Transmission service

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Transmission service

July 23, 2020, 11:30:34 am

Getting my transmission serviced for the first time since we bought the coach.
About $1200.00 estimate
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Includes transynd fluid, 4" sump filter and spin on filter.

I'm at W.W.Williams

Re: Transmission service

Reply #1 – July 23, 2020, 11:49:10 am

That is really high.

First, no spin on filter-- there are two filters located under plates that are easily removed with socket/rachet-- come in a filter kit from Allison.

Transynd can be bought by the 5 gallon pail and/or gallon. Again from Allison.

Labor-- takes about one hour to do correctly.

No special tools are needed (other than an inch-pound torque wrench) and the filter kits come with complete instructions, filters and gaskets (more gaskets than you will use so the filter kits fit a number of transmissions-- just use the ones that replace the ones you have on there).

To make sure you get the correct filter kit, give them your transmission SN (on plate on driver's side of transmission).

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Reply #2 – July 23, 2020, 11:56:38 am

That is pricey. Just did it myself, the local allison dealer had the filters...about $75.00 for the pair of internal filters (replaced by removing access plates in bottom of trans pan) and best price on Transynd at 34.00/gallon, bought 6 gals so I'd have a spare. That's on a 3060 trans, may be different for others.

But I notice something unusual in your WW quote, a sump filter. This is a strainer, basically, and not normally serviced unless you're having a rebuild done. Might talk to them about the necessity of this, it requires dropping the pan so is more work. And as Brett says, don't think there are any spin on filters....

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Reply #3 – July 23, 2020, 12:01:19 pm

Just to let you both know that we are out of here I will get an estimate somewhere else and get a better idea what they're doing.
I guess it's been about four months that I was given an estimate at another location for $600

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Reply #4 – July 23, 2020, 12:12:39 pm

Quote from: Lt403 – July 23, 2020, 11:30:34 am

Getting my transmission serviced for the first time since we bought the coach.
About $1200.00 estimate
😯
Includes transynd fluid, 4" sump filter and spin on filter.

I'm at W.W.Williams

Frank, if I remember correctly, we had our 4060 trans on our '98 changed to Transfluid at a Cummins service center in Nashville for around $500. I sure would get some additional quotes from that price! FWIW!

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Reply #5 – July 23, 2020, 12:20:01 pm

Frank, DIY.

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Reply #6 – July 23, 2020, 01:29:42 pm

Quote from: wolfe10 – July 23, 2020, 11:49:10 am

That is really high.

First, no spin on filter-- there are two filters located under plates that are easily removed with socket/rachet-- come in a filter kit from Allison.

Transynd can be bought by the 5 gallon pail and/or gallon. Again from Allison.

Labor-- takes about one hour to do correctly.

No special tools are needed (other than an inch-pound torque wrench) and the filter kits come with complete instructions, filters and gaskets (more gaskets than you will use so the filter kits fit a number of transmissions-- just use the ones that replace the ones you have on there).

To make sure you get the correct filter kit, give them your transmission SN (on plate on driver's side of transmission).

Just reading your article about transmission service, I need to service my alinsonat545 I , would appreciate any help in finding a supplier of this part and that would be able to ship to UK via usps or fed ex any info would be appreciated, thanks kev

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Reply #7 – July 23, 2020, 06:19:42 pm

Does 'Trans Service" consist of more than changing fluids, filters and a visual inspection?

Re: Transmission service

Reply #8 – July 23, 2020, 06:29:32 pm

Not that I know of.

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Reply #9 – July 23, 2020, 06:43:20 pm

Quote from: TGordon – July 23, 2020, 06:19:42 pm

Does 'Trans Service" consist of more than changing fluids, filters and a visual inspection?

Yup, that's it. Guess they/or you could also sit in the driver's seat and using the shift pad check for diagnostic codes.

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Reply #10 – July 23, 2020, 08:15:56 pm

Maybe they don't like officers,just kidding.

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Reply #11 – July 23, 2020, 08:24:36 pm

Run! That's rape!

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Reply #12 – August 11, 2020, 12:53:20 pm

got the transmission serviced at WW Williams in Montgomery, AL.

transynd and high capacity filters $623.96 out the door.

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Reply #13 – August 11, 2020, 01:28:21 pm

$525.00 at truck shop, filter's and change over 3 years ago.

