Re: Coach/suspension Damage From Torquing While Off-Roading Reply #250 – August 03, 2021, 12:13:42 am I still have no idea how our tire can touch the air bag plate in some attitudes but I can't duplicate it no matter how I try.Pierce Quote Selected
Re: Coach/suspension Damage From Torquing While Off-Roading Reply #251 – August 03, 2021, 10:11:42 am Quote from: dsd – August 02, 2021, 10:38:23 pmSo if you remove the entire unsprung assembly below were the bags mount nothing affects the distance from the tire to the bag mount because they are all bolted together as one assembly. With the drag links removed the bushings removed nothing changes. That assembly is centered in the well wells with the drag links and bushing, not the distance to the lower bag mounts. You literally need to unbolt the axle to change the clearance between the wheel and the bag mount. They are mounted rigidly together as a assembly ScottScott,You are correct. Still trying to figure out how this happened, but indeed, the lower air bag mount is attached rigidly to the "unsprung H member" Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: Coach/suspension Damage From Torquing While Off-Roading Reply #252 – August 03, 2021, 05:20:20 pm Quote from: Pierce & Gaylie Stewart – August 03, 2021, 12:13:42 amI still have no idea how our tire can touch the air bag plate in some attitudes but I can't duplicate it no matter how I try.PierceThat's because you're old enough to know better. From what I understand you have to start with your left front wheel on a high spot, and your right rear on a high spot with the other three wheels dangling in mid air. Quote Selected
Re: Coach/suspension Damage From Torquing While Off-Roading Reply #253 – August 03, 2021, 08:50:30 pm So last month when I was attempting to get my bubble pump to start I actually operated my coach full hard left lean and full hard right lean. No visual difference in tire to airbag mount and tire to fender well opening. Sorry never got a tire off the ground. I do believe the pictures yet can't understand how. I still would bet that we are looking at the symptoms not the problem? I genuinely enjoy setting up long travel suspensions and finding problems that most never address. One of the top three reasons I like our Foretravel is the out board air ride design. Extremely stableScott Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: Coach/suspension Damage From Torquing While Off-Roading Reply #254 – September 03, 2021, 08:56:00 pm She's home! Funny because before the accident she WAS our home.Despite some serious traffic and incline getting from Phoenix to Prescott, and the 110 degree heat in Wickenberg, it was an uneventful drive and she runs smooth as butter. I'll follow up later this weekend with the full bill of labor and my thoughts on the shop but tonight we're busy packing to take it to the Grand Canyon tomorrow Quote Selected 23 Likes
Re: Coach/suspension Damage From Torquing While Off-Roading Reply #255 – September 03, 2021, 10:00:45 pm Glad to see you are back On the road Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: Coach/suspension Damage From Torquing While Off-Roading Reply #256 – September 04, 2021, 08:19:21 am Quote from: Elliott – September 03, 2021, 08:56:00 pmI'll follow up later this weekend with the full bill of labor and my thoughts on the shop but tonight we're busy packing to take it to the Grand Canyon tomorrow Did you pack your wife's Tiara? I mean if you aren't treating your wife like a Queen you should be.Oh, yeah, You aren't planning on driving down any donkey trails, are you? Quote Selected
Re: Coach/suspension Damage From Torquing While Off-Roading Reply #257 – September 04, 2021, 10:58:04 am You deserve some fun time now. Enjoy.Pierce Quote Selected
Re: Coach/suspension Damage From Torquing While Off-Roading Reply #258 – September 07, 2021, 10:55:06 am Alright, here are the final bills for the repairs. You'll notice some additional work from Freightliner that I originally withheld until things were sorted out with insurance. By and large, I was happy with the shop and would recommend them to other Foretravel owners in the Phoenix area (they had two other Unicoaches too). The quality of work and thoroughness was great, the wait time and communication left some to be desired. As you can tell, they did a great job of making sure *everything* that could possibly have been impacted by the accident was inspected and repaired My out of pocket ended up being:$500 deductible $574.68 for four new bags (they let me buy my own and ship to them). Not needed but I knew they were coming due$530 to install the bags (insurance covered labor for one of them) [/list]They also washed the entire rig, clean my wheels and tires, and cleaned the inside for me, which was a nice touch. They had the rig aired up and cooled down inside for me when I picked it up too. I've put about 350 mile on it since picking it up last Thursday and all is well. Out of paranoia, I stopped periodically during the first couple days of driving just to make sure all tires were clearing the bags but they were always good to go.From a financial perspective, I came out ahead in this whole ordeal. From a well-being/stress perspective it was definitely a net loser. Thanks for talking me through it as it has evolved, it has once again been a show of just how valuable this forum is to the FT brand. Quote Selected 12 Likes
