Insulation and installing new sound system

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Insulation and installing new sound system

November 16, 2020, 01:02:37 pm

I'm installing a surround sound system and the old insulation up there is falling apart. It looks like sound insulation which is really
heavy. Has anyone used anything lighter.

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Reply #1 – November 16, 2020, 03:00:42 pm

My insulation was falling down too. I used this fence panel, cut to size to support the insulation. Works very well (for now).
Lowes Fence Panel

Here is a picture of the results. It is supported by the wood frame at the top and bottom of the cabinet.

https://www.foreforums.com/index.php?action=media;sa=media;in=4533#viewitem

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Reply #2 – November 16, 2020, 03:25:15 pm

I just pulled mine out. I may replace at some point.

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Reply #3 – November 16, 2020, 03:26:33 pm

Thanks for the idea but I have already pulled to old insulation out and vacuumed out the mess. Right now I'm working on cleaning up
the wiring up there and running the speaker wires for the new receiver.

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Reply #4 – November 16, 2020, 03:31:51 pm

I opted to do a similar fix as Greg (Reply #1). The original insulation, although unsightly and falling down, seemed to still be functional. So I kept it. (as Greg says, for now)

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Reply #5 – November 16, 2020, 07:38:11 pm

Old Guy
Can you take pics of your new surround install as I am putting together thoughts of doing a surround system to replace the bose system. I am thinking 4K video with 5.1 suround with subs and 43 inch TV with Wyngard in motion...

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Reply #6 – November 16, 2020, 08:53:54 pm

I reglued the old insulation, and added some spare radiant barrier I had around.

We went a different direction with entertainment. We went several years without turning the TV on in our previous coach, so this is us now. The surround speakers were already gone from the FT. The sub was sent to the street side.

We listen to the dash radio. At home it is tubes and Klipsch.

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Reply #7 – November 16, 2020, 08:57:05 pm

This is what I replaced my with. I pulled out all the old stuff and vacuumed it all up.
This is adhesive on one side. Was easy to cut, simple to put in, looked good when finished.
It seems to do a good job of insulating that area. Very happy with it.

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Reply #8 – November 16, 2020, 09:18:52 pm

Peter We ordered these speakers 5.2ch 4K AV Receiver with Bluetooth® connectivity | STR-DH590 | Sony CA and are going to use this receiver
5.2ch 4K AV Receiver with Bluetooth® connectivity | STR-DH590 | Sony CA The reason for this receiver is only one we could get to fit in the top
shelf. I think I will use the sound insulation again.

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Reply #9 – November 16, 2020, 09:33:01 pm

Hi old guy the link you sent for the speakers was for the receiver

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Reply #10 – November 16, 2020, 09:50:38 pm

https://www.costco.ca/home-theatre.html?refine=||Brand_attr-Klipsch&searchProvider=lucidworks I hope this works.

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Reply #11 – November 16, 2020, 09:54:38 pm

Klipsch Reference Theater Pack 5.1
This should work but we ordered them form Costco ca. for a lot less money.

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Reply #12 – November 17, 2020, 09:47:36 am

After removing all the old insulation and adhesive, I used a two layer system 1) used Noico Red 315 self adhesive against the inside cap 2) in the right and left cabinets I stuffed R-15 fiberglass batting held in place by L-brackets joined by metal pipe straps. The video disk recorder and video control center is located in the center section and fits too deeply to add any fiberglass batting there. I also relocated our DirecTV satellite receiver from the side compartment to the right OH cabinet.

Bob
2000 U270

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Reply #13 – November 17, 2020, 10:23:59 am

Hi Bob,
My original idea was to re insulate the entire front overhead with sound and heat insulation, (suggestions???) cut the cabinets to relocate the center one to where the TV was originally and locate the TV to the middle, which would give me more accuracy in the surround sound. This idea has turned out to be rather major than just a redo. Not sure if FT has these cabinets already in stock pre made (any one know? ) but I have seen the center TV in the 2003 and up FT's.

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Reply #14 – November 17, 2020, 01:05:28 pm

I had the same issue, and found a direct replacement for the same insulation that was up there. But I would not use that same heavy material again.

