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What braking system for a 2003 U 320 towing 2020 Jeep Wrangler

I assume I need a braking assist system for a 4 DOOR  Wrangler, which options should I look at?

Regards

Klaus

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The world is not interested in the storms you encountered, but whether or not you brought in the ship.
Raul Armesto

2003 U 320 4020 Unit 6145

Re: What breaking system for a 2003 U 320 towing 2020 Jeep Wrangler

Reply #1
We just installed a m&g brake system on our Jeep. Works off the coach air brakes. Only made 2 trips but like it so far. Easy to hook up




Keith
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2003 U320T 4025 PBBS Designer series
Build 6203    Cummins 500hp
2000 U320 4010 WTFE / Build 5762 —Sold—
Motorcade #18070   
Pasadena, Texas
2015 Jeep Wrangler Sahara-Sunset Orange pearl coat
Don't argue with a fool, people watching might not be able to tell the difference.

Re: What breaking system for a 2003 U 320 towing 2020 Jeep Wrangler

Reply #2
I think the ones that use air from the coach to operate are probably the best.  They are fairly expensive and I was concerned about tying into my air brake system.  The part that attaches to the car system is also a bit more complicated.

I use a Ready Brake.  It is a surge type braking system and is simple to install.  Works fine with my Yukon so similar weight to your toad.

Manufacturer of the Ready Brute Elite tow bar and the Ready Brake
1998 U320 40'
2005 GMC Yukon
MC# 17609

Re: What breaking system for a 2003 U 320 towing 2020 Jeep Wrangler

Reply #3
I use Air Force One, easy to hook, up works off the coaches brakes, so doesn't come one when using the Jake or the retarder.
Peter and Frieda Morin
1999 36ft. U320 Foretravel
Build # 5436
1998 Suzuki Sidekick Sport

Re: What breaking system for a 2003 U 320 towing 2020 Jeep Wrangler

Reply #4
That's the key. Whatever toad braking system you choose shouldn't be activated by anything other than the main coach air brakes-exhaust brake, jake break, retarder.
Regards,
Brett

'99 42' Foretravel Xtreme
'14 Brown Motorsports Stacker
'05 Chevy SSR
'02 BMW R1150R

Re: What breaking system for a 2003 U 320 towing 2020 Jeep Wrangler

Reply #5
We are using a Brake Buddy.  Same unit has lasted through five towds.

Matt B
Matt B
1998 u-320

Re: What breaking system for a 2003 U 320 towing 2020 Jeep Wrangler

Reply #6
We use an NSA Ready Brute towbar with integrated braking.  Blue Ox Clevises and Blue Ox base plate on the Jeep Cherokee. I made my own base plates for our Jeep Wrangler.  Same concept, home made for my 1947 CJ2 and 1973 CJ5.  Simple, easy to install (it was harder on the Cherokee, more plastic parts), doesn't use coach air or electricity, proportional braking force. 

RV Tow Bars

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Roger Engdahl and Susan Green
2001 U320 3610 #5879 (Home2) - 2014 Jeep Cherokee or 2018 F150
Hastings, MN

Re: What breaking system for a 2003 U 320 towing 2020 Jeep Wrangler

Reply #7
That's the key. Whatever toad braking system you choose shouldn't be activated by anything other than the main coach air brakes-exhaust brake, jake break, retarder.

Ideally, I would suggest that it ONLY apply your toad brakes when you are using your service brakes (brake pedal).  There will be many grades where using (depending on drivetrain) the exhaust brake, engine compression brake or retarder to keep speed in check.  No need for toad  brakes to be applied in this case.
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
Moderator, ForeForum 2001-
Moderator Diesel RV Club 2002-
Moderator, FMCA Forum 2009-2020
Chairman FMCA Technical Advisory Committee 2011-2020

Re: What breaking system for a 2003 U 320 towing 2020 Jeep Wrangler

Reply #8
M&G engineering braking system seems to be the most foolproof, works great on my Jeep.

