Wanted dead or alive

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Reply #75 – June 29, 2020, 06:15:00 am

Scott, it could be a tiny bit low of coolant in the reservoir tank. Make sure it's up to the low level in the overflow tank also...

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Reply #76 – June 29, 2020, 07:06:37 am

Quote from: dsd – June 28, 2020, 10:58:33 pm

. Will order a correct ecm Monday among other things.

Scott,

Before you buy an ECM and start throwing parts at it give ECM King - Heavy Duty Truck ECM Rebuilders & Remanufacturers a call. ECM King is well know around here. Frank or Jeff (one is the owner the other is the head tech. don't remember which is which) are well versed in repair and can fix you up.

Mike

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Reply #77 – June 29, 2020, 09:14:15 am

Scott, ECM King will diagnose your ECM for free, you would only be out the shipping. They will give you the straight info on your situation.

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Reply #78 – June 29, 2020, 11:54:12 am

Quote from: dsd – June 19, 2020, 07:49:46 pm

I just had the craziest thought. May be he put fuel stabilizer in it? Nah my luck couldn't be that good. Very excited to get back there. Yes the little varmints can do a lot of damage. We rarely have problems with small varmints. Usually just rabbits. But I've had to relocate three mice a day for the last 3 weeks. No cat here would eat all the lizards. Also been averaging one Antelope chipmunk a day. It will probably need a slide bladder also. Aluminum tape and foam tubing to get home 10K in repairs I WISH. I'll dream thou
Think that year slide has to be removed. Yes what a exciting summer. Thank you Mr Sickel and Mr Lang! It takes a Community to raise a child or move a nearly abandoned foretravel. Thank you everyone

Scott, you will never meet two more nicer people that are always willing to help one out! Our best to you on your new to you purchase!

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Reply #79 – June 29, 2020, 10:24:05 pm

Finally alive. So with a borrowed ecm Bubba stopped by and reran codes with engine running and sure enough a bad coolant level sensor. He had one on the same blown up engine the ecm came from and Problem solved. I'll pick up a coolant sensor and return the borrowed one. Also will give ECM King a call in the morning. Can run up to Cummins in Memphis as a secondary plan. Called Foretravel and they told me they just order from Cummins also and just use there programming nothing special. Installed rebuilt dryer today and was unable to power up HWH. On second press of button the no parking brake light dimly flashes. Suspect mice at pressure switch wiring. Air charges well and goes to 110 psi. After a hour was down to 85 psi. Not great but workable for now. Long days, good fun, great people helping Out. Bubba at Maryville and Sons Diesel repair have really helped and so far has way undercharged. All in all it's been exciting. Hopefully will get to raise coach to allow stands and further work. Lots of bizarre back stories to follow, most are good. Rudy, Mike thanks for the much needed advise. Tire are ready Tuesday if I was. Generator starting on a single red top Optima.
Scott

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Reply #80 – June 29, 2020, 11:41:12 pm

Ecm king at
6421 FM 646 South
Santa Fe, TX 77510
This sound correct? Thank you Mike and Rudy
Scott

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Reply #81 – June 30, 2020, 07:24:18 am

Quote from: dsd – June 29, 2020, 11:41:12 pm

Ecm king at
6421 FM 646 South
Santa Fe, TX 77510
This sound correct?

Yes that is where they are located

After running on borrowed ECM did you swap back to the other one to check it as it may have been the coolant sensor all along?

Mike

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Reply #82 – June 30, 2020, 01:47:35 pm

So the saga continues. Still unable to get HWH to power up. Cannot go into ride height mode either. Parking brake light illuminated with being set. Ignition on or engine running. 110 PSI displayed both tanks. C/B passes power. In equipment power bay. When you press the air button (brakes set, engine idle) nothing but bulb test 4 red, 4 amber illuminated. Second press still no light but the parking brake not set light dimly flashes center of panel. Air bags have never aired up under any combination. Power relay into HWH box has power but relay never closes. Parking brake released no change any ideas. On a good note title paperwork has been resolved and finished.

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Reply #83 – June 30, 2020, 03:42:19 pm

Quote from: dsd – June 30, 2020, 01:47:35 pm

) nothing but bulb test 4 red, 4 amber illuminated.

Scott,

Sounds like either you have a bad ground to the microprocessor or you have a fault in the microprocessor. If the later you will have to send the box back to HWH for repair. You can still go by just jump +12VDC to the grey wire that feeds the front travel solenoids and grey wire that feeds the rear travel solenoids in the control box. (at least they use to be grey) You will have to remove the 2 cables to be able to get to the pins on the cables with your jumpers. Doing this will supply air to the ride height valves and you are good to go.