$400.00 second time with no filters at Caterpillar last year. They tend to be higher, but coach was ion for something else.

Chris

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Reply #14 – August 11, 2020, 03:27:18 pm

Quote from: gracerace – August 11, 2020, 01:28:21 pm

$525.00 at truck shop, filter's and change over 3 years ago.

$400.00 second time with no filters at Caterpillar last year. They tend to be higher, but coach was ion for something else.

Chris

OK, I'll bite. If using Transyn why change the fluid so soon? If using Dexron why not switch to Transyn?

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Reply #15 – August 11, 2020, 08:17:43 pm

when I did mine last year it was between 400 and 450 12 gallon of transynd and filter kit. tech told me it would hold between 10 and 12 gallon and once it was changed I should be good for 100,000 miles. I plan to do a oil analysis on engine and transmission at least once per year just to be on safe side
Chris

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Reply #16 – August 11, 2020, 08:22:23 pm

I cannot say enough good things about G & W diesel in Memphis. They helped me out with a P-3 vibration issue after WW Birmingham told me I didn't have a problem. (I told WW what to look for) Excellent customer service and very knowledgeable techs. Eugene is the best.

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Reply #17 – August 11, 2020, 08:52:15 pm

Quote from: SteveB – August 11, 2020, 03:27:18 pm

OK, I'll bite. If using Transyn why change the fluid so soon? If using Dexron why not switch to Transyn?

"Change over" was the key word.....Because the transmission was switched from Dexron to Transynd......You have to do one service to Transynd with filters, then dump it again without filters.
There is still old oil in the converter, etc.
It does mix OK

Chris

Re: Transmission service

Reply #18 – August 11, 2020, 08:57:46 pm

Chris, Makes total sense. Thanks for the explanation.

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Reply #19 – August 11, 2020, 10:40:23 pm

Quote from: SteveB – August 11, 2020, 08:57:46 pm

Chris, Makes total sense. Thanks for the explanation.

Sorry I wasn't clearer......My wife accuses me of that too....

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Reply #20 – August 12, 2020, 09:41:05 am

Is the oil fill placarded to show to service with Transynd only once serviced?
Scott

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Reply #21 – August 12, 2020, 11:05:23 am

Quote from: Jet Doc – August 11, 2020, 08:22:23 pm

I cannot say enough good things about G & W diesel in Memphis. They helped me out with a P-3 vibration issue after WW Birmingham told me I didn't have a problem. (I told WW what to look for) Excellent customer service and very knowledgeable techs. Eugene is the best.

Would you share details of what they did and how it worked out? Thanks.

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Reply #22 – August 12, 2020, 11:45:22 am

I had a vibration that started at 45 mph and continued from there to whatever speed I had set. The frequency was driveline speed as it felt like a buzz in the steering wheel and your feet. I could almost hear it. The forum posts said probably a P-3 bearing...an issue with 3000 series trans especially in the shorter MH's. Most said about $3K to fix. I replaced the u-joints hoping for a less expensive fix but no joy. So I reluctantly took it to a local Allison shop in Birmingham. They said I didn't have a problem. I had them change the trans filters so I could check for metal. Luckily not a single flake. Maybe I was imagining it? After a 1000 mile trip I couldn't take it anymore. I saw another post where someone mentioned G & W fixed theirs for $900. Long story short...$755 trouble shoot, fix and parts no more vibration. The P-3 bearing was loose but not damaged. They jacked up the rear end and pulled the driveshaft ran it up and the vibration was still there so they knew it was in the trans. 4 hours total labor a gallon of Transynd and a seal. Super nice folks worked me in even though they were very busy.

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Reply #23 – August 12, 2020, 11:49:16 am

Quote from: dsd – August 12, 2020, 09:41:05 am

Is the oil fill placarded to show to service with Transynd only once serviced?
Scott

Foretravel would probably do that, mom and pop truck repair, or Caterpillar didn't.

I just put it in my records

Chris

BTW, they shifts are sweeter, or as Randell Brink said about his "More Elegant"!...I didn't expect that, kind nice.

Re: Transmission service

Reply #24 – August 12, 2020, 12:25:35 pm

I have a 99 Foretravel didn't they come with tranysnd. I will do a oil sample soon to find out.

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