M&G Tow Brake Installation
Doug W.
96 36' U270 CSGI #4946
04 Toyota Tacoma 4x4
PNW

Re: What breaking system for a 2003 U 320 towing 2020 Jeep Wrangler

Reply #9
You're going to get a lot of answers as everybody will probably have something a little bit different. When doing my research wanted to stood out clearly for me and that was the air Force one. That's what I installed I've had zero issues with it. It's only used when I put the brake on or break away. I can see a light in my rear view mirror on the Jeep through my backup camera to know that when I press on the brakes it comes on.
It's not cheap and it has to be installed in both the coach and tow vehicle.
But that would be my vote.
'99 U320 40 WTFE
Build #5462,
1500 Watts Solar 600 amp Victron lithium
2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland Hemi
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Retired

Re: What breaking system for a 2003 U 320 towing 2020 Jeep Wrangler

Reply #10
I am another user of Brake Buddy, 3 different coaches and 5 different towed's and nothing to switch, just put it in the towed. My system has the remote which shows and lets you adjust settings in the coach.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

Re: What breaking system for a 2003 U 320 towing 2020 Jeep Wrangler

Reply #11
Ready brakes are proportional relative to the difference in speed between the coach and the toad.  If they are both going the same speed there is no toad braking applied assuming you have installed and adjusted it properly.  Going down a grade with the retarder engaged and the appropriate gear selected at a steady speed the toad brakes are not being applied.  Add more retarder or hit the service brakes and they will be until speeds equalize.
Roger Engdahl and Susan Green
2001 U320 3610 #5879 (Home2) - 2014 Jeep Cherokee or 2018 F150
Hastings, MN

Re: What breaking system for a 2003 U 320 towing 2020 Jeep Wrangler

Reply #12
Air Force one for us.  The coach came pre-plumbed for it  And I didn't want any boxes or brackets to connect on the toad floor.      Everything stays in place,, hook up one air line and done.  2018 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon.
Robert and Susan
 1995 36' 280 WTBI 8.3 3060r
 1200 watts on the roof, 720 Ah of lithium's
 Build # 4637. Motorcade # 17599
        FMCA  # 451505
        18  Wrangler JLUR

Re: What breaking system for a 2003 U 320 towing 2020 Jeep Wrangler

Reply #13
I have a 2016 Jeep Wrangler. I've been very happy with my Air Force One.
1993 U300 40ft GV SE
Build # 4344

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Reply #14
Roadmaster Invisibrake for us, hookup Jeep tow bar and go, nothing do. Has breakaway etc.
Under the seat, nothing visible.
Reads actual braking off the brake pedal of the Jeep with small dash light in MoHo.
Charges Jeep battery when park/headlights are on in coach.
As with any of them, lots of wiring involved.
Have installed several for other customers, they love it.
One thing I like, when unhooking, or hooking Jeep while in neutral, you can pull the brakeway pin, and the Jeep won't roll.
Have had both Roadmaster Even brake, and Brakebuddy in our Jeep, they worked fine, too much hassle to take in and out.But yes, easy to switch cars.

Chris

Roadmaster Invisibrake Towed Vehicle Braking System|94-9230
Chris and Tammy White  CDA Idaho
Previous owners 1997 U295 36' 3126 Cat 300 HP Build # 4998
Former Foretravel tech & RVIA certified tech
Former owner Custom Satellite home/RV satellites 
Former owner Vans LTD  van conversions
Unemployed, panhandler, drag racer NHRA #6348

Re: What braking system for a 2003 U 320 towing 2020 Jeep Wrangler

Reply #15
M&G had in 3 wranglers never an issue. No adjustments nothing inThe Jeep. Just plug-in. The air line and go
Bruce, Linda, and Macy
Zoey RIP 1/20/19
1999 U295 40' build #5400
2017 silver Jeep Wrangler, 1260 watts of solar on top
Moving around the country

Re: What braking system for a 2003 U 320 towing 2020 Jeep Wrangler

Reply #16
To Reply 15

What is M&G ?