Mike

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Reply #84 – June 30, 2020, 04:27:54 pm

So are they located in the HWH panel in the storage bay overhead? A link to a HWH print sure would be nice. I thought I had them before I left but now am unable to find them. Also no position lights in the position led box
Scott

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Reply #85 – June 30, 2020, 05:07:29 pm

Quote from: dsd – June 30, 2020, 04:27:54 pm

So are they located in the HWH panel in the storage bay overhead? A link to a HWH print sure would be nice. I thought I had them before I left but now am unable to find them. Also no position lights in the position led box
Scott

Maybe this will help:
Good luck, Dave A

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Reply #86 – June 30, 2020, 05:08:11 pm

So inside the HWH box were all the fuses and lights are there are three blue 15 amp fuses next to the Red 6100,6110 Wires /connector and the center fuse is blown.I think That's my problem if I knew were it is chewed and shorted. Or goes too
Scott

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Reply #87 – June 30, 2020, 05:10:16 pm

Thank you Dave!!!!!!!!

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Reply #88 – June 30, 2020, 07:08:20 pm

Dave the link is for the 800 series, and mine is the 860. They are different but it got me going in a good direction. If I can get the 860 link I can figure this out. The fuse that blows is F2 Ignition. May have a easy temporary work around to allow lifting the coach. This control box connection diagram was inside the cover.
Scott

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Reply #89 – June 30, 2020, 07:43:45 pm

Neutral lockout not active. Will shift to drive or reverse

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Reply #90 – June 30, 2020, 09:29:29 pm

Mike the 680 has the same wire numbers but all wire is black. The pin connection is very small. So I disconnected the Front ,rear, parking valve,And basically all the connectors not directly on the circuit board and it still pops the fuse. Only things left would be all the slide position, lock, unlock sensors if it still pops I'm going to power up 1700 and 3700 for ride height solenoids. I'll have to figure out what size fuse to protect them from damage. I wonder if I could also do the same with the raise circuit so as I can block up to inspect and lube? Still haven't been able to find a wiring diagram for the 680 HWH
Thanks for the great direction.
Scott

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Reply #91 – July 01, 2020, 12:00:29 am

Scott

Found this website in HWH. It has many variables to diagrams. You need to search for your specific one. Good luck.

HWH System Diagrams for Featherlite Manufacturing, Inc.

Later found this one now looks correct, says Foretravel

HWH System Diagrams for Foretravel

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Reply #92 – July 01, 2020, 07:31:05 am

Quote from: dsd – June 30, 2020, 09:29:29 pm

1. I'm going to power up 1700 and 3700 for ride height solenoids. I'll have to figure out what size fuse to protect them from damage.
2. I wonder if I could also do the same with the raise circuit so as I can block up to inspect and lube?

1. I have used a 10 amp fuse rather than the 7-1/2 as it was available.
2. Yes
I wasn't sure on the numbers for the wires as the 1700 and 3700 were for the older coaches without slides.

Mike

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Reply #93 – July 02, 2020, 12:49:37 am

So we hot wired both the travel and raise modes. Worked out well . In raise was able to put safety blocks in. Changed oil filter, antifreeze filter , lubed. Driveline and front axle. Inspected brakes and rotors. Took off blocks and put back into drive mode. So still no power to slide. Put vacuumed pump on bladder no deflation noted, bad seal. Jumped retract and unlock solenoids and ran pump and slide moved to the stowed position. Then operated lock and pump to set locks. No problem. Taped outside of gap with aluminum tape. Can stay on for weeks and will not hurt jelcoat or paint. Installed new wiper blades and we made 60 miles to the Sickels house. They were kind enough or just felt pity enough to let us stay. Really made for a wonderful end of a long days. Thank you so much. They have some of the largest mosquitoes if ever seen. It nice being out of beautiful Helena. Just 1470 miles to get home. Tires tomorrow in 30 miles.what a great adventure. Thank you Mike . Also will send Ecm to ecm King next week. Bubba loaned me the one we are using. Not the correct p/n but blessed by Cummins
Scott

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Reply #94 – July 02, 2020, 01:18:06 am

The Sickels are an hour and a half from Helena. I can hardly believe 17 year old tires made the trip. The coach has been rescued.notice the new owner inside the bay, checking out the Aqua Hot system.

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Reply #95 – July 02, 2020, 12:55:01 pm

Got tires. 2005 date codes are gone. While tires were off noticed the right rear outboard pad was much thinner than everything else. Suspect dragging. Running hotter than the others. Need to figure out pad part number and purchase a spare pad to at least carry home with me. If any one knows number please let me know. Are these available thou Napa? Were do I purchase
Scott

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Reply #96 – July 02, 2020, 01:03:40 pm

When changing pads/servicing the brakes, be sure to have the supplemental springs added/installed.

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Reply #97 – July 02, 2020, 01:03:57 pm

Scott,

The only pads I have ever seen come in sets.
Kit 15625 PM

helper return springs
kit 15018

A NAPA truck store for sure can get them or off the net.

Mike

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