Need help on plumbing water leak

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Need help on plumbing water leak

January 31, 2021, 05:34:58 pm

Found a water leak today on the water manifold on the cold side bottom a reducer can any one tell me where to purchase one or point me in the right Direction not very good at fabrication of new pieces just like to replace broken part .

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Reply #1 – January 31, 2021, 06:02:48 pm

IIRC you are going from 1" to 1/2". What you have pictured is no longer available, but I think there is an alternative (all metal). Call and ask these people, or Viega.

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Reply #2 – January 31, 2021, 06:06:49 pm

Rick,

If the above suggestion doesn't pan out, try taking the broken connection to Lowes or Home Depot. I'm pretty sure you can find the parts in the plumbing dept to reproduce it. You will need to get creative and assemble it from several pieces glued together. Looks like that is what they did to make the original part. And...they were kinda sloppy with the purple cement.

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Reply #3 – January 31, 2021, 06:08:27 pm

That reducer isn't available anywhere I looked, be it showcasing or online.

Purple cement, right. I thought FOT made those adapters.

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Reply #4 – January 31, 2021, 07:46:57 pm

Maybe one of these and add a 1/2" nipple for length ?

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Amazon.com: Reducing Coupling 1/2" Female x 1" Female - Brass Coupling 0,5...

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Reply #5 – January 31, 2021, 09:57:46 pm

That brass female connector on Rick's broken part looks a lot like garden hose thread with washer inside. I know they have those at Lowes/HD because I used one to make my fresh water tank quick fill pipe.

What did you do to your coach today VII

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Reply #6 – January 31, 2021, 10:10:08 pm

If I remember right it's 1" NPT.

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Reply #7 – February 01, 2021, 01:03:57 am

Guys he doesn't have Lowes or HD available due to his geographical location. Supply House is a great resource. Mark

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Reply #8 – February 01, 2021, 02:01:02 am

Ace hardware will have pex. That's all I used. I'll now have an external pressure reg. I figured it sprung a leak once it'll do it again.

So I I now have a replaceable and adjustable regulator.

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Reply #9 – February 01, 2021, 10:45:04 am

As T-Man says try those folks, or call Foretravel parts you may get lucky, and they have some in stock. You might try these folks www.viega.us/en/products/Spare-parts/Plastic...

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Reply #10 – February 01, 2021, 11:33:24 am

That purple is not a cement, it is a very thin liquid primer that you use on that type of plastic, then follow with a clear glue.
By the way you do not need to make an exact copy of that fitting as all it is doing is transferring water form Manablock to a pex line. So, just get any fittings that fit both ends and make up a new piece say 8inches long with a 90 elbow for the bend and cut some of the pex line back, crimp on a new fitting and away you go.
JohnH

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Reply #11 – February 01, 2021, 12:24:12 pm

Quote from: John Haygarth – February 01, 2021, 11:33:24 am

That purple is not a cement, it is a very thin liquid primer that you use on that type of plastic, then follow with a clear glue.

I should know that purple stuff is primer and not the cement. I CANNOT glue two pieces of PVC pipe together without ending up with purple stained fingers and hands. I always forget to put on gloves until it's too late.

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Reply #12 – February 01, 2021, 01:13:58 pm

Up date on my leak after reading all the good advice last night I ordered the Viega 46414 PureFlow after doing some research It look like a part that would work but it will take over two weeks to get here I'm in no rush can't go anywhere with this Covid the coach is sitting in my heat garage instead of in the Florida sun then this morning I went to my local hardware store and came back with Reducing Coupling and reducers and a nipple I tried a 1"
nipple into the old Foretravel coupling and it screw in ok and the Treads looked the same but when I try to screw it on to the manifold it started ok but then started hard to turn so I stop didn't like how it Felt just try it by hand so then I tried gluing the old part together with ABS cement and them epoxy adhesive I thought I read that here last night but I can see it today it will now take 8 hr to dry before I can reinstall it back on to try don't know if it will work or for how long

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Reply #13 – February 01, 2021, 01:37:00 pm

Just try to avoid having "hose washers" behind any kind of enclosure. Normally at your house they might last but in a vibrating diesel pusher, apparently not. I'm impressed mine lasted as long as it did.

