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Hook/pull and lift points

A few weeks ago I had a blow out on the front and when the service guy showed up, he had some questionable suggestions for lifting points.  Under the generator was not a spot I was comfortable with him using.  He ended up lifting it from the link arm mounts until he could get it up enough to put a jack stand under the axle, the moved to the axle itself.  Does the collective knowledge base here have suggested lift points (front and rear) as to what to use and what NOT to use?

Secondly, some friends are looking to go camping at a lake not too far up the road.  This lake has limited gravel campgrounds, which is the only area I'd be comfortable camping, but it got me thinking.  This particular lake has had a lot of stuck recoveries in the past, to the point where they keep a bulldozer on standby.  Not that I have any plans to go offroad, but after watching a few of the recovery videos, I'm also interested to know what points are viable to use to pull a FT.

Here's a few of the videos I was watching that made me cringe a little and wonder where to hook on my coach if I ever had to.

http://youtu.be/o8lj641mO0M

http://youtu.be/8R2ihKKAMX0?t=545
Keith
2003 U320 38' #6197

Re: Hook/pull and lift points

Reply #1 –
I wouldn't consider a place that keeps a dozier on stand by.. Kind of asking for trouble IMO Keith.
Dub McBride 1996 270

Re: Hook/pull and lift points

Reply #2 –
On a GV, use one of the steel receivers behind the removable panels low on the front. Only use one, not both as using any kind of chain, rope or cable on both will pull them towards each other. A tow was attempted on a Crown fire truck with the two chrome rings in the front. It pulled them toward each other until it did about $1000 of damage to the body.

I'm in the process of making an attachment to lift the I-beam front axle if one of the wheels is down on the ground because of a flat tire. Will post when I'm sure it will work without any danger.

Pierce
Pierce and Gaylie Stewart
'93 U300/36 WTBI
Detroit 6V-92TA Jake
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Re: Hook/pull and lift points

Reply #4 –
Quote from: Dub –
I wouldn't consider a place that keeps a dozier on stand by.. Kind of asking for trouble IMO Keith.
This is Sand Hollow State Park and lake outside of Hurricane, UT.  Lots of people park on the sand...I would NOT.  But it's just what got me thinking.
Keith
2003 U320 38' #6197

Re: Hook/pull and lift points

Reply #5 –
Never had a coach that was for off road use- aka- never got stuck

Re: Hook/pull and lift points

Reply #6 –
Quote from: erniee –
Never had a coach that was for off road use- aka- never got stuck
I got stuck in my own driveway.

The recipe: one drive wheel on or in something, that has no traction, and an open differential.
I am considering a locking differential.

Tim
Tim Dianics
Pam Sapienza
Vader PupZilla Labrador Canine Beast (AKA Pup)
Columbia, MO
1996 U320 4000
2021 Jeep Gladiator, Diesel

Re: Hook/pull and lift points

Reply #7 –
Quote from: erniee –
Never had a coach that was for off road use- aka- never got stuck
Never got stuck either.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
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Re: Hook/pull and lift points

Reply #8 –
Quote from: TGordon –
I got stuck in my own driveway.

The recipe: one drive wheel on or in something, that has no traction, and an open differential.
I am considering a locking differential.

Tim
Newer coaches have traction control and use the abs system to apply brakes to spinning wheel. Couple of valves and a computer to read abs information. Problem with the locking diff is they will put you in the ditch is slick conditions. Traction control is available on newer coaches. I did a little looking into it and will come up with a system in the future. New coaches also have factory tow points incorporated in the front of the coaches. Your FIL can show you were they go and you could follow his lead as I will and drill several one inch holes in the end of the frame rails to install a tow eye/clevis . Will have to have generator door opened or possibly even removed to prevent damage. Will also do the same in the rear. Mine will only ever get used as a winch anchor for some one else to get towed out. I would not be a happy camper being stuck in the damp grass next to the house.
Scott

Re: Hook/pull and lift points

Reply #9 –
Quote from: dsd –
Problem with the locking diff is they will put you in the ditch is slick conditions.
Scott
The two wheel spin and slide; from the frying pan into the fire.....
I am hopeful the OEM made a manually controlled locker....

Tim
Tim Dianics
Pam Sapienza
Vader PupZilla Labrador Canine Beast (AKA Pup)
Columbia, MO
1996 U320 4000
2021 Jeep Gladiator, Diesel

Re: Hook/pull and lift points

Reply #10 –
Quote from: TGordon –
The two wheel spin and slide; from the frying pan into the fire.....
I am hopeful the OEM made a manually controlled locker....

Tim
Yes a air locker or electric locker would be outstanding. Didn't find when I was looking till I found out how they were doing traction control. I suspect traction control would be more reasonable than a locking diff
Scott