Remove radiator

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Remove radiator

October 01, 2020, 08:45:52 pm

My first day removing radiator not as bad of a job so far removed side panel fuel cooler Air cooler and oil cooler rad is in bad shape just took my time draining antifreeze hydraulic oil taking off one piece at a time think I'll unhook hydraulic hose and pull hydraulic pumps out with rad looks like the best way had a radiator shop price me $16000. To do the job and said it would take them 2 weeks I'm keep track of the time That it takes me and sending the rad to a different shop I Hope I can do it under half.

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Reply #1 – October 01, 2020, 08:51:52 pm

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Reply #2 – October 01, 2020, 09:00:00 pm

Two of us, did one (R&R with an exchange rad.) in about 6 hrs as a FT tech. But we did them all the time.
Chris

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Reply #3 – October 01, 2020, 09:18:39 pm

I like that,, that fast I wish I had your experience my dad always said to me take your time do it right then get fast But I hope this will be the first and the last l.o.l but do like working on it's there well Built and beautiful Coaches

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Reply #4 – October 01, 2020, 11:35:37 pm

Yikes! That looks bad

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Reply #5 – October 01, 2020, 11:39:19 pm

Looks like new core time

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Reply #6 – October 02, 2020, 09:47:18 am

New core and I think the tanks too and the fuel cooler in bad shape after this radiator job is done my next project will be the air conditioning that in very bad shape also It's been one project after an other and big project first bulkhead then fuel lines then Steering box now rad and next air conditioning and after that shocks the air bags where change ten years ago I think there OK trying my best to get her in top shape and learning quite a bit as I go along the way. Thanks for all the help on this forum and all the great advice

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Reply #7 – October 02, 2020, 11:15:30 am

Rick I replied my radiator and CAC oct-jan of 2018-2019 the total cost from Atlas radiator ( people that built the original for Foretravel) was around $4,000.00. Be sure to pressure up the CAC to make sure it isn't leaking. I didn't check mine until I was ready to put radiator back in and when I found leaks (couldn't patch) it was 8 weeks lead time to get new CAC.
The difference in price for re-core and new radiator was around $500.00 so I opted for new radiator
Chris

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Reply #8 – October 02, 2020, 02:47:40 pm

If you gave that radiator another 2-3 years, it might look as bad as mine did. Congratulations on taking this on, it will save you a bundle. You also listed everything I had to do on my coach - glad to have them done.

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Reply #9 – October 02, 2020, 06:43:28 pm

Quote from: Chris m lang – October 02, 2020, 11:15:30 am

Rick I replied my radiator and CAC oct-jan of 2018-2019 the total cost from Atlas radiator ( people that built the original for Foretravel) was around $4,000.00. Be sure to pressure up the CAC to make sure it isn't leaking. I didn't check mine until I was ready to put radiator back in and when I found leaks (couldn't patch) it was 8 weeks lead time to get new CAC.
The difference in price for re-core and new radiator was around $500.00 so I opted for new radiator
Chris

Thanks I will do and going to look in to Atlas rad I I'm here in Canada don't know how hard to get one ship to Canada and the cost of shipping I will look into it

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Reply #10 – October 02, 2020, 09:15:48 pm

I had a bad CAC in my Dynasty and had it record and save more than half. I had the hydraulic cooler done too.

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Reply #11 – October 03, 2020, 12:06:46 pm

Bunch of years ago I repaired my CAC as there were 4 good sized holes in it from a flopping fuel cooler. Took it out and fixed it with Devcon filler. Pressure tested to 45 lbs and it has been good since. I was told by all it could not be repaired, even pro,s in the business. Glad I did it my way, as Sinatra would say.
John h

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Reply #12 – October 03, 2020, 07:17:40 pm

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I replied my radiator and CAC oct-jan of 2018-2019 the total cost from Atlas radiator ( people that built the original for Foretravel) was around $4,000.00.

