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Engine water pump

So I'am a victim of my own device. My thought has always been, if the parts off in your hand, replace it. This came from a time in high school, when a friend replaced his clutch, then the rear soft plug in the block starting leaking.

So at 8K awesome miles (zero oil leaks I might add) on our rebuilt Cat 3126, the seep hole on the WP it leaking some rusty water. This tells me the bearing is wet and getting rusty, doesn't matter anyway, any liquid coming out of the W/P is not a good sign.

Yup, when I had it in my hands during the rebuild it all crossed my mind, and it is actually the only other part except the Alternator that I didn't replace. Even including the block heater. Call me anal, but I rest my case. But at $300.00 it cooled my jets (pun intended)

So the question is, how much coolant do I need to drain out to change it out? I am sure doing a Cummins is pretty much the same. I look at the radiator, and see how much lower it is. I realize the block, surge tank, and reservoir are all higher.I can drain and catch those.

I have huge clamps for the hoses. So part of me say's pull the hose, clamp it and catch the coolant I can. I have plenty of buckets. I want to save the coolant, it's extended life, and is only 4K miles old.I will filter it putting it back in.

So with that said, and tricks? Draining the radiator takes forever as you know, I always like to take the easy way out, even if it's a bit messy!

Cheers
Chris
Chris and Tammy White  CDA Idaho
Previous owners 1997 U295 36' 3126 Cat 300 HP Build # 4998
Former Foretravel tech & RVIA certified tech
Former owner Custom Satellite home/RV satellites 
Former owner Vans LTD  van conversions
Unemployed, panhandler, drag racer NHRA #6348

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Reply #1
I will answer my own question for search history. Drained about 13 gallons from radiator, and coolant tank into clean 5 gallon buckets.Some was still dribbling out. Clamped the heater hose lines. Pulled the pump and lines, got another galloon of misc. coolant.

Pulled the steel tank from the fire wall, per Bruce Beans suggestion. Lots of rust between them, not any holes. Light scrap then wire brush, then rust killer from Napa and some black paint, back in business.

Got a reman genuine Cat water pump from Western Staes Cat. My racer buddy works there, said they have zero issue with them.Comes complete with pulley etc. so just pop it in.

$275.00+tax, $250.00 core.

Going to pump the coolant back in with my 5 gallon bucket oil pump. Yes, it will be clean. Yes I will filter it.

Cheers
Chris

Chris and Tammy White  CDA Idaho
Previous owners 1997 U295 36' 3126 Cat 300 HP Build # 4998
Former Foretravel tech & RVIA certified tech
Former owner Custom Satellite home/RV satellites 
Former owner Vans LTD  van conversions
Unemployed, panhandler, drag racer NHRA #6348

Re: Engine water pump

Reply #2
Yep. Been there, done that. Glad you found it before a failure
1996 U295-36, Cummins 300hp, 8.3. Build number 4864. Vin number 1F97D536XTNO54271. Purchased October 31, 2019.

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Reply #3
Used Cat remans for years,good as new.
96 U270 BUILD 4810
85 380SL
Drummonds TN.

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Reply #4
Just did mine...3176B what a bugger.....1 coach buck in parts
Hans & Marjet
1995 U300 "Ben" (#4719)
3176B Cat,4060HD,Jake
SKP#139131
Motorcade#17579
2006 Honda Element (towed)

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Reply #5
Just did mine...3176B what a bugger.....1 coach buck in parts

Ya, but you have the BIG CAT!
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
Moderator, ForeForum 2001-
Moderator Diesel RV Club 2002-
Moderator, FMCA Forum 2009-2020
Chairman FMCA Technical Advisory Committee 2011-2020


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Reply #7
Gotta love them Cats
Bruce, Linda, and Macy
Zoey RIP 1/20/19
1999 U295 40' build #5400
2017 silver Jeep Wrangler, 1260 watts of solar on top
Moving around the country

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Reply #8
BTW, the pump was way gone. I believe in getting as many miles out of my parts as I can, you know, drive the value

out as Bob says!

Enjoy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vASuFOll8Y&feature=youtu.beChris
Chris and Tammy White  CDA Idaho
Previous owners 1997 U295 36' 3126 Cat 300 HP Build # 4998
Former Foretravel tech & RVIA certified tech
Former owner Custom Satellite home/RV satellites 
Former owner Vans LTD  van conversions
Unemployed, panhandler, drag racer NHRA #6348

Re: Engine water pump

Reply #9
Best revenge is living well. 
"Riding and rejoicing"
Bob & Susan
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

1095 watts solar
08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4

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Reply #10

Amen
Chris and Tammy White  CDA Idaho
Previous owners 1997 U295 36' 3126 Cat 300 HP Build # 4998
Former Foretravel tech & RVIA certified tech
Former owner Custom Satellite home/RV satellites 
Former owner Vans LTD  van conversions
Unemployed, panhandler, drag racer NHRA #6348

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Reply #11
What a waste of $$. A can of water pump lube would have done the trick.  ;)

P
Pierce and Gaylie Stewart
'93 U300/36 WTBI
Detroit 6V-92TA Jake
1140 watts on the roof
SBFD (ret)

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Reply #12
My background is aerospace.  I am proactive and replace parts hopefully prior to failure. 
"Riding and rejoicing"
Bob & Susan
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

1095 watts solar
08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4

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Reply #13
What a waste of $$. A can of water pump lube would have done the trick.  ;)

P
I do not understand the purpose of water pump lubricants. Are they lubricating the seal?
Most water pump failures, belt driven water pumps, are the result of the side thrust imposed by the belt.

Tim
Tim Dianics
Pam Sapienza
Vader PupZilla Labrador Canine (AKA Pup)
Columbia, MO
1996 U320 4000

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Reply #14
They don't paint them gold for nothing!!!
Chris

LOL, gold!
It wasn't painted, and didn't even come with the O rings to install it, kind of disappointing.
We are all good
Cheers
Chris
Chris and Tammy White  CDA Idaho
Previous owners 1997 U295 36' 3126 Cat 300 HP Build # 4998
Former Foretravel tech & RVIA certified tech
Former owner Custom Satellite home/RV satellites 
Former owner Vans LTD  van conversions
Unemployed, panhandler, drag racer NHRA #6348