Regards

Klaus
The world is not interested in the storms you encountered, but whether or not you brought in the ship.
Raul Armesto

2003 U 320 4020 Unit 6145

Re: What braking system for a 2003 U 320 towing 2020 Jeep Wrangler

Reply #17
Me TOO on the M&G>>>>
M&G Engineering | Car Braking Systems For RVs

Tim
Tim Dianics
Pam Sapienza
Vader PupZilla Labrador Canine Beast (AKA Pup)
Columbia, MO
1996 U320 4000
2021 Jeep Gladiator, Diesel

RVi Brake

Reply #18
FWIW, in my 06 Wrangler am using RViBrake (owner invented Brake Buddy and left to start his own company...in Colorado), and am 2 years and 20K miles happy with it and their customer service.  Like Brake Buddy, it will work in ANY towed vehicle with a cigarette lighter port.  Zero modifications to coach or towed required, but I did add a 6th wire to the center post of the trailer connector to provide 12v from the chassis battery post on the isolator to a trickle charger in the Jeep...just in case.  RVi now offers a TPMS which integrates into their dash monitor tablet, in case someone looking for a package.
2001 4010 U320 build #5865 "Bluto-d-Bus" since 09/18
2006 Honda Element ESP Toad
Full timing since 2016 in Western MT
Copilot: Sitka
1975 GMC 260 Avion: sold

Re: What braking system for a 2003 U 320 towing 2020 Jeep Wrangler

Reply #19
We use the M&G on our HD2500 Chevy and it works great.  Easy to hook and unhook, only works with braking and doesn't need adjustment.  I thought it was reasonably priced.

Glen
Retired Nurse and Bat Chief
2001 U320 36' 450 Cummins
Past 1981 Bluebird 36' 3208 Cat
HD2500 Chevy Toad

Re: What braking system for a 2003 U 320 towing 2020 Jeep Wrangler

Reply #20
I had the standard M&G system that mounts to the master cylinder on our previous toad, a Toyota 4Runner, for 10+ years and it would have been my choice for my new Jeep Gladiator if it were available.  Due to lack of space under the hood of the current Jeep Wranglers & Gladiators, M&G now sells an alternative system with a separate air cylinder.  In my opinion, it kind of takes away from the simplicity that made the original M&G attractive.  I've opted for the ReadyBrute/ReadyBrake integrated tow bar system for the Gladiator.

Re: What braking system for a 2003 U 320 towing 2020 Jeep Wrangler

Reply #21
I chose the Air Force One for my Acura MDX toad eleven years ago, and it has served me very well. I especially like that it runs solely from the coach air and does not require power. It also applies toad brakes only in proportion to coach service brake application.

I still have the MDX, but my new toad is a 2016 Jeep Grand Cherokee. It came with the same tow bar and Air Firce One as the MDX. Works great.
 
Tom Lang K6PG (originally  KC6UEC)
and Diane Lang
2003 38 U295 build 6209
2016 Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit Ecodiesel
still have tow-ready 2006 Acura MDX 
Temple City, California
Motorcade 16681 California Chapter President
SKP 16663 member of SKP Park of the Sierra, Coarsegold California
FMCA F071251
Retired electrical and electronic engineer

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Reply #22
Klaus, other options are RViBrake for lots of reasons and making your own with a $50 air cylinder, Jeep mounted air tank, 12v pneumatic valve and breakaway electric switch. All towcars need a tow brake system to stay clear of laws & insurance claim blame.

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Reply #23
As Chris said above, we too are big fan of the Roadmaster Invisibrake, took a little effort to set it up, but now just hook up the tow bar, plug iin the lights and away you go. Has a small indicator light on the dash to show it is working. After the install, you never even know it's there, nothing to disconnect ot stow. We have had a Brake Buddy and liked it, but the InvisBrake is so much easier now.

But.....as stated previously, we all have our own ideas and opinions.  I am sure that they are good.
Mark & Bev
2001 U295 36' Slide
Cummins ISC 8.3 350HP
Build #5802
Jeep Wrangler Toad

Re: What braking system for a 2003 U 320 towing 2020 Jeep Wrangler

Reply #24
We went from roadmaster Invisibrake on Cherokee too Air Force one on ram 2500--they both seem to work fine.  I believe the invisibrake was a little easier to install
Klaus by now you are probably thoroughly  confused!!!
I would have both the air force one the first time but we had a SOB coach that had hydraulic brakes and I had to have something that worked off the tail lights.  So as it is we can tow the Ram or the Cherokee depends on where DW wants to go and what she wants to do.
"there is something to be said for getting older( at least for me) I am more chilled out and follow orders much better"lol
Chris
1999 U 320 DGFE
Build Number 5523
Chris & Elka Lang
In the field, Lonoke AR