Oil pan plug

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Oil pan plug

August 12, 2021, 10:13:12 pm

For those of you who haven't installed an old pan plug drain system Yet don't do like I did. I said I get it next time a couple of times and finally bought the no spill oil plug to install my next oil change.. I do my own all changes and crawled up under the couch last week to change the oil, all went well until l tried to install the new oil drain plug. it never tightened up, the threads were stripped. So now I'm sitting in storage with no way to put oil in it to take it and get it fixed. My talked with mechanic and he gave me advice on a temp fix so I could get it to him and get it fixed. three days later I have a Cummins repair sleeve installed and the new no spill system in so I will never have to remove the plug again. I don't know what I would have done if I had been at one of those oil change places. Don't put it off, it's not if but when will it happen to you...

Keith

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Reply #1 – August 13, 2021, 10:05:11 am

Keith has a quick drain like the one I installed. It does stick down a ways and could be knocked off by a road gator. No spill flush quick drains are available here: https://www.nospillsystems.com/uploads/documents/No-Spill%20Systems%202021-2%20Catalog.pdf

Part listed for M11 Cummins on attachment below.

Detroit owners have steel pans so no worries.

Pierce

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Reply #2 – August 13, 2021, 10:18:08 pm

Keith, glad you were able to get it fixed. I want to do it, but honestly, it scares the heck out of me hanging that low. I have looked at the low profile model, but even that one makes me uncomfortable.
Maybe it's the Off Road Racing that I do (anything that can get knocked off will get knocked off) but I am afraid to do it.

Has anyone had a bad experience with one of the drain plug systems?

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Reply #3 – August 14, 2021, 09:41:13 pm

Quote from: MarkC – August 13, 2021, 10:18:08 pm

Keith, glad you were able to get it fixed. I want to do it, but honestly, it scares the heck out of me hanging that low. I have looked at the low profile model, but even that one makes me uncomfortable.
Maybe it's the Off Road Racing that I do (anything that can get knocked off will get knocked off) but I am afraid to do it.

Has anyone had a bad experience with one of the drain plug systems?

I probably should've got the compact one, supposedly it's not much longer than your stock plug and I may change out to the other somewhere down the road. Transmission hangs lower than this plug so I'm hoping that if anything does get back there the transmission hit it and miss the drain plug. Probably won't be my luck but that's what I'm hoping.

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Reply #4 – August 14, 2021, 10:40:59 pm

NoSpill brand, Compact model is VERY low, nothing hangs down.

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Reply #5 – August 14, 2021, 11:07:50 pm

I purchased a "compact" version of the no-spill plug for my Cummins oil pan but have yet to install it. I have the M11 (thus my desire to get it installed before the aluminum threads cause an issue). To those that have installed a no-spill (or similar plug), did you use, Loctite Threadlocker Blue 242 or equivalent? If not, how did you install?

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Reply #6 – August 14, 2021, 11:09:14 pm

I installed with Loctite red.

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Reply #7 – August 15, 2021, 09:54:02 am

I only change oil every 2 years so I will stay with the factory plug. Anyone know what the torque value is on it?

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Reply #8 – August 15, 2021, 10:07:09 am

On the 8.3 I believe you have a steel pan so you won't have the problem with a
stripped oil pan. It's the aluminum pans that are the problem.

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Reply #9 – August 15, 2021, 10:10:17 am

Quote from: hdff – August 14, 2021, 09:41:13 pm

Transmission hangs lower than this plug so I'm hoping that if anything does get back there the transmission hit it and miss the drain plug.

The closer to the rear axle, the lower something can be without dragging. The further back the more danger of hitting at the same angle on dips.

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Reply #10 – August 15, 2021, 10:21:13 am

Isn't that where "triggergometry" comes into play?

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Reply #11 – August 15, 2021, 10:46:04 am

Quote from: nitehawk – August 15, 2021, 10:21:13 am

Isn't that where "triggergometry" comes into play?

YUP, got the sine.

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Reply #12 – August 26, 2021, 09:29:02 pm

wrung

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Reply #13 – August 27, 2021, 01:21:06 am

Ism oil change
I agree hangs low hopefully would deflect a tire carcass
Scott

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Reply #14 – August 27, 2021, 11:02:28 am

You've got it Toyota!

P

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Reply #15 – August 27, 2021, 02:21:58 pm

Nice piece Scott, following your lead, I am drawing up something now to install on mine before I install the drain.
Thanks for the motivation !

