Re: Living room slide bladder DIY Reply #25 – November 13, 2021, 10:42:42 am Every time I have gone to HWH ot has been 3-4 week lead time for in-shop service. They are about 5 hrs from us and not far out of the way on our way to or returning from anywhere south of us. The air leak check is not free but usually is only about $50, a half hour. The will find any leaks in their equipment to fix and mark any leaks in anything else for you to fix. They drive the coach up an elevated ramp and can walk around underneath easily.Going to HWH is a good choice if it is one you can do. Prices are less, all the parts are there and the technicians are first class. Quote Selected 4 Likes
Re: Living room slide bladder DIY Reply #26 – November 13, 2021, 12:38:40 pm Quote from: jimgior13 – November 13, 2021, 08:19:33 amIAll they needed was the length and width of my slide and VIN numberExternal width and height of slide? Quote Selected
Re: Living room slide bladder DIY Reply #27 – November 13, 2021, 02:11:53 pm Quote from: cucotx – November 13, 2021, 12:38:40 pmExternal width and height of slide?I think your coach is a little more sophisticated than ours. I believe they have a part number for yours. Better quality control? But yes external width and HeightScott Quote Selected
Re: Living room slide bladder DIY Reply #28 – November 13, 2021, 03:46:10 pm If I recall correctly, I gave them the measurements of the opening as opposed to the room dimensions. I would call them to confirm as to what exactly they want. Quote Selected
Re: Living room slide bladder DIY Reply #29 – November 13, 2021, 04:28:04 pm Quote from: rbark – November 13, 2021, 03:46:10 pmIf I recall correctly, I gave them the measurements of the opening as opposed to the room dimensions. I would call them to confirm as to what exactly they want.Copied from my current email with themGood morning ScottI am going to need a little more information in order to figure out what air seal you need. I am going to need to know how high the room is and the length of the room. Now this is the measurement of the room not the hole the room is in. Once I have that I can tell you what air seal you will need and how much it will be. Thank youJoe Portelli On 10/28/2021 2:20 PM, Quote Selected 3 Likes
Re: Living room slide bladder DIY Reply #30 – November 13, 2021, 07:53:55 pm Well, looks like I didn't recall correctly, my bad. Old timers creeping in. Quote Selected
Re: Living room slide bladder DIY Reply #31 – November 13, 2021, 10:42:36 pm Quote from: dsd – November 11, 2021, 09:42:13 pmI understand that HWH will work on there products but nothing else. I certainly would give them a call or email. Big dog Jerry stated that they were much more robust and should last our life time and that they will stay in contact when deflated. And that they require more vacuum to retract fully. They initially told me I would need to replace my vacuum control with there new and improved. I had previously spoke to Rudy and others that have installed electric vacuum pumps. They wanted like $850 for there HWH pump setup. I told them I had already installed a electric vacuum pump system and wouldn't need theirs. I'll post more on that as I build it. Your side is much easier to replace than mine. You are able to disconnect and push your slide inward to expose bladder. My 2001 requires removal of the slide and during its removal I'll be addressing delamination repairs. ScottI had both seals replaced earlier this year, mot did the work, I replaced their vacuum blocks as they told me they would not have a warranty if I didn't. Plus I don't like things "rigged" if I don't have to. Neither make contact when deflated, there is a good 1/4"+ gap when deflated... they both work great.....Keith Quote Selected
Re: Living room slide bladder DIY Reply #32 – November 14, 2021, 11:25:13 am Quote from: hdff – November 13, 2021, 10:42:36 pmI had both seals replaced earlier this year, mot did the work, I replaced their vacuum blocks as they told me they would not have a warranty if I didn't. Plus I don't like things "rigged" if I don't have to. Neither make contact when deflated, there is a good 1/4"+ gap when deflated... they both work great.....KeithFortunately my seal is being installed with a lifetime replacement warranty supplied by the installer to the purchaser. No extra charge for it. And this was with the modified improved vacuum system with overpressure safety protection too. Only way to secure lifetime warranted. Keith what Pressure and inches of Vacuum does your system operate at? Three primary causes of failure are hi pressure failure, insufficient vacuum, and UV damage. Scott Quote Selected
Re: Living room slide bladder DIY Reply #33 – November 14, 2021, 07:50:30 pm Quote from: dsd – November 14, 2021, 11:25:13 amFortunately my seal is being installed with a lifetime replacement warranty supplied by the installer to the purchaser. No extra charge for it. And this was with the modified improved vacuum system with overpressure safety protection too. Only way to secure lifetime warranted. Keith what Pressure and inches of Vacuum does your system operate at? Three primary causes of failure are hi pressure failure, insufficient vacuum, and UV damage. ScottI don't know the pressures, I'll look tomorrow.. both of mine failed in what looked like a seam maybe due to uv damage. There was a line that looked dry rotted.Keith Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: Living room slide bladder DIY Reply #34 – January 28, 2022, 05:06:38 pm My credit card put a hold an a Suspicious charge for $1900 today. Come to find out HWH finally is shipping my bladder seal that I ordered November 11. Quote Selected 9 Likes
Re: Living room slide bladder DIY Reply #35 – January 28, 2022, 05:49:23 pm Wish I was there to give you a hand Scott! Looking forward to your progress and photos! Lot's of photos! Glad that HWH finally came through with your order! I remember when you called them. Good luck with this repair, however, I know if it can be done, you da man! Quote Selected 3 Likes
Re: Living room slide bladder DIY Reply #36 – February 01, 2022, 07:12:29 pm Well UPS notified me that seal will be delivered Wednesday. If anyone was paying attention when they got there seal replaced on a 2001 slide any input would be appreciated. I do have fork lift and stands and a overhead to attach to for safety straps.Scott Quote Selected 3 Likes
