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Guessing I have work to do.

Gonna be a busy week.
Hans & Marjet
1995 U300 "Ben" (#4719)
3176B Cat,4060HD,Jake
SKP#139131
Motorcade#17579
2006 Honda Element (towed)

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What do you figure?  One per day?
1992 Foretravel Grand Villa
U225 SBID Build No. 4134
1986 Rockwood Driftwood
1968 S.I.A.T.A. Spring
1962 Studebaker Lark
1986 Honda VF700C
1983 Honda VF750C
Charlie, the Dog was broken out of jail 24 Oct 2023
N1RPN
AA1OH (H)e who must be obeyed.


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Two people can get it all done in one day if you have your ducks in a row ahead of time. Jacks, stands, tools, etc. Shocks don't take any time at all.

Pierce
Pierce and Gaylie Stewart
'93 U300/36 WTBI
Detroit 6V-92TA Jake
1140 watts on the roof
SBFD (ret)

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Two people can get it all done in one day if you have your ducks in a row ahead of time. Jacks, stands, tools, etc. Shocks don't take any time at all.

Pierce
Come on over and bring that speciality tool you made  :)  :)
Hans & Marjet
1995 U300 "Ben" (#4719)
3176B Cat,4060HD,Jake
SKP#139131
Motorcade#17579
2006 Honda Element (towed)

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I foresee a smoother more controlled ride in your future!  :thumbsup:
1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
"Nature abhors a vacuum"

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No need to rush, no need to drag out for month either.
Scott

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Complete set

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Douse all the bolts/nuts with penetrant and let it sit overnight.  Makes for a whole lot less knuckle busting....unless you have one of these.. Milwaukee 2767-22 Fuel High Torque 1/2" Impact Wrench w/ Friction Ring Kit -... I almost gave up on the job until the Milwaukee showed up.

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2001 4010 U320 build #5865 "Bluto-d-Bus" since 09/18
2006 Honda Element ESP Toad
Full timing since 2016 in Western MT
Copilot: Sitka
1975 GMC 260 Avion: sold


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Those shortened ratchets for the top nuts Scott has are the key to a quick R&R. If you have fairly clean with no corrosion studs at the top, the penetrating oil makes it easier. It you have rust/corrosion, the penetrating oil is a must. 3/4 sockets with Scotts extensions mean 20 seconds per air bag for the two bottom studs. If you jack it up like my photos, you have absolutely no need to pull the wheels for the top nuts. But Scott's ratchets pave the way.

Pyolet's Milwaukee is perfect for removing wheels but for removing the bottom nuts on the bags and doing the shocks without spending $400 plus, Harbor Freight's air impacts on this page make fast work of the job. Larger diameter 25' air line is good running off the coach air. The air bag nuts are easy but the shocks may be harder so the Earthquake air gun is 100% effective: https://www.harborfreight.com/search?q=impact%20air%20wrench . Consider the $$ saved and buy a HF air/hydraulic jack. Coupon for 20% makes the 12 or 20 ton inexpensive.

Pierce
Pierce and Gaylie Stewart
'93 U300/36 WTBI
Detroit 6V-92TA Jake
1140 watts on the roof
SBFD (ret)

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Save yourself some wrenching by using regular hex nuts with lock washers to install the new airbags, rather than using the steel lock nuts that you removed.

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where did you purchase your shocks and what is the part number
Rick & Hilda looking forward to full- timing one day for now couple of months at a time
1999 U270 3602
Built number  5530.  Feb 1999            Motorcade  number 18438
8.3 Cummins Allison six speed with brake  retarder
Purchased Nov 28 2019

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where did you purchase your shocks and what is the part number

Originally ordered from Shock Wharehouse but.....Reordered from Koni NA direct abit more money and freight but they were here pronto...
Hans & Marjet
1995 U300 "Ben" (#4719)
3176B Cat,4060HD,Jake
SKP#139131
Motorcade#17579
2006 Honda Element (towed)