Re: Coach/suspension Damage From Torquing While Off-Roading Reply #259 – October 03, 2021, 10:34:51 am Quote from: dsd – April 11, 2021, 10:49:36 pmThree inches clearance at top on coach right center side. Biggest issue was approach angle at bottom both for front and rear of coach. No pitch issues at bottom just a lot of angle change. Had to have coach in raise position to clear front and rear. I would not recommend nor will I repeat, however we have a similar driveway in North Carolina at our daughters house and now don't think it will be doable for me since this weeks events have spooked me. Just as steep into a off camber busy two lane rural road in a turn. No way to drive straight up, have to enter diagonally. Ain't worth it.ScottSo we did attempt the North Carolina driveway. I have added a switchable ground for the HWH so as to be able to lock in manual adjust to stop control of the ride height system and operate with parking brake released. Entered driveway at ride height position and front raised to 90% high then transitioned threw to front 90% down and rear 90% up and then rolled to right to 100% available. Once we got out of transition turned ride height control back on without issue. Second half of the driveway will be leaving on Tuesday. Also chance of rain to add to the issues. Good fun. So far. Coached parked in driveway requires left front at full up and right rear down flat. But made a perfect level for coach Quote Selected 3 Likes
Re: Coach/suspension Damage From Torquing While Off-Roading Reply #260 – October 03, 2021, 10:52:03 am Quote from: dsd – October 03, 2021, 10:34:51 amSo we did attempt the North Carolina driveway. I have added a switchable ground for the HWH so as to be able to lock in manual adjust to stop control of the ride height system and operate with parking brake released. Entered driveway at ride height position and front raised to 90% high then transitioned threw to front 90% down and rear 90% up and then rolled to right to 100% available. Once we got out of transition turned ride height control back on without issue. Second half of the driveway will be leaving on Tuesday. Also chance of rain to add to the issues. Good fun. So far. Coached parked in driveway requires left front at full up and right rear down flat. But made a perfect level for coachWatch those windshield, your living in dangerous territory. Glad it worked for youChris Quote Selected 3 Likes
Re: Coach/suspension Damage From Torquing While Off-Roading Reply #261 – October 03, 2021, 10:54:24 am Quote from: dsd – October 03, 2021, 10:34:51 amCoached parked in driveway requires left front at full up and right rear down flat. But made a perfect level for coachWe've stayed in many RV parks where the terrain required similar contortions to achieve level parking. Makes you really appreciate the capability of the HWH leveling system. When we park in a spot with the nose of our coach raised to max height, other campers come by and stare in amazement. GVs especially look very impressive with the front end sticking up in the stratosphere. Quote Selected 2 Likes
Re: Coach/suspension Damage From Torquing While Off-Roading Reply #262 – October 03, 2021, 11:06:39 am Quote from: gracerace – October 03, 2021, 10:52:03 amWatch those windshield, your living in dangerous territory. Glad it worked for youChrisYes, but with the ride height deactivated Ive been aware not to mechanically excessively load the coach up against the stops. I know there is a fine line I'm walking. Scott Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: Coach/suspension Damage From Torquing While Off-Roading Reply #263 – October 03, 2021, 11:51:12 am Quote from: Chuck & Jeannie – October 03, 2021, 10:54:24 amWe've stayed in many RV parks where the terrain required similar contortions to achieve level parking. Makes you really appreciate the capability of the HWH leveling system. When we park in a spot with the nose of our coach raised to max height, other campers come by and stare in amazement. GVs especially look very impressive with the front end sticking up in the stratosphere. Cool, We go the other way, always dumped almost to the snubbers when possible. Makes it easier to get in and out, but mostly because it looks cool slammed like a bagged hot rod!CheersChris Quote Selected 5 Likes
Re: Coach/suspension Damage From Torquing While Off-Roading Reply #264 – October 03, 2021, 12:11:59 pm Quote from: gracerace – October 03, 2021, 11:51:12 amCool, We go the other way, always dumped almost to the snubbers when possible. Makes it easier to get in and out, but mostly because it looks cool slammed like a bagged hot rod!CheersChrisFunction over form. Dropped for arthritis in knees! Baby moons over the rear tires for aerodynamics, and because it looks like it belongs on the salt flats. Wonder if the would fit over the fronts?Twist & Lock Aero Wheel Covers, Polished Stainless for Dual Wheel Axles 4PK Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: Coach/suspension Damage From Torquing While Off-Roading Reply #265 – October 03, 2021, 12:12:37 pm Quote from: gracerace – October 03, 2021, 11:51:12 am...dumped almost to the snubbers when possible. Makes it easier to get in and out...Agreed.We have parked where achieving level required the curb side of the coach to be raised full up. When it's sitting like that and we step out of the coach, it's a LONG way down from the bottom step to terra firma. Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: Coach/suspension Damage From Torquing While Off-Roading Reply #266 – October 03, 2021, 12:15:32 pm Quote from: dsd – October 03, 2021, 12:11:59 pmFunction over form. Dropped for arthritis in knees! Baby moons over the rear tires for aerodynamics, and because it looks like it belongs on the salt flats. Wonder if the would fit over the fronts?"Twitchen".... Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: Coach/suspension Damage From Torquing While Off-Roading Reply #267 – October 03, 2021, 07:42:33 pm Aren't those full moons? Quote Selected 2 Likes
Re: Coach/suspension Damage From Torquing While Off-Roading Reply #268 – October 03, 2021, 11:34:42 pm Bring boards. Quote Selected