Here is the Atlas current pricing for our radiator and CAC sans shipping:
Complete Rad/CAC Assy (as drawn) ... $3840ea
Radiator (jacket water) ONLY ...............$2488ea
jor

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Reply #13 – October 03, 2020, 07:48:03 pm

Quote from: jor – October 03, 2020, 07:17:40 pm

Here is the Atlas current pricing for our radiator and CAC sans shipping:
Complete Rad/CAC Assy (as drawn) ... $3840ea
Radiator (jacket water) ONLY ...............$2488ea
jor

. Going to call them first thing Monday if they have any available and will they ship to Canada I'm on the eastern coast

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Reply #14 – October 04, 2020, 10:17:16 am

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if they have any available

6 weeks lead time when I ordered mine about a month back.
jor

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Reply #15 – October 04, 2020, 07:02:26 pm

Here is the Atlas current pricing for our radiator and CAC sans shipping:
Complete Rad/CAC Assy (as drawn) ... $3840ea
Radiator (jacket water) ONLY ...............$2488ea
jor
Glad I did mine when I did my cost was about 4K for both RAD. and CAC!!!
Chris

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Reply #16 – October 04, 2020, 07:18:32 pm

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my cost was about 4K for both RAD. and CAC!!!

Chris,
That is the cost now. $3,840 for both. I should have listed separate prices. Just copied what they sent me.
jor

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Reply #17 – October 04, 2020, 09:21:25 pm

Just finished doing a radiator re-core on my M11 for $2500.00
My CAC was fine.

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Reply #18 – October 04, 2020, 10:14:18 pm

Jor that isn't much different than my cost when I included shipping to Little Rock. I mis read your post I thought it was 3840 for just the radiator
Chris

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Reply #19 – October 06, 2020, 06:25:47 pm

Quote from: Cape Bretoner – October 02, 2020, 09:47:18 am

New core and I think the tanks too and the fuel cooler in bad shape after this radiator job is done my next project will be the air conditioning that in very bad shape also It's been one project after an other and big project first bulkhead then fuel lines then Steering box now rad and next air conditioning and after that shocks the air bags where change ten years ago I think there OK trying my best to get her in top shape and learning quite a bit as I go along the way. Thanks for all the help on this forum and all the great advice

more pictures of the job I was thinking of changing all the hydraulic lines but that looks like a big job And expensive one How long are hydraulic lines good for I had one blow last month

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Reply #20 – October 06, 2020, 06:58:25 pm

Rick, I got on the gates website and got the correct radiator hose measurements and part numbers then went online (eBay/Amazon) and ordered all the hoses and some new compression clamps for the ones I thought needed replacing( I ordered 2 each because I like to have a spare--I've had new radiator hoses spring a leak)
The hydraulic hoses are tough answer I've had nearly new ones burst and used old Ines with no rubber covering only steel braid showing and they lasted several years--But if they are really stiff(hardly no flex and you have been moving them very much I might look at changing them. I changed several hoses on a backhoe this summer although bigger (1") and they were all about 3 feet long
it seemed the magic number for price was $100 to $125 so custom hoses aren't cheap
good luck and keep us posted on your decision
Chris

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Reply #21 – October 06, 2020, 07:01:44 pm

Sometimes you have to figure the labor it would take to change a hose after all is assembled. I would change any hard to change hoses that are now exposed. But that is me, do what you feel necessary.

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Reply #22 – October 06, 2020, 07:14:51 pm

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I was thinking of changing all the hydraulic lines but that looks like a big job And expensive one

I was quoted $1,100 to make up all the hydraulic hoses. The most expensive one is of course that real long one that runs from the hydraulic tank and across the back of the rig. Your work is proceeding nicely. I admire your decision to take this job on.
jor

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Reply #23 – October 06, 2020, 07:19:47 pm

Rick the radiator hoses I got were from Amazon gates 23550 2 ea for top and bottom of radiator
and for the Trans oil cooler I got 1ea. 21400 for end facing rear of coach and 1 ea. 21472 -- this hose has a 90 degree turn on each end and I had to cut the 90 off the small end on mine because the pipe it went on already had the 90 built in so I made the hose straight on small end. I checked amazon and they still have them in stock.
Chris

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Reply #24 – October 06, 2020, 08:24:38 pm

Quote from: jor – October 06, 2020, 07:14:51 pm

I was quoted $1,100 to make up all the hydraulic hoses. The most expensive one is of course that real long one that runs from the hydraulic tank and across the back of the rig. Your work is proceeding nicely. I admire your decision to take this job on.
jor

thanks the hose you mentioned is the one that blew out a month ago on the road cost me $325.00 for the hose it went from the tank to the oil cooler plus 4 gals of oil And about an hr labour and I helped out that why I'm asking. I'm not comfortable on the side of the interstate trying to change A hose I was thinking of just carrying hydraulic unions and fittings and Couple of feet of hydraulic hose to make one up if I blow one but my emergency toolbox is getting bigger and bigger all the time laugh out loud

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