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Block heater replacement Cummins C8.3 325 hp

After 22 years the factory block heater quit working. It knocked out the 20 amp circuit in the storage building and threw the breaker on the panel. The 110 electric supply line was severely damaged at the heater block. It was melted and removing it left it in pieces. Major corrosion at the two prongs on the block heater and meter indicated open circuit.

After looking at several YouTube videos of block heater replacement on Cummins 5.9, which is similar to the C8.3 block heater, I ordered a new block heater and cord from the local International dealer. Part numbers have not changed: cable, engine heater 3905113 and block heater 3918597. Once again, my local dealer had the parts in one day and the prices were better than I found online. There is an aftermarket heater at half price.

I drained the coolant at the radiator into a large Rubbermaid tub. Sprayed the bock heater with PB Blaster the day before. The heater goes into a freeze plug opening in the block driver's side below the exhaust manifold about mid-way down the engine. I accessed it from the rear engine cover opening standing on the cross member and leaning over into the compartment. The heater is held in place with a single hex bolt (3/16 allen wrench) that draws a backing plate attached to the heater and wedges the entire assembly it into the freeze plug opening. A mild spring holds the backing plate away from the heater so that you can swivel the heating element into the water passage and then draw it tight. The block is machined with a bevel and there is a rubber o ring pre-installed on the heater assembly. It took several tugs to get the hex bolt to start loosening but then turned easily. You don't want to fully remove the bolt because that would leave the backing plate inside the water passage. Used a pointed object to loosen the grunge around the heater assembly and then took a pair of vice grips to the EE plug housing and worked it loose, came right out. Assembly was the reverse, noting the original orientation of the block heater.

Refilled the radiator with the original Fleetguard  OAT coolant that was two years old leaving the last pint or so behind in the tub with a few flakes of junk. I also changed the coolant filter before refilling. Ran the engine for about 10 to 15 minutes with the coolant reservoir cap off and could see air being purged. Stopped running the engine when the bubbles disappeared. I anticipate adding some more coolant as I removed more than went into the engine.

This morning ran the heater for 3 hours in 28-degree weather. Fired up on the second revolution drove 20 miles to new campsite.
1998 36 foot U270 Build No. 5328 WTFE, 900 watts solar, Victron controller, B2B, bat monitor, 600 AMPH lithium with 2018 Chevy Colorado toad, SKP #110239, Motorcade #17781, 2021 Escape 17B for when Coach is broken down and campsites are too small, retired and full-timer since Dec. 2020. Part of RV family since 1963.

Re: Block heater replacement Cummins C8.3 325 hp

Reply #1
Excellent tutorial.  I have been carrying a brand new block heater in my spare parts drawer for a couple years...waiting on the next time I drain and replace my antifreeze.  I wish I'd thought to replace the block heater the last time I had the opportunity, but I missed my chance.  :headwall:

Note:  Our original block heater is still working, and we don't often have occasion to need it, hence my lack of urgency (AKA laziness).

I think every owner of 1990's era Foretravel coaches should absolutely make it a point to proactively replace this item at their next coolant swap. 
1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
"Nature abhors a vacuum"

Re: Block heater replacement Cummins C8.3 325 hp

Reply #2
I would suggest the addition of some type of heat resistant sleeve to the block heater power cord.  On the 8.3L Cummins the power cord passes close to the exhaust manifold and is also near the turbo.  The insulation on my original block heater cord exhibits considerable degradation from the combination of exhaust manifold heat and engine block heat.  I believe a heat insulating sleeve might help preserve the integrity of the power cord.  Example of this type product linked below:

Insultherm Ultraflex Pro Fiberglass Sleeving
1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
"Nature abhors a vacuum"

Re: Block heater replacement Cummins C8.3 325 hp

Reply #3
Chuck, Chuck, Chuck!! You must be politically correct these days.
It is NOT laziness! It is voluntary inertia that you suffer from. This is incredibly catching, so be very careful around chronically challenged adults.
Nitehawk,  Demolition Lady, & our NEW master, Zippy the speeding BB cat.
1989 Grand Villa 36' ORED
Oshkosh chassis, 8.2 DD V8
2006 Saturn Vue AWD

Re: Block heater replacement Cummins C8.3 325 hp

Reply #4
Chuck, we wrapped our block heater electric cord in several wraps of heavy duty aluminum foil to keep some of the exhaust manifold heat from damaging the electric cord.

Re: Block heater replacement Cummins C8.3 325 hp

Reply #5
Amazon.com: Design Engineering 010470 Fire Sleeve and Tape Kit Heat Protectio...
Scott
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Re: Block heater replacement Cummins C8.3 325 hp

Reply #6
Thanx Scott - that looks like a great product for protecting the power cord!  Much better than the one I linked.
1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
"Nature abhors a vacuum"

Re: Block heater replacement Cummins C8.3 325 hp

Reply #7
Been using fire sleeve for forty years with outstanding results. Used to have a red RTV ends but the RTV fusion tape is good stuff and real easy to use. 👍👍 you also can buy in longer rolls and much cheaper per foot. Have seen up to four inches in diameter for big applications
Scott

Re: Block heater replacement Cummins C8.3 325 hp

Reply #8
Quick update; New block heater is working great. Have already used it three times.
1998 36 foot U270 Build No. 5328 WTFE, 900 watts solar, Victron controller, B2B, bat monitor, 600 AMPH lithium with 2018 Chevy Colorado toad, SKP #110239, Motorcade #17781, 2021 Escape 17B for when Coach is broken down and campsites are too small, retired and full-timer since Dec. 2020. Part of RV family since 1963.