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Reply #16 – August 27, 2021, 03:33:12 pm

Quote from: MarkC – August 27, 2021, 02:21:58 pm

Nice piece Scott, following your lead, I am drawing up something now to install on mine before I install the drain.
Thanks for the motivation !

20-20 hindsight I would of gone to the more flush drain. It's not a skid plate more of a tire carcass deflector. They can weigh a lot so I don't know how much it will help, but if it works I am assured to never drive over a freshly liberated carcass. Hit one with my Honda delso in air and damaged a bunch of stuff, that being said also hit a jackrabbit with the same car and did similar damage but was driving much faster
Scott

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Reply #17 – September 12, 2021, 06:55:32 pm

Quote from: dsd – August 27, 2021, 03:33:12 pm

20-20 hindsight I would of gone to the more flush drain. It's not a skid plate more of a tire carcass deflector. They can weigh a lot so I don't know how much it will help, but if it works I am assured to never drive over a freshly liberated carcass. Hit one with my Honda delso in air and damaged a bunch of stuff, that being said also hit a jackrabbit with the same car and did similar damage but was driving much faster
Scott

Did you have to get longer bolts? Did anything leak when you removed the bolts? If you decide to market these I might be interested to help protect my no spill system plug. My 20-20 hindsight makes me wish I would have got the compact plug instead of the regular one...

Keith

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Reply #18 – September 12, 2021, 08:34:08 pm

Wow, learn something about our 1989 GV every day!!
Never realized that all the rear diesel engine coaches didn't have a double 1-1/2" diameter tube guard under the engine and two super heavy duty 6" diameter caster wheels just forward of the rear bumper and well secured to the frame.
Our coach does have these safety features, Why not yours??

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Reply #19 – September 12, 2021, 10:16:05 pm

Kieth I removed the lower plate. It is a dry compartment accessing the flywheel. Used a double plated mounting taps and V them narrow at the front to prevent it from pushing over to one side. Used same bolts. There is a paper gasket and I reused it. Allowed access to the drain plug to check for oil leaks I believe. Casting is very robust. It's more of a deflector than a skid plate. Hard to make a skid plate for 20k lbs vehicle.
Scott

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Reply #20 – September 12, 2021, 10:24:58 pm

Quote from: nitehawk – September 12, 2021, 08:34:08 pm

Wow, learn something about our 1989 GV every day!!
Never realized that all the rear diesel engine coaches didn't have a double 1-1/2" diameter tube guard under the engine and two super heavy duty 6" diameter caster wheels just forward of the rear bumper and well secured to the frame.
Our coach does have these safety features, Why not yours??

During the first part of the quest for the coach I did a prepurchase inspection on a 36' Alpine. It had rollers such as you mentioned. Also had the rear cap pushed up a inch and the warps in the fiberglass roof cap too. So far I haven't needed the wheelie bars yet. I did drag the tailpipe on our first trip with no raise feature available but have that resolved now. So no I don't have those features.

Scott

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Reply #21 – September 13, 2021, 02:03:07 pm

Quote from: dsd – August 27, 2021, 01:21:06 am

Ism oil change
I agree hangs low hopefully would deflect a tire carcass
Scott

Top Notch idea and work Scott!!

I have totaled 4 cars in 35 years of commuting to my job, 3 deer, 1 rotweiler.

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Reply #22 – September 13, 2021, 02:44:26 pm

Heard said here in Wisconsin: It doesn't pay to hunt deer with a 4,000# bullet.

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Reply #23 – September 13, 2021, 08:19:25 pm

Quote from: hdff – August 12, 2021, 10:13:12 pm

For those of you who haven't installed an old pan plug drain system Yet don't do like I did. I said I get it next time a couple of times and finally bought the no spill oil plug to install my next oil change.. I do my own all changes and crawled up under the couch last week to change the oil, all went well until l tried to install the new oil drain plug. it never tightened up, the threads were stripped. So now I'm sitting in storage with no way to put oil in it to take it and get it fixed. My talked with mechanic and he gave me advice on a temp fix so I could get it to him and get it fixed. three days later I have a Cummins repair sleeve installed and the new no spill system in so I will never have to remove the plug again. I don't know what I would have done if I had been at one of those oil change places. Don't put it off, it's not if but when will it happen to you...

Keith

Doesn't look like they have one for a CAT 3116. 😔

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Reply #24 – September 13, 2021, 08:58:39 pm

Quote from: Brettforfreedom – September 13, 2021, 08:19:25 pm

Doesn't look like they have one for a CAT 3116. 😔

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CD M18x1.5mm LB T10

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Mike

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