 185 Unit in there now you will probably add 50hp and 1mpg

Engine runs same temps either way.  Foretravel turned the cooling system on full high after the engine warms up regardless of load and temps
How much is that puppy?
Chris and Tammy White  CDA Idaho
Previous owners 1997 U295 36' 3126 Cat 300 HP Build # 4998
Former Foretravel tech & RVIA certified tech
Former owner Custom Satellite home/RV satellites 
Former owner Vans LTD  van conversions
Unemployed, panhandler, drag racer NHRA #6348

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Reply #4
$700?  without the kit.  Straight bolt in.  12,000 mile test so far.  All the other brands came with this one.  Idle is 185 ramp up to 199.  Thermostat does not fully open till 195 on my m11
"Riding and rejoicing"
Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

1095 watts solar
08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4

Re: Average Fuel mileage

Reply #5
$700?  without the kit.  Straight bolt in.  12,000 mile test so far.  All the other brands came with this one.  Idle is 185 ramp up to 199.  Thermostat does not fully open till 195 on my m11
Reading the info on their website shows that a nipple has to be welded on the water line. Is there another one that is plug and play as you say?
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

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Reply #6
Do you not already have a dynamatic fan controller on the radiator metal pipe in the engine compartment?  This is simply a replacement for the exact same physically sized unit. 
"Riding and rejoicing"
Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

1095 watts solar
08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4

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Reply #7
Nothing on my water line.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

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Reply #8
Ahh.  Endless differences.  Is your fan controller an Electic low/high sauer/danfoss?  I think that was the brand.  If so you may need source engineerings  kit.  Maybe yours is not full on like our dynamatics?  Maybe talk to source?    The electric ones failed on high.  Used to demo original 300 cats and point to the electric controller and mentioned if it failed that the fan went on high.

Interesting

"Riding and rejoicing"
Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

1095 watts solar
08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4

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Reply #9
At weight 28,540 lbs, our travel weight and towing a Subaru, we average 8.5 mpg. Without tow we see the 9.5 mpg with our 96 U295. I'd say you are spot on. We travel at 1800 rpm (engine purrs) which is about 63 mph. Works for us over the past 30k miles.
Alan & Gerri Ortiz
1996 U295 36 ft.
"Rocinante"
Hartwell, Georgia
1999 Subaru Forester
Build No. 4957 Motorcader 17399

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Reply #10
                               When I get 6 MPG  , I smile  . That's is as good as it gets unless I have a big time tail wind . Anything in between is part of the game and I just don't give a shit about it or worry with it . The choices are run it or park it . The effort on my part is seeking pleasure , and that is the reason I do it in the first place . Yes it does cost $$$$ no question about it , but like has been posted many times , " haven't seen a Brinks truck follow a hearse to the grave yard yet . "  I know , it's a personal choice thing and there comes a time when these choices come about .  This is mine  , I paid my dues . Now the big thing is to enjoy my good health as long as it lasts . But ----there will come a time  to hang up the keys . Hmm                                                  ::)  ::)  ::)  Brad Metzger
Brad Metzger
2010 Phenix 45'

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Reply #11
Yes, 63-65mph seems to be the sweet spot for this MH.
Thanks, just wanted to make sure that's about normal. Not complaining
1996 U295-36, Cummins 300hp, 8.3. Build number 4864. Vin number 1F97D536XTNO54271. Purchased October 31, 2019.

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Reply #12
Also, remember that topography has a lot to do with mileage. Lots of hills and turns mean using lots of fuel. Highway 1 from San Simeon to Monterey is nothing but turns and we are lucky to get 5 mpg. 58-63 with no toad, placard pressure in the tires and no headwind on a mixed highway will get just over 10 mpg. 75 mph drops the mileage over 1 mpg.

Sorry Brad but when I have to have the GPS in Braille, I will still drive it. Back off the throttle to have the Jake echo locate the cars next to you.

Pierce
Pierce and Gaylie Stewart
'93 U300/36 WTBI
Detroit 6V-92TA Jake
1140 watts on the roof
SBFD (ret)

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Reply #13
Yes, 63-65mph seems to be the sweet spot for this MH.
Same with our GV - 65 mph is definitely the sweet spot.  Easy, relaxed cruise, almost inaudible engine (even with Magnaflow resonator), and 7-8 mpg towing 4000 lb.  Plus, leaves about 15-20 mph reserve on the top end for passing slower trucks.  :thumbsup:
1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
"Nature abhors a vacuum"