After endless hours of research in building a Sprinter Van into a camper, I found that using Noico sound deadener, along with Thinsulate Insulation provided a great solution. The distributer of Thinsulate says that you don't even need any Noico sound deadener, and I tend to agree. The Thinsulate by itself would be fine, especially in the motorhome. In the van, I really wanted to deaden the steel drum sound of the van, and really thought it would be better to use the Noico directly on the metal, and then the Thinsulate over that.

Thinsulate is the stuff used in winter gear for insulation. It doesn't absorb moisture, and is a very lightweight material. The Sprinter went from sounding like a cheap work truck when you shut the doors to sounding like a high end Mercedes. The difference from before and after, in terms of sound and heat/cold insulation is night and day. The Noico may have added a tiny amount of extra sound deadening, but probably not worth the money and weight expense.

Thinsulate would be perfect to use up in that TV cabinet across the front of the coach. It is super easy to apply and way easier to work with than the original stuff up there. And I will eventually replace any insulation I can get to in the motorhome with this stuff. It is not cheap, but the couple who distributes it from Oregon are super nice and helpful. They would be able to help you figure out how much is needed, and what thickness you will need.

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Reply #15 – November 17, 2020, 08:15:03 pm

Money can't buy a better quality loud speaker than Klipsch.. Manufactured 8 miles from my home since the 60's.. The only set I had I lost when my house boat sank in a storm.. Loosing the speakers made me as sick as loosing the boat

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Reply #16 – November 17, 2020, 10:04:17 pm

Dub that's good to know. I finished tracing all the speaker wires and threw out a pile of wire. If it isn't needed any more out it goes.
I started insulating and I using insulation I saved when I threw out a dish washer and then I will put in a couple of layers of bubble
wrap. We are looking at putting in a larger TV but it won't be now. The previous owner did a beautiful job of installing the one that
is in there now.

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Reply #17 – November 18, 2020, 01:52:44 pm

While looking for insulation I found this Super Shield Reflective Foam by US Energies. It looks like bubble rap but instead of air
it is solid foam. Has anybody used this product or know anything about it. Type in US Energies to find it.

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Reply #18 – November 18, 2020, 08:13:00 pm

I've got all the wires for the speakers in place and cleaned up some more wiring. The speakers are supposed to be here next Tuesday.

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Reply #19 – November 18, 2020, 09:00:21 pm

Old guy would love to see pics of the install and finished product!! Yes

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Reply #20 – November 18, 2020, 10:18:13 pm

I will send pictures. We were looking at putting larger TV in. To put a 32 inch would be easy if I knew how to build cupboard doors.
The middle cupboard would need to be smaller. We were looking at having a flip down TV in the middle but then the middle
speaker would be blocked. Doing the wiring I have pulled the bottoms out of the left cupboards and that needs to be put back in.

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Reply #21 – November 18, 2020, 11:19:01 pm

One thing to consider, when replacing the insulation behind the front O/H console, is access to the front clearance light sockets. I recently replaced our bulbs with LEDs and was amazed at how much silicone caulk FT used to seal them to the nose cap. I'm not sure how tough it would be to get them out, but bet foul language would be involved, especially if access from the inside was covered. I'll find out next year, since I'll be removing them before painting the cap.

Greg

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Reply #22 – November 19, 2020, 12:16:39 am

You are right Greg. I thought of that when I was insulating it and it will be easier to work on the lights than before.

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Reply #23 – November 20, 2020, 02:50:32 pm

I tried to take pictures a couple of days ago when I had the bottom of shelves and the cover that the thermostat is attach to off.
They didn't turn out. The third picture shows the wires I will use to hook up the receiver. There are two wires for the rear speakers, the
front speakers I haven't run the wires yet. One set is the wires for the bedroom speakers, another set goes to the radio and the
last goes to the sub woofer under the couch.

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Reply #24 – November 24, 2020, 06:51:24 pm

How are you ventilating/ cooling you receiver? It will put out considerable heat pushing all those speakers and confined in small enclosure

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