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Reply #14 – February 01, 2021, 06:31:40 pm

That white pipe needs PVC glue not ABS glue.

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Reply #15 – February 01, 2021, 06:35:26 pm

Well try glueing the old piece and it failed I tried my fitting from the hardware store and it didn't work leaking from the coupling at water manifold tried teflon tape it didn't work guess I have to wait three weeks if I order the right part . Going to call Foretravel tomorrow I've never ordered from them before who is the best person to talk too about this I read on this forum that they should have all the information on this coach at hand I was thinking when I bought this coach what a good thing this water manifold is you can control the water system now I wish it was like all the order rv I had they didn't have this manifold it was all hock in one
I would be in a real jam if we would be out camping and trying to find this part. It's frustrating with no major Rv dealer around to see if they can get the parts I hope I order the right part I need the right part to hock on the manifold then run the water line.

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Reply #16 – February 01, 2021, 06:37:45 pm

Quote from: oldguy – February 01, 2021, 06:31:40 pm

That white pipe needs PVC glue not ABS glue.

I'll go get some tomorrow I thought I had the right stuff maybe you'll have better luck with that

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Reply #17 – February 01, 2021, 06:42:26 pm

Pipe dope is better than Teflon tape. I usually use both.

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Reply #18 – February 01, 2021, 07:03:00 pm

Quote from: oldguy – February 01, 2021, 06:42:26 pm

Pipe dope is better than Teflon tape. I usually use both.

I have some pipe dope but I was think that might plug up something if it got in the water line I use that stuff on are gas Nozzle and pump hose on are pumps at the station I would think that it's the same stuff. I never did any plumbing before scared of damaging the treads on the water manifold then I'll have a bigger problems

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Reply #19 – February 01, 2021, 07:51:36 pm

Consider keeping a pex plug or two for issues.
I always use our direct fill but the OEM fill port washer started leaking so I plugged it with a pex plug.
All remodeled now.

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Reply #20 – February 01, 2021, 08:43:43 pm

Quote from: Cape Bretoner – February 01, 2021, 06:35:26 pm

Going to call Foretravel tomorrow I've never ordered from them before who is the best person to talk too about this I read on this forum that they should have all the information on this coach at hand...

When you call just ask for the parts desk. The parts guys are very good at their jobs. They might ask for your coach build number if they have to look stuff up. Hopefully they will have something in stock. Give them your Motorcade Club number to get a parts discount.

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Reply #21 – February 01, 2021, 09:21:39 pm

I had a freeze crack and had to replace the whole manifold. I would not use pipe dope or Teflon tape. The gasket is supposed to make the correct seal.

Be very careful not to strip the plastic threads on the manifold. I think it is very easy to do. The instructions say "hand tighten only" like you would with your water hose.

I am very, very careful because I have to remove mine to install my water heater bypass when winterizing.

Rich

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Reply #22 – February 01, 2021, 09:25:46 pm

Quote from: Bob & Sue – February 01, 2021, 07:51:36 pm

Consider keeping a pex plug or two for issues.
I always use our direct fill but the OEM fill port washer started leaking so I plugged it with a pex plug.
All remodeled now.

What did you remodeled it Too. did you put a new water manifold in or by pass it all together now would be the time while the coach it staying put this winter. i've been searching the Internet and the forum for a fix I crack the part last winter when I rebuild the bulkhead and I glued it it lasted a year I think I just need the proper Coupling so I can run a 1/2' line and crimp it in what I research so far I think there is only one type of coupling for this water Manifold or if I had two plugs I could remove the hot water tank bypass and Robb one of the reducer

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Reply #23 – February 01, 2021, 10:19:53 pm

Hi. We purchased the whole manifold for our previous coach which was a 1998 U270 but sold the coach before the part arrived. I will send you a photo of it tomorrow to see if it would work for you as we still have it new in the box and we are located about 45 minutes from Truro.

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Reply #24 – February 01, 2021, 10:38:39 pm

Quote from: Economy Travellers – February 01, 2021, 10:19:53 pm

Hi. We purchased the whole manifold for our previous coach which was a 1998 U270 but sold the coach before the part arrived. I will send you a photo of it tomorrow to see if it would work for you as we still have it new in the box and we are located about 45 minutes from Truro.

sound good email rick.cormier@icloud.com

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