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Reply #14
Do what we do. Slow down. Enjoy the journey. The panoramic view from the big front window and sitting up high lets you really see the country.
Nitehawk,  Demolition Lady, & our NEW master, Zippy the speeding BB cat.
1989 Grand Villa 36' ORED
Oshkosh chassis, 8.2 DD V8
2006 Saturn Vue AWD

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Reply #15
My mileage is variable depending on speed, terrain, headwinds, weight, and towing.  I have seen as low as 6 mpg (going up in elevation with major headwind) and as high as 11 mpg (going down in elevation and having major tailwind).  I would say on average with full water and a vehicle weight of 30,750 lbs and with towing a Jeep Cherokee (4650 lbs) while doing 62 MPH that my overall average is 7.5 to 8 mpg.
2002 36' U270 Foretravel

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Reply #16
We bought our coach in California almost 10 years ago.  We drove 2400 miles to home with no toad and not much in it.  Our 2001 U320 36' ISM11 got 9.6 mpg.  Well now that it is full and we tow a Jeep Cherokee, over the last 70K miles it has averaged Just under 8 mpg.  We do some long driving days but we tend to stay where we get longer now.  For the 5-7 months a year we are traveling we averaging less than 40 miles a day.
Roger Engdahl and Susan Green
2001 U320 3610 #5879 (Home2) - 2014 Jeep Cherokee or 2018 F150
Hastings, MN

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Reply #17
The VMSpc shows lifetime mileage on my 40' with the ISM as 7.5 mpg. It always towed and is now towing 2014 Grand Cherokee.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

Re: Average Fuel mileage

Reply #18
The parasitic power losses I reduced raised the mpg "sweet spot" from 65 to 70 or a bit more.

Resonator, low rolling resistance tires, enough solar to turn off the alternator during the drive, hydraulic fan drive controller, blue tech air filter and synthetic oil wheel bearings, adjust valves and injectors and replace cam position sensor and ambient air pressure sensor with updated parts.

Fan and resonator made it much more enjoyable to drive without regular downshifting.  Tires were noticeable also

Tow 4K solara convertible

If I could stand it driving on flat ground at low 60's mph with low wind the coach could get close to 10mpg.

Never going to happen although.  8.2 towing and driving it hard as needed

"Riding and rejoicing"
Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

1095 watts solar
08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4

Re: Average Fuel mileage

Reply #19
Photos of Pro-Link 9000 fuel mileage when we bought the tool. Mileage has improved 0.1 mpg to exacty 8.0 at about 110,000 miles and we live in the Sierras.

Pierce
Pierce and Gaylie Stewart
'93 U300/36 WTBI
Detroit 6V-92TA Jake
1140 watts on the roof
SBFD (ret)

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Reply #20
Mine gets 8 MPG since I've owned it 2006. Fuel ⛽️ Is just a cost of doing business.
Bruce, Linda, and Macy
Zoey RIP 1/20/19
1999 U295 40' build #5400
2017 silver Jeep Wrangler, 1260 watts of solar on top
Moving around the country

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Reply #21
Averaging 8. Travel mostly West and lots of up and down.
1998 36 foot U270 Build No. 5328 WTFE, 900 watts solar, Victron controller, B2B, bat monitor, 600 AMPH lithium with 2018 Chevy Colorado toad, SKP #110239, Motorcade #17781, 2021 Escape 17B for when Coach is broken down and campsites are too small, retired and full-timer since Dec. 2020. Part of RV family since 1963.

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Reply #22
I get about 7.5 - 8mpg. To me it's simply an mpg game I play with the VMSpc while driving to try and maximize the MPG and keeping myself engaged (not bored) with the driving. But I'm finding that other than just removing the heavy rock from the throttle pedal. Most of the MPG results are beyond my control due to wind and topography issues.

The best thing one can do to lower your fuel expenses is get the EFS fuel card and just pay less for fuel.
Jerry & Nona and Kimeru the cat that thinks she's a dog
1998 36' WTFE U320  #5314 Motorcade #17711
USAF 1975-1995
2019 Subaru Crosstrek 'toad'
2003 Subaru Legacy touring car
jerry Fincher | Flickr

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Reply #23
The VMSpc shows lifetime mileage on my 40' with the ISM as 7.5 mpg. It always towed and is now towing 2014 Grand Cherokee.
Lifetime 8.1 on our VMSpc. But I don't know the towing history.
Jerry & Nona and Kimeru the cat that thinks she's a dog
1998 36' WTFE U320  #5314 Motorcade #17711
USAF 1975-1995
2019 Subaru Crosstrek 'toad'
2003 Subaru Legacy touring car
jerry Fincher | Flickr

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Reply #24
SPEED is the #1 killer for MPG.  Aerodynamic drag is the issue.

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Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
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