Re: Living room slide bladder DIY Reply #37 – February 01, 2022, 10:32:40 pm Once you get the new seal installed, seal around the outer edge of the seal to the fiberglass. Otherwise water can go under the seal and into the coach.Silicone probably not the best product to use, some else may recommend a better product. Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: Living room slide bladder DIY Reply #38 – February 02, 2022, 12:44:50 am Quote from: AC7880 – February 01, 2022, 10:32:40 pmOnce you get the new seal installed, seal around the outer edge of the seal to the fiberglass. Otherwise water can go under the seal and into the coach.Silicone probably not the best product to use, some else may recommend a better product.Depending on seal material I think I have several sealers that will work well for that. Still trying to figure out what stays or is removed on slide. Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: Living room slide bladder DIY Reply #39 – February 02, 2022, 06:42:00 pm Received seal. Took to shop and inflated enough (1 psi?)to remove the shipping folds in it. Figure letting it relax to normal shape is a good thing. Ordered 3m 94 primer for foam tape installation. Will receive Sunday. Way to windy to do anything outside anyway. Got dinette and couch loose and will be able to move out of the way once slide is opened. Sage keep close tabs on my progress. Opened up the top of both actuator boxes inside but unable to see any attachment till the slide is opened I'm hoping. Found more mud dauber nests. Also fearfully pulled some of the barrier tape off the out side. Its been on there for about a year now. Been stored out of the sun but still been a year. Was extremely pleased that 99% of the adhesive came off with tape and no discoloration to the jelcoat. At this point it was the best decision I could've made for weatherproofing the slide.Scott Quote Selected 5 Likes
Re: Living room slide bladder DIY Reply #40 – February 04, 2022, 05:05:40 pm Got coach positioned in front of shop so i could operate forklift on my concrete pad but couldnt pull forward enough , so backed out got the old backhoe and cleared some blow sand out of the way and cut back one of my creosote bushes. My pallet on the fork lift is 12 feet long and cut in down to under 4 feet deep. Covered with some old carpet got positioned and working at getting slide to extend. Ive never operated it with the HWH controls and its seems to be headstrong at resisting. Placing the slide control key to on the vacuum retracts bladder and after about 40 seconds the yellow light illuminates. Press extend button and nothing happens. Indicating about 9 inches of vacuum on old bladder. Pump never runs and locks still show engaged. Quote Selected
Re: Living room slide bladder DIY Reply #41 – February 04, 2022, 05:25:33 pm The 3A fuse led isn't lit...does that mean there's a fuse out? Is the coach level on the HWH pad? Quote Selected
Re: Living room slide bladder DIY Reply #42 – February 04, 2022, 05:29:48 pm Quote from: WS6_Keith – February 04, 2022, 05:25:33 pmThe 3A fuse led isn't lit...does that mean there's a fuse out? Is the coach level on the HWH pad?Don't know. Or location of this three amp fuse? It is in level and key on.Just had lunch and was going to open HWH box and check fuses. If I dont find any will try override position. Quote Selected
Re: Living room slide bladder DIY Reply #43 – February 04, 2022, 06:06:50 pm Inside HWH all the lock solenoids are not indicated powered up or showing that there powered up? Edit they do power up during operation Quote Selected
Re: Living room slide bladder DIY Reply #44 – February 04, 2022, 06:39:22 pm Found this tidbit:"IF the electronic box is double stacked there is another fuse behind it on the motherboard.. Blew a 3amp fuse o my slide board that was double stacked so I couldn't find the issue.. after a service truck came out he was walked to it by HWH."in this thread: Stuck in Colorado Springs with HWH problemsDo you have the coach manual/schematics? See if this one helps. There are 2 or 3 "3-amp" fuses mentioned: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiqkeamnOf1AhUzD0QIHWnNDcwQFnoECCAQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hwhcorp.com%2Fml26139.pdf&usg=AOvVaw2BnXX0Phyo6hrd_LoYw19S Quote Selected
Re: Living room slide bladder DIY Reply #45 – February 04, 2022, 08:32:09 pm Just a thought, How level is the coach? Quote Selected
Re: Living room slide bladder DIY Reply #46 – February 04, 2022, 09:12:04 pm Out Quote Selected 10 Likes
Re: Living room slide bladder DIY Reply #47 – February 04, 2022, 09:33:20 pm I see you have the pro helping...that's like cheating! Great to see you got it out. Did you get it to move? If so, what was it? Quote Selected 2 Likes
Re: Living room slide bladder DIY Reply #48 – February 04, 2022, 10:18:14 pm Ambitious! Quote Selected 2 Likes
Re: Living room slide bladder DIY Reply #49 – February 04, 2022, 10:23:58 pm Quote from: WS6_Keith – February 04, 2022, 09:33:20 pmI see you have the pro helping...that's like cheating! Great to see you got it out. Did you get it to move? If so, what was it?Yes I was four minutes from calling him when he pulled in the drive way. Never did find the fuse but isolated to the power supplied to the pump solenoid. Tomorrow is another day to hunt for it. Jim operated it and I hot wired the pump motor and it unlocked lock pins and once pulled drove slide out. Coach level , ignition on. The failing bladder would actually inflate and deflate and enable the vacuum interlock system. Not a big hole but once we got the slide out upon further investigation the bladder would tear with little effort. New and improved design should deliver another twenty years of service. Will need to resolve power problem but for now have enough work to keep me busy. Also figured out how to raise back of slide .050 by changing shims on actuator. All I lack is finishing. Long day. Thank you Jim (Fourdayoff) for helping me out again.Scott Quote Selected 7 Likes
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