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Save yourself some wrenching by using regular hex nuts with lock washers to install the new airbags, rather than using the steel lock nuts that you removed.
Look closely and you will see a tap to clear the threads. Just installed left two bags on my 320 since last post. I'll install other two tomorrow..
Scott

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I removed one of the shocks to do the right front air bag and that was easy. I have a flex long handle ratchet that I used for the top
bolts that worked but I like Scotts fabricated wrenches. I made a socket to remove the elbow like Scott did as I don't have a crows
foot. When I did the front rears I had the wheels off. The rears were already done. The front right I didn't take the wheel off which
I think made it harder and I took the left front off and no more climbing under to get at it. If I had to do it again I would pull all the
wheels. I change my wheels twice a year as I have snow tires so that's when I did my rears.
Peter and Frieda Morin
1999 36ft. U320 Foretravel
Build # 5436
1998 Suzuki Sidekick Sport

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Look closely and you will see a tap to clear the threads. Just installed left two bags on my 320 since last post. I'll install other two tomorrow..
Scott

Clearing the threads doesn't alleviate the need to keep  torquing the lock nut for the length of the threads.

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Clearing the threads doesn't alleviate the need to keep  torquing the lock nut for the length of the threads.
No longer a lock nut spot of thread lock and they just spin on
Scott

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Hopefully more...gonna pull the fenders also

I set the bar low so that I can be pleased with my daily progress.  I also put all of the necessary tools on a tray and leave it where I'm working.  I just slide in and continue working the next day with no time lost in getting set up.
1992 Foretravel Grand Villa
U225 SBID Build No. 4134
1986 Rockwood Driftwood
1968 S.I.A.T.A. Spring
1962 Studebaker Lark
1986 Honda VF700C
1983 Honda VF750C
Charlie, the Dog was broken out of jail 24 Oct 2023
N1RPN
AA1OH (H)e who must be obeyed.

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[quote author=oldguy date=1606611635 link=msg=409886
I made a socket to remove the elbow like Scott did as I don't have a crows
foot.
I have crows feet wrenches in three different styles. The white tool fits over the top of the fitting and can be used with a 3/4 gearwrench or my modified 3/4 gearwrench on the front to air bags. After about 3/4 turn the fittings should be loose.
[/quote]
The best part of my set is the locking impact extensions which lock onto the adapter wrenches and you can hang the entire setup on the nut without it falling apart.
I'd do these everyday if someone was willing to pay 50$ a bag installation. I may have a third set to install but I think after that there's no more in Boulder City that need changing
Scott

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11-30-2020
1999 U270 40 #5518
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Reply #22
Contitech as9448 is out of stock right now.
1991 Grand Villa U300

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Shocks are on my list for early next year. That's pretty cool that you guys make your own tools... My airbags were replaced a few years before I bought my coach but if I ever have to replace them again I'm coming to you... For helping figuring it all out.
'99 U320 40 WTFE
Build #5462,
1500 Watts Solar 600 amp Victron lithium
2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland Hemi
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I am buying contitech as9449 air bags and Gabriel shocks.

I plan to change by myself.

However, I search on the forum about how to protect the air spring, I get a lot of posts. But I can't find a picture to demonstrate how it should be done.  Here is my plan, please let me know if there is any issue.

I plan to use 6x6 treated wood, cut to 8.5 height. that is the ride height. I know forum recommends 2" receiver hitch.  But I don't know any welding shop near by that can do that. I can just go to homedepot buy one 6 x 6 x 8 foot.  Somebody mentioned the treated wood can support 7000lbs.  If I use 4 to support the body, it should be enough.

I plan to change front axle first since it is leaking the most.
Air up the bag to ride height, then put multiple (4) woods on front axle to support the body.
Use 20 ton jack to lift the one side tire off ground.
Use two 6 ton jack stand to add extra support.
Use the torque multiplier to loose the lug nuts.
Take off the tire.

This should give good clearance to access the air spring.
Replace the air spring, replace shock.
put back tire, torque to 450ftlbs
Repeat on the other side.
 
1991 Grand Villa U300