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Salesman switch

What power sources does the salesman switch control? The one in question is if the salesman's switch turns off all power to the 2 AC rooftop units
Peter    Alberta Canada
'98 U320 40'  Build 5359 M11 450 HP, Aqua hot, Blu Ox

Re: Salesman switch

Reply #1 –
The switch cuts 12v power.  The AC units have 12V for the controls and 120V to power the units, without 12 volts the units will not work.  I know the switch does not cut power to the  refrigerator.
2014 ih45  (4th Foretravel owned)
 1997 36' U295 Sold in 2020, owned for 19 years
  U240 36' Sold to insurance company after melting in garage fire
    33' Foretravel on Dodge Chassis  Sold very long time ago

Re: Salesman switch

Reply #2 –
Quote from: dicksop –
What power sources does the salesman switch control?
You need to look at your B-2126 Automotive Wiring Diagram.  Find the "Manual Coach Batt Disconnect Switch" on the diagram.  Trace the "load" wires to see what loses power when the switch is opened (turned off).

On the B-2126 linked below, for example, you can see which circuit breakers on the left side of the page are powered through the salesman switch.  Additionly, the "12 Volt Coach Interior Fuse Panel" also receives power through the salesman switch.

Note: The B-2126 below may not be correct for your coach.  Check the copy in your owner's manual to be sure.

https://www.foreforums.com/index.php?action=media;sa=media;in=3297

1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
"Nature abhors a vacuum"

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Reply #3 –
Blow Chuck's B-2126 above up to blueprint size so you can easily read it. Keep a working copy and one to view with clean hands.

Pierce
Pierce and Gaylie Stewart
'93 U300/36 WTBI
Detroit 6V-92TA Jake
1140 watts on the roof
SBFD (ret)

Re: Salesman switch

Reply #4 –
Blow a copy and have it laminated at Office Depot. Only cost a few bucks and then can wipe it off.
Ken & Peggy
91 GV  U300 40'
DD 6v92
Build #3819
2023 Canyon Denali 4x4 crew cab

Re: Salesman switch

Reply #5 –
Great idea for the lamination. Then roll and store in a mailing tube. I keep ours in one of the overheads. No need to fold!

Pierce
Pierce and Gaylie Stewart
'93 U300/36 WTBI
Detroit 6V-92TA Jake
1140 watts on the roof
SBFD (ret)

Re: Salesman switch

Reply #6 –
Right after I bought my coach I order a set of drawings for the computer. I have sent
a few out when someone needed a drawing. It's easy to enlarge them. The best drawing
I had was when I had the Monaco. I could see everything. It worked like Google Map.
I was hoping when I order these they would be like that.
Peter and Frieda Morin
1999 36ft. U320 Foretravel
Build # 5436
1998 Suzuki Sidekick Sport

Re: Salesman switch

Reply #7 –
In my coach basement heat is still functional when salesman switch is off. At least if you are plugged in and electric heat is enabled.
2006 Nimbus 336 with hydro Hot.
2006 Nimbus 336
Built 2005 may be one of the first coaches labeled Nimbus.
DEMCO Air-force One braking system.
Towing 2002 Jeep Wrangler Sport.
Road Master Falcon 5250 tow bar.

Re: Salesman switch

Reply #8 –
Quote from: dicksop –
What power sources does the salesman switch control? The one in question is if the salesman's switch turns off all power to the 2 AC rooftop units
Ummmm Turn the switch to off and turn the air conditioners to on?
1992 Foretravel Grand Villa
U225 SBID Build No. 4134
1986 Rockwood Driftwood
1968 S.I.A.T.A. Spring
1962 Studebaker Lark
1986 Honda VF700C
1983 Honda VF750C
Charlie, the Dog was broken out of jail 24 Oct 2023
N1RPN
AA1OH (H)e who must be obeyed.

Re: Salesman switch

Reply #9 –
Quote from: Old Toolmaker –
Ummmm Turn the switch to off and turn the air conditioners to on?
Too simple.  We need to establish a Forum Technical Advisory Panel (F-TAP) and, after vigorous analysis and investigation, issue a Formal O-pinion on this matter.  8)

1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
"Nature abhors a vacuum"

Re: Salesman switch

Reply #10 –
On our 2002 U295 when you switch OFF the salesman switch the items on the left of the breaker bar remain powered up. Cover in storage Bay.
Jim and Dona
2002 U295 36'
Lily, blue healer. Our fury person
Manx mid travel Ecotec turbo
2022 Bronco badlands Sasquatch
Trail 90 and 110cc

Re: Salesman switch

Reply #11 –
Quote from: fourdayoff –
On our 2002 U295 when you switch OFF the salesman switch the items on the left of the breaker bar remain powered up. Cover in storage Bay.
Jim,

Thanks for this information, I never knew about that sub-panel.  I will have to check this out on my coach.  However, in the fourteen years I have owned my Foretravel, I have never had occasion to intentionally turn the salesman switch off. 

Richard
Jan & Richard Witt
1999 U-320  36ft WTFE
Build Number: 5478 Motorcade: 16599
2011 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited w/Air Force One
Jan: NO5U, Richard:KA5RIW
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Re: Salesman switch

Reply #12 –
Richard, I use this switch all the time. There is a substantial amp draw all the time, if I forget to turn something off as I never do  :o this switch allows me to get away with it for awhile. Hence salesman switch. When you take your car to a body shop more times than not you'll be replacing your battery. Jim.     
Jim and Dona
2002 U295 36'
Lily, blue healer. Our fury person
Manx mid travel Ecotec turbo
2022 Bronco badlands Sasquatch
Trail